A8N SLI Deluxe incompatible with Windows 98SE?

I am turfing my P4 machine so I'd like to install Win 98 SE on my 3500+
\A8N SLI Deluxe for when i get the urge to play old Dos games with a tri
boot.

Problem is that the Win 98 installer just hangs part way thru detecting
hardware. I can't get past this, does this board not support Win 98?

"Jesys" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I am turfing my P4 machine so I'd like to install Win 98 SE on my 3500+
> \A8N SLI Deluxe for when i get the urge to play old Dos games with a tri
> boot.
>
> Problem is that the Win 98 installer just hangs part way thru detecting
> hardware. I can't get past this, does this board not support Win 98?
Win 98, or 98SE?
How long are you letting it sit?.
There is a point in the IDE detection, that can commonly take ten+ minutes
to pass on fast motherboards (it has to wait for a timeout to occur).
However 98SE, usually works. 98, has a problem present with the IDE
driver, that can cause a complete hang on faster machines. There is a
replacement IDE driver available, which fixes several issues with the IDE
driver, but finding it nowadays, may be hard. Getting hold of a copy of
98SE, is probably easier.

Best Wishes

"Roger Hamlett" <> a écrit dans le
message de news: AJrvf.59600$...
>
> "Jesys" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>I am turfing my P4 machine so I'd like to install Win 98 SE on my 3500+
>> \A8N SLI Deluxe for when i get the urge to play old Dos games with a tri
>> boot.
>>
>> Problem is that the Win 98 installer just hangs part way thru detecting
>> hardware. I can't get past this, does this board not support Win 98?
> Win 98, or 98SE?
> How long are you letting it sit?.



> There is a point in the IDE detection, that can commonly take ten+ minutes
> to pass on fast motherboards (it has to wait for a timeout to occur).

It can take up to one hour for all peripherals to be detected on my board :
A8N-E. Thought it would never install, but after a few abort, I tried once
more and decided to tough it out. Works beautifully. But still
there seems to be a problem with that board.

"Jesys" <> wrote in message
news:...
> In article <cawvf.44652$>,
> says...
>>
>> "Roger Hamlett" <> a écrit dans le
>> message de news: AJrvf.59600$...
>> >
>> > "Jesys" <> wrote in message
>> > news:...
>> >>I am turfing my P4 machine so I'd like to install Win 98 SE on my
>> >>3500+
>> >> \A8N SLI Deluxe for when i get the urge to play old Dos games with a
>> >> tri
>> >> boot.
>> >>
>> >> Problem is that the Win 98 installer just hangs part way thru
>> >> detecting
>> >> hardware. I can't get past this, does this board not support Win 98?
>> > Win 98, or 98SE?
>> > How long are you letting it sit?.
>>
>>
>>
>> > There is a point in the IDE detection, that can commonly take ten+
>> > minutes
>> > to pass on fast motherboards (it has to wait for a timeout to occur).
>>
>> It can take up to one hour for all peripherals to be detected on my
>> board :
>> A8N-E. Thought it would never install, but after a few abort, I tried
>> once
>> more and decided to tough it out. Works beautifully. But still
>> there seems to be a problem with that board.
>>
>>
>>
> I am trying 98SE. What happens is that a black bar with white squares
> which creates a checkerboard pattern appears thru the screen and the
> machine is hung. Either that or when the installer reboots and the Win
> 98 splash screen appears, the moving bar on the bottom of the graphic
> freezes. It is not like the machine is just detecting hardware.
>
> I found my copy of Win Me and it is the same thing.
> Maybe I'll try it again but it really seems like it is hung.
> Oh, and I set all BIOS settings to default, no OC'ing but that did not
> make any difference. I am using the SI3114 for Raid 0 BTW with a pair of
> 74 Gb Raptors. I have a Chaintech 6600 GT video card and SB Audigy 1 on
> the board, that's it.
>
> Funny thing is that my previous 64 bit mobo, the Abit K8V Max (I think
> that was the model number) would install 98SE with some hardware
> conflicts and when I did Win Updates, it just went insane.
> It seems to me like 64 bit hardware does not care for OS's B4 Win 2000.
I have a 64 bit machine triple booting XP, Linux 64, and W98, on another
board, so that is not the problem. However the biggest differences, are on
this machine, AGP for the video, and no RAID. The screen breakup, suggests
it may relate to video support. You may find you can get it to install
with a PCI video card. I'd suspect it is the PCI-Express interface that is
confusing W9x. You might also try installing W9x, on another machine, then
setting the video to default VGA, with no AGP enabled, and moving this
setup over.

