3D mark crash

I have just purchased 3D mark 2003 and was running it on my game system to
see how it came out.
My system;
AMD XP2600+
1.5gig PC3200 DDR
2 * 120 HDD
1 DVD Rom
1 DVD RW
1 CD R/W
1 ATI radeon 9800 128 pro
1 network card
1 ISDN card
1 Raid card
1 * 550w PSU
+3.3v 30A
+5v 40A
+12v 20A
-5v 1.0A
-12v 1.0A
+5v(sb) 3.0A

3D mark ran all the way through and was on the last test when my PC shut
down and would not restart. Had to reset system from motherboard jumper and
input all bios settings again.
Would this signal a problem with the power supply, or indicate it is not
strong enough?

Thanks

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Victoria Concordia Crescit

"KerplunKuK" <> wrote in message
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> I have just purchased 3D mark 2003 and was running it on my game system to
> see how it came out.
> My system;
> AMD XP2600+
> 1.5gig PC3200 DDR
> 2 * 120 HDD
> 1 DVD Rom
> 1 DVD RW
> 1 CD R/W
> 1 ATI radeon 9800 128 pro
> 1 network card
> 1 ISDN card
> 1 Raid card
> 1 * 550w PSU
> +3.3v 30A
> +5v 40A
> +12v 20A
> -5v 1.0A
> -12v 1.0A
> +5v(sb) 3.0A
>
> 3D mark ran all the way through and was on the last test when my PC shut
> down and would not restart. Had to reset system from motherboard jumper
and
> input all bios settings again.
> Would this signal a problem with the power supply, or indicate it is not
> strong enough?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Victoria Concordia Crescit
>
>

Using supplied drivers by ATI

If your psu is from Q-TEC, you're in trouble. I think your's IS a q-tec, the
little gold bastard. Your 12V rail is too weak. My Enermax 350W has about
25W on 12V rail.

Other than that, use ATI catalyst 3.10 or newer. Try to connect the
radeon9800 on a seperate power-rail, meaning no cd-rom or hdd connected to
same cable.

See if that help. It should


"KerplunKuK" <> wrote in message
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> I have just purchased 3D mark 2003 and was running it on my game system to
> see how it came out.
> My system;
> AMD XP2600+
> 1.5gig PC3200 DDR
> 2 * 120 HDD
> 1 DVD Rom
> 1 DVD RW
> 1 CD R/W
> 1 ATI radeon 9800 128 pro
> 1 network card
> 1 ISDN card
> 1 Raid card
> 1 * 550w PSU
> +3.3v 30A
> +5v 40A
> +12v 20A
> -5v 1.0A
> -12v 1.0A
> +5v(sb) 3.0A
>
> 3D mark ran all the way through and was on the last test when my PC shut
> down and would not restart. Had to reset system from motherboard jumper
and
> input all bios settings again.
> Would this signal a problem with the power supply, or indicate it is not
> strong enough?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Victoria Concordia Crescit
>
>

"Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t . n o> wrote in message
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> If your psu is from Q-TEC, you're in trouble. I think your's IS a q-tec,
the
> little gold bastard. Your 12V rail is too weak. My Enermax 350W has about
> 25W on 12V rail.
>
> Other than that, use ATI catalyst 3.10 or newer. Try to connect the
> radeon9800 on a seperate power-rail, meaning no cd-rom or hdd connected to
> same cable.
>
> See if that help. It should


It is a gold Q Tec. Nothing is powered on the same rail. I will try the
drivers you mention. Any suggestions on a new psu then? I had a look
around, but I can't really afford £50 for a psu.

"KerplunKuK" <> wrote in message
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> It is a gold Q Tec. Nothing is powered on the same rail. I will try the
> drivers you mention. Any suggestions on a new psu then? I had a look
> around, but I can't really afford £50 for a psu.
>

Good psu cost quite a bit. However, it is well worth it. Now depending on
where you live, you can get many good brand psu at good price.
Antec, Enermax, Aopen are all good ones. And 350-400W of good brand psu is
better than a cheap 550 W psu.
Believe me, i had one of them 350W q.tec psu. Upgraded to Enermax 350W
(could not afford 400W) and difference was huge.

"KerplunKuK" wrote
> 3D mark ran all the way through and was on the last test when my PC shut
> down and would not restart. Had to reset system from motherboard jumper
and
> input all bios settings again.
> Would this signal a problem with the power supply, or indicate it is not
> strong enough?


