Anybody Else Thinking About Just Skipping Leopard?

In article <marc.heusser->,
Marc Heusser < d>
wrote:

> Leopard works better than Tiger (without bloat!).

What "bloat" is that?

In article < >,
Nelson <> wrote:

> Maybe I'll just wait for "Snow Leopard" and save myself the hassle of
> two upgrades.

Leopard is a fantastic upgrade. But at this point, if your system will
run Snow Leopard you might as well wait.

+ (Mike Rosenberg):

> Nelson <> wrote:
>
>> Interesting point. Has Apple said it won't support the G4 or just not
>> said that it would?
>
> They haven't specifically stated what the hardware requirements will be,
> but developer versions have been Intel-only. I don't think there was
> ever a chance that Snow Leopard would run on G4 machines, though. All
> the speculation has been about possible support for G5 Macs.

I can't cite references, but it has been my definite impression that
snow leopard is more about making the OS more efficient (in space and
time) than about adding new features, though there will of course be new
featues as well. And in pursuing this goal of making the OS meaner and
leaner, it turned out to be too difficult to work with two different
hardware architectures.

--
* Harald Hanche-Olsen <URL:http://www.math.ntnu.no/~hanche/>
- It is undesirable to believe a proposition
when there is no ground whatsoever for supposing it is true.
-- Bertrand Russell

In article < >,
Nelson <> wrote:

> Interesting point. Has Apple said it won't support the G4 or just not
> said that it would?

The install instructions for Snow Leopard say "requires an Intel Mac". I
know, I know, it's beta, but Apple is/are unlikely to suddenly roll back
all that 64 bit doohickery (which is a lot of what SL is about) to
support PPC processors.
--
W. Oates

In article , Harald Hanche-Olsen at
wrote on 2/1/09 4:08 AM:

> + (Mike Rosenberg):
>
>> Nelson <> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting point. Has Apple said it won't support the G4 or just not
>>> said that it would?
>>
>> They haven't specifically stated what the hardware requirements will be,
>> but developer versions have been Intel-only. I don't think there was
>> ever a chance that Snow Leopard would run on G4 machines, though. All
>> the speculation has been about possible support for G5 Macs.
>
> I can't cite references, but it has been my definite impression that
> snow leopard is more about making the OS more efficient (in space and
> time) than about adding new features,


References abound....

Straight from the horse's (leopard's?) mouth:
<http://www.apple.com/macosx/snowleopard/>
<http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/06/09snowleopard.html>

Many more: <http://is.gd/i07M>




> though there will of course be new
> featues as well. And in pursuing this goal of making the OS meaner and
> leaner, it turned out to be too difficult to work with two different
> hardware architectures.

--
iMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) € OS X (10.5.4)

+ Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>:

> In article , Harald Hanche-Olsen at
> wrote on 2/1/09 4:08 AM:
>
>> I can't cite references, but it has been my definite impression that
>> snow leopard is more about making the OS more efficient (in space and
>> time) than about adding new features,
>
>
> References abound....
>
> Straight from the horse's (leopard's?) mouth:
> <http://www.apple.com/macosx/snowleopard/>
> <http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/06/09snowleopard.html>

Thanks. I am sure the second one is the one I was thinking of.

--
* Harald Hanche-Olsen <URL:http://www.math.ntnu.no/~hanche/>
- It is undesirable to believe a proposition
when there is no ground whatsoever for supposing it is true.
-- Bertrand Russell

Anic297 wrote:
> There's something new in Leopard that is useful to me. Have you ever
> connected to another Mac using the Finder, for file sharing, and shut
> down the server before the client? In that case, the client will start
> hanging, trying to find the server (unavailable, of course).
>
> In 10.4, it can hang forever, requiring a forced restart.
> In 10.5, I have never seen it hanging (the "Disconnected from server"
> window is shown immediately and all is fine).
>
> For me, it's a reason to upgrade.

Or downgrade? :-)

I'm running Panther on two machines, Linux on another, and FreeBSD on
the fourth, with all of them having the others' disks mounted.

If I shut one down without dismounting on the others, the Mac(s) pop up
a "server has become unavailable." Click disconnect, and continue
working, no problem. (On Panther, i.e., 10.3)


--
Wes Groleau

Thinking it Through, Two
http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/WWW?itemid=506

In article <4986ce28$0$25810$>,
Anic297 <> wrote:

> Jolly Roger a écrit:
> > And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
>
> Once, an Iceberg spoke to me ;-)

I guess that's why you should wash your lettuce.

In article < >,
Nelson <> wrote:

> Tiger works just fine for me and I have been procrastinating upgrading
> not wanting to deal with all the version incompatibilities with
> software I already have. And the new permission structure sounds like
> an added headache, especially if you don't do a clean install. Plus I
> really can't find any compelling new features. It just looks like
> bloat. I felt the same way about Spotlight and Widgets prior to
> upgrading to Leopard and my opinion has not changed. Maybe I'll just
> wait for "Snow Leopard" and save myself the hassle of two upgrades.

Tiger has many fine features that I'm still learning how to use, so, I
didn't upgrade to Leopard either. From what I've read, for some, the
new features are not necessarily all that more system enhancing or
useful and the OS is still buggy. But, I read that about Tiger and I
upgraded and it worked fine for me. Snow Leopard is just going to be a
small upgrade. Maybe waiting until the next version then catch Leopard
at a discount - or pass it up.

In article <>,
Stephen Adams <> wrote:

> Frankly, at this point, unless there is some compelling applicaiton
> or feature, I'd wait as well. I upgraded ages ago, but having waited
> this long, it's most likely in your best interests to wait for the
> next release.
>
> -Stephen

The next release, if it comes, will probably be an OS designed to run on
netbooks, hand-held devices like the iPhone or something minimal to work
with cloud computing - the future of computing with most software and
storage online. If you want to play in those dark online clouds, you
have to be willing to have everything that you do tracked, logged and
time-stamped.