Best Wishes

In article <cawvf.44652$>,
says...
>
> "Roger Hamlett" <> a écrit dans le
> message de news: AJrvf.59600$...
> >
> > "Jesys" <> wrote in message
> > news:...
> >>I am turfing my P4 machine so I'd like to install Win 98 SE on my 3500+
> >> \A8N SLI Deluxe for when i get the urge to play old Dos games with a tri
> >> boot.
> >>
> >> Problem is that the Win 98 installer just hangs part way thru detecting
> >> hardware. I can't get past this, does this board not support Win 98?
> > Win 98, or 98SE?
> > How long are you letting it sit?.
>
>
>
> > There is a point in the IDE detection, that can commonly take ten+ minutes
> > to pass on fast motherboards (it has to wait for a timeout to occur).
>
> It can take up to one hour for all peripherals to be detected on my board :
> A8N-E. Thought it would never install, but after a few abort, I tried once
> more and decided to tough it out. Works beautifully. But still
> there seems to be a problem with that board.
>
>
>
I am trying 98SE. What happens is that a black bar with white squares
which creates a checkerboard pattern appears thru the screen and the
machine is hung. Either that or when the installer reboots and the Win
98 splash screen appears, the moving bar on the bottom of the graphic
freezes. It is not like the machine is just detecting hardware.

I found my copy of Win Me and it is the same thing.
Maybe I'll try it again but it really seems like it is hung.
Oh, and I set all BIOS settings to default, no OC'ing but that did not
make any difference. I am using the SI3114 for Raid 0 BTW with a pair of
74 Gb Raptors. I have a Chaintech 6600 GT video card and SB Audigy 1 on
the board, that's it.

Funny thing is that my previous 64 bit mobo, the Abit K8V Max (I think
that was the model number) would install 98SE with some hardware
conflicts and when I did Win Updates, it just went insane.
It seems to me like 64 bit hardware does not care for OS's B4 Win 2000.

In article <pnCvf.25312$>,
says...
>
> "Jesys" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > In article <cawvf.44652$>,
> > says...
> >>
> >> "Roger Hamlett" <> a écrit dans le
> >> message de news: AJrvf.59600$...
> >> >
> >> > "Jesys" <> wrote in message
> >> > news:...
> >> >>I am turfing my P4 machine so I'd like to install Win 98 SE on my
> >> >>3500+
> >> >> \A8N SLI Deluxe for when i get the urge to play old Dos games with a
> >> >> tri
> >> >> boot.
> >> >>
> >> >> Problem is that the Win 98 installer just hangs part way thru
> >> >> detecting
> >> >> hardware. I can't get past this, does this board not support Win 98?
> >> > Win 98, or 98SE?
> >> > How long are you letting it sit?.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > There is a point in the IDE detection, that can commonly take ten+
> >> > minutes
> >> > to pass on fast motherboards (it has to wait for a timeout to occur).
> >>
> >> It can take up to one hour for all peripherals to be detected on my
> >> board :
> >> A8N-E. Thought it would never install, but after a few abort, I tried
> >> once
> >> more and decided to tough it out. Works beautifully. But still
> >> there seems to be a problem with that board.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > I am trying 98SE. What happens is that a black bar with white squares
> > which creates a checkerboard pattern appears thru the screen and the
> > machine is hung. Either that or when the installer reboots and the Win
> > 98 splash screen appears, the moving bar on the bottom of the graphic
> > freezes. It is not like the machine is just detecting hardware.
> >
> > I found my copy of Win Me and it is the same thing.
> > Maybe I'll try it again but it really seems like it is hung.
> > Oh, and I set all BIOS settings to default, no OC'ing but that did not
> > make any difference. I am using the SI3114 for Raid 0 BTW with a pair of
> > 74 Gb Raptors. I have a Chaintech 6600 GT video card and SB Audigy 1 on
> > the board, that's it.