Hi,
does it do this only on 3DMark? or can you play games normally?. As
suggested by others it may be your PSU, or possibly your memory is screwy or
not set properly?
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Wayne ][

"Wayne Youngman" <> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> does it do this only on 3DMark? or can you play games normally?. As
> suggested by others it may be your PSU, or possibly your memory is screwy
or
> not set properly?
> --
> Wayne ][
>
>

I have not overclocked it, its running on basic ATI drivers. My memory is
fine, I have tested it and its ok. Its only 3D mark so far, that's why I
guessed it was a power issue as that I assume stretches my system
requirements. It is not overheating as it has two extra fans providing
cooling for it. My internal case temp is 34C. It is on its own power cable
from the power supply.
--
Victoria Concordia Crescit

Asestar wrote:
> If your psu is from Q-TEC, you're in trouble. I think your's IS a q-tec,
> the little gold bastard. Your 12V rail is too weak. My Enermax 350W has
> about 25W on 12V rail.

I have a Q-Tec 550W Dual Fan Gold, and its fine.

The 12V rail is pretty much rock solid (at 12.5V), as are the other rails.

I'm using a Barton 2500+ and a 9800Pro, with 2 Opticals and 2 Hard drives, 2
sticks fo 512MB Corsair. System is rock solid.

Ben
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Dear Ben.
I guess you're lucky to have stable system so far. But let me in you a
secret, 12.5V on a 12V rail is NOT safe. It has btw nothing to do with how
many watts it have.
Q-Tec's 550W = 365-400W of good make.

Q-TEC have a long history of lying about wattage of their psu's.
When others like Enermax, antec etc say 365W, they mean 365 watt of
continous power output.

When Q-Tec label their psu 550W, it means 550 watt is the peak voltage that
psu *might* deliever for *unspecified* amount of time (could be an hour, a
second, who knows). Remember you get what you pay for.

However, considering your hardware, power requirement is about 300-350W,
which your Q-TEC 550W might handel well. But never ever make mistake of
using this psu where acutally 400-450Watt of power is needed, it SHALL fail
there.

Besides, they make a hell of noise, and there is no switch on psu. You have
to pull the plug to turn it off in emergency.



"Ben Pope" <> wrote in message
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> Asestar wrote:
> > If your psu is from Q-TEC, you're in trouble. I think your's IS a q-tec,
> > the little gold bastard. Your 12V rail is too weak. My Enermax 350W has
> > about 25W on 12V rail.
>
> I have a Q-Tec 550W Dual Fan Gold, and its fine.
>
> The 12V rail is pretty much rock solid (at 12.5V), as are the other rails.
>
> I'm using a Barton 2500+ and a 9800Pro, with 2 Opticals and 2 Hard drives,
2
> sticks fo 512MB Corsair. System is rock solid.
>
> Ben
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On Sat, 01 May 2004 20:15:56 GMT, "Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t
.. n o> wrote:

Fitted loads of Q-TEC 13025's , never a problem with ATi 98's prior to
that I used cheap **** Kobian 400's

ere: http://www.qtec.info/products/product.htm?artnr=13025

Regards, BoroLad


>Dear Ben.
>I guess you're lucky to have stable system so far. But let me in you a
>secret, 12.5V on a 12V rail is NOT safe. It has btw nothing to do with how
>many watts it have.
>Q-Tec's 550W = 365-400W of good make.

>Q-TEC have a long history of lying about wattage of their psu's.
>When others like Enermax, antec etc say 365W, they mean 365 watt of
>continous power output.

>When Q-Tec label their psu 550W, it means 550 watt is the peak voltage that
>psu *might* deliever for *unspecified* amount of time (could be an hour, a
>second, who knows). Remember you get what you pay for.

>However, considering your hardware, power requirement is about 300-350W,
>which your Q-TEC 550W might handel well. But never ever make mistake of
>using this psu where acutally 400-450Watt of power is needed, it SHALL fail
>there.

>Besides, they make a hell of noise, and there is no switch on psu. You have
>to pull the plug to turn it off in emergency.

>"Ben Pope" <> wrote in message
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>> Asestar wrote:
>> > If your psu is from Q-TEC, you're in trouble. I think your's IS a q-tec,
>> > the little gold bastard. Your 12V rail is too weak. My Enermax 350W has
>> > about 25W on 12V rail.

>> I have a Q-Tec 550W Dual Fan Gold, and its fine.

>> The 12V rail is pretty much rock solid (at 12.5V), as are the other rails.

>> I'm using a Barton 2500+ and a 9800Pro, with 2 Opticals and 2 Hard drives,
>2
>> sticks fo 512MB Corsair. System is rock solid.

>> Ben
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