Thanks Roger.
You were correct about the video being the hangup. I Ghosted in am image
from my other tower into C: quick and dirty as an experiment and after
much hardware detection, it is working. If I can dig up a PCI video card
from the junk box I'll start fresh or else just clean this up and
install all the drivers and see how it goes. ;-)

On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 22:46:26 -0800, Jesys <> wrote:

>In article <>,
>says...
>> In article <pnCvf.25312$>,
>> says...
>> >
>> > "Jesys" <> wrote in message
>> > news:...
>> > > In article <cawvf.44652$>,
>> > > says...
>> > >>
>> > >> "Roger Hamlett" <> a écrit dans le
>> > >> message de news: AJrvf.59600$...
>> > >> >
>> > >> > "Jesys" <> wrote in message
>> > >> > news:...
>> > >> >>I am turfing my P4 machine so I'd like to install Win 98 SE on my
>> > >> >>3500+
>> > >> >> \A8N SLI Deluxe for when i get the urge to play old Dos games with a
>> > >> >> tri
>> > >> >> boot.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Problem is that the Win 98 installer just hangs part way thru
>> > >> >> detecting
>> > >> >> hardware. I can't get past this, does this board not support Win 98?
>> > >> > Win 98, or 98SE?
>> > >> > How long are you letting it sit?.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> > There is a point in the IDE detection, that can commonly take ten+
>> > >> > minutes
>> > >> > to pass on fast motherboards (it has to wait for a timeout to occur).
>> > >>
>> > >> It can take up to one hour for all peripherals to be detected on my
>> > >> board :
>> > >> A8N-E. Thought it would never install, but after a few abort, I tried
>> > >> once
>> > >> more and decided to tough it out. Works beautifully. But still
>> > >> there seems to be a problem with that board.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > > I am trying 98SE. What happens is that a black bar with white squares
>> > > which creates a checkerboard pattern appears thru the screen and the
>> > > machine is hung. Either that or when the installer reboots and the Win
>> > > 98 splash screen appears, the moving bar on the bottom of the graphic
>> > > freezes. It is not like the machine is just detecting hardware.
>> > >
>> > > I found my copy of Win Me and it is the same thing.
>> > > Maybe I'll try it again but it really seems like it is hung.
>> > > Oh, and I set all BIOS settings to default, no OC'ing but that did not
>> > > make any difference. I am using the SI3114 for Raid 0 BTW with a pair of
>
>Oh great, there is no driver support for Win 98 on this mobo. Game over.

No Win98 driver for a PCI video card? Hard to believe.

Ron

In article <>,
says...
> In article <pnCvf.25312$>,
> says...
> >
> > "Jesys" <> wrote in message
> > news:...
> > > In article <cawvf.44652$>,
> > > says...
> > >>
> > >> "Roger Hamlett" <> a écrit dans le
> > >> message de news: AJrvf.59600$...
> > >> >
> > >> > "Jesys" <> wrote in message
> > >> > news:...
> > >> >>I am turfing my P4 machine so I'd like to install Win 98 SE on my
> > >> >>3500+
> > >> >> \A8N SLI Deluxe for when i get the urge to play old Dos games with a
> > >> >> tri
> > >> >> boot.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Problem is that the Win 98 installer just hangs part way thru
> > >> >> detecting
> > >> >> hardware. I can't get past this, does this board not support Win 98?
> > >> > Win 98, or 98SE?
> > >> > How long are you letting it sit?.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > There is a point in the IDE detection, that can commonly take ten+
> > >> > minutes
> > >> > to pass on fast motherboards (it has to wait for a timeout to occur).
> > >>
> > >> It can take up to one hour for all peripherals to be detected on my
> > >> board :
> > >> A8N-E. Thought it would never install, but after a few abort, I tried
> > >> once
> > >> more and decided to tough it out. Works beautifully. But still
> > >> there seems to be a problem with that board.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > > I am trying 98SE. What happens is that a black bar with white squares
> > > which creates a checkerboard pattern appears thru the screen and the
> > > machine is hung. Either that or when the installer reboots and the Win
> > > 98 splash screen appears, the moving bar on the bottom of the graphic
> > > freezes. It is not like the machine is just detecting hardware.
> > >
> > > I found my copy of Win Me and it is the same thing.
> > > Maybe I'll try it again but it really seems like it is hung.
> > > Oh, and I set all BIOS settings to default, no OC'ing but that did not
> > > make any difference. I am using the SI3114 for Raid 0 BTW with a pair of

Oh great, there is no driver support for Win 98 on this mobo. Game over.

"Jesys" <> wrote in message
news:...
> In article <pnCvf.25312$>,
> says...
>>
>> "Jesys" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> > In article <cawvf.44652$>,
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> "Roger Hamlett" <> a écrit dans
>> >> le
>> >> message de news: AJrvf.59600$...
>> >> >
>> >> > "Jesys" <> wrote in message
>> >> > news:...
>> >> >>I am turfing my P4 machine so I'd like to install Win 98 SE on my
>> >> >>3500+
>> >> >> \A8N SLI Deluxe for when i get the urge to play old Dos games
>> >> >> with a
>> >> >> tri
>> >> >> boot.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Problem is that the Win 98 installer just hangs part way thru
>> >> >> detecting
>> >> >> hardware. I can't get past this, does this board not support Win
>> >> >> 98?
>> >> > Win 98, or 98SE?
>> >> > How long are you letting it sit?.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > There is a point in the IDE detection, that can commonly take ten+
>> >> > minutes
>> >> > to pass on fast motherboards (it has to wait for a timeout to
>> >> > occur).
>> >>
>> >> It can take up to one hour for all peripherals to be detected on my
>> >> board :
>> >> A8N-E. Thought it would never install, but after a few abort, I
>> >> tried
>> >> once
>> >> more and decided to tough it out. Works beautifully. But still
>> >> there seems to be a problem with that board.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> > I am trying 98SE. What happens is that a black bar with white squares
>> > which creates a checkerboard pattern appears thru the screen and the
>> > machine is hung. Either that or when the installer reboots and the
>> > Win
>> > 98 splash screen appears, the moving bar on the bottom of the graphic
>> > freezes. It is not like the machine is just detecting hardware.
>> >
>> > I found my copy of Win Me and it is the same thing.
>> > Maybe I'll try it again but it really seems like it is hung.
>> > Oh, and I set all BIOS settings to default, no OC'ing but that did
>> > not
>> > make any difference. I am using the SI3114 for Raid 0 BTW with a pair
>> > of
>> > 74 Gb Raptors. I have a Chaintech 6600 GT video card and SB Audigy 1
>> > on
>> > the board, that's it.
>
> Thanks Roger.
> You were correct about the video being the hangup. I Ghosted in am image
> from my other tower into C: quick and dirty as an experiment and after
> much hardware detection, it is working. If I can dig up a PCI video card
> from the junk box I'll start fresh or else just clean this up and
> install all the drivers and see how it goes. ;-)
Obvious problem will be that I doubt if you wll find any drivers for PCI
Express and W9x, but in default VGA mode, and with many of the peripherals
not enabled, it should run. It depends what you want to do with it,
whether this will be of use...

Best Wishes

On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 20:26:54 -0800, Jesys <> wrote:

>I am turfing my P4 machine so I'd like to install Win 98 SE on my 3500+
>\A8N SLI Deluxe for when i get the urge to play old Dos games with a tri
>boot.
>
>Problem is that the Win 98 installer just hangs part way thru detecting
>hardware. I can't get past this, does this board not support Win 98?

Not very well even after a great deal of frustration and fiddling.

Maybe it would be better just to pair up both machines using an
appropriate KVM. I run two machines in that configuration - the older
one has a Celeron 1100, Voodoo5 5500, SBLive! ( with full SB16
emulation), and triple-boots Win95, Win98 and WinMe. DOS is readily
accessible from Win95. I still use this older machine for email,
news-reading (as right now) , web-browsing and legacy single-player
gaming, including Glide games. The new machine is used for pro-video
work, educational/software development and modern gaming.

John Lewis