Anybody Else Thinking About Just Skipping Leopard?

mac user wrote:
> Snow Leopard is just going to be a
> small upgrade. Maybe waiting until the next version then catch Leopard
> at a discount - or pass it up.

You need to look at opportunity costs and upgrade paths to the successor
of Snow Leopard.



They may also be pricing issues that make it far easier to upgrade from
current Snow Leopard to its successor.

If you have hardware that can accept the upgrades, then it is easier in
the long term to go with incremental upfgrades than to stick to one
version until it is no longer supported, at which point, you may be
forced to do a clean re-install and reconfigure everything.

In article <4a48a326$0$48244$>,
mac user <> wrote:

> In article <>,
> Stephen Adams <> wrote:
>
> > Frankly, at this point, unless there is some compelling applicaiton
> > or feature, I'd wait as well. I upgraded ages ago, but having waited
> > this long, it's most likely in your best interests to wait for the
> > next release.
> >
> > -Stephen
>
> The next release, if it comes, will probably be an OS designed to run on
> netbooks, hand-held devices like the iPhone or something minimal to work
> with cloud computing - the future of computing with most software and
> storage online.

Oh, sorry. But we do have some lovely parting gifts for you.

The next release is scheduled to go public in the next 3 months, with
the beta cycle reportedly supporting that goal.

Aside from that, the idea that the next release of Mac OS X is going to
be "designed for" machines that have resource limits that make them
unsuitable for current computing behaviors and tasks is frankly silly.

> If you want to play in those dark online clouds, you
> have to be willing to have everything that you do tracked, logged and
> time-stamped.

This is much less viable than the paranoiacs need to believe.

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In article <4a4899ea$0$48246$>,
mac user <> wrote:

> Snow Leopard is just going to be a
> small upgrade.

My Apple dealer told me that you won't be able to purchase Snow Leopard
by itself. If you don't already have Leopard, you will have to purchase
Leopard separately, and then upgrade it with Snow Leopard.

Fred

In article <fmmck->,
Fred McKenzie <> wrote:

> My Apple dealer told me that you won't be able to purchase Snow
> Leopard by itself. If you don't already have Leopard, you will have
> to purchase Leopard separately, and then upgrade it with Snow
> Leopard.

Your Apple dealer was blowing smoke. You will be able to buy Snow
Leopard along with iWork and iLife, on one disc, for $169. Apple hasn't
said whether Snow Leopard will be sold alone without the two iSuites,
though.

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In article <4a4899ea$0$48246$>,
mac user <> wrote:

> In article < >,
> Nelson <> wrote:
>
> > Tiger works just fine for me and I have been procrastinating upgrading
> > not wanting to deal with all the version incompatibilities with
> > software I already have. And the new permission structure sounds like
> > an added headache, especially if you don't do a clean install. Plus I
> > really can't find any compelling new features. It just looks like
> > bloat. I felt the same way about Spotlight and Widgets prior to
> > upgrading to Leopard and my opinion has not changed. Maybe I'll just
> > wait for "Snow Leopard" and save myself the hassle of two upgrades.
>
> Tiger has many fine features that I'm still learning how to use, so, I
> didn't upgrade to Leopard either. From what I've read, for some, the
> new features are not necessarily all that more system enhancing or
> useful and the OS is still buggy. But, I read that about Tiger and I
> upgraded and it worked fine for me. Snow Leopard is just going to be a
> small upgrade. Maybe waiting until the next version then catch Leopard
> at a discount - or pass it up.

I skipped System 7 almost completely (I had to use it for a few months
briefly to run a printer on an SE 30 while overseas, 6 not being up to
the task). And do I look the worse for it? Of course not!

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I really like Leopard, but as a completely new user to OS X (and
therefore Macs) I can't compare Leopard to Tiger. I'm currently running
Leopard on a Mac Mini G4 1.5GHz CPU with 1gB of RAM (Mac. for a G4
Mini) and it's a bit sluggish, but the OS (X) is fantastic. I think if
I downgraded to Tiger today, I'd miss a lot of features (and probably
miss out on loads I've yet to find, too).

On 2009-01-31 09:45:37 +0000, Nelson <> said:

> Tiger works just fine for me and I have been procrastinating upgrading
> not wanting to deal with all the version incompatibilities with
> software I already have. And the new permission structure sounds like
> an added headache, especially if you don't do a clean install. Plus I
> really can't find any compelling new features. It just looks like
> bloat. I felt the same way about Spotlight and Widgets prior to
> upgrading to Leopard and my opinion has not changed. Maybe I'll just
> wait for "Snow Leopard" and save myself the hassle of two upgrades.

Mike Rosenberg <> wrote:

> Fred McKenzie <> wrote:
>
> > My Apple dealer told me that you won't be able to purchase Snow Leopard
> > by itself. If you don't already have Leopard, you will have to purchase
> > Leopard separately, and then upgrade it with Snow Leopard.
>
> It's interesting that Apple itself is unaware of this.

Yes. That would be incredibly strange. My guess, assuming that the
dealer wasn't just making the whole thing up (I have known dealers who
would do things like that, particularly if that was perhaps a way to
push someone into buying 10.5), is that the dealer misunderstood or
miscommunicated. I have heard about a quite inexpensive upgrade from
10.5. It seems plausible that the price in question might only apply if
you already had 10.5.

But that's not at all the same thing as 10.6 not being available at all
unless you first get 10.5; that doesn't seem plausible. It would be a
real PITA.

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Michelle Steiner <> wrote:

> In article <fmmck->,
> Fred McKenzie <> wrote:
>
> > My Apple dealer told me that you won't be able to purchase Snow
> > Leopard by itself. If you don't already have Leopard, you will have
> > to purchase Leopard separately, and then upgrade it with Snow
> > Leopard.
>
> Your Apple dealer was blowing smoke. You will be able to buy Snow
> Leopard along with iWork and iLife, on one disc, for $169. Apple hasn't
> said whether Snow Leopard will be sold alone without the two iSuites,
> though.

It seems pretty clear that the Mac Box Set (Mac OS X + iLife + iWork)
will be the only option for 10.4 users to get 10.6 after September.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/specs.html

I highly doubt they will sell $29 and $129 versions of Snow Leopard
alongside each other.

- Retailers would have to stock twice as many products.

- The $129 version probably wouldn't sell very well since the Mac Box
Set is only $40 more and most people who are likely to buy Snow Leopard
will already be running Leopard.

- It would open up scope for confusing Leopard users who might buy the
expensive version by mistake and then complain about it. (Tiger users
will have that problem with the $29 version not working.)

The only unanswered question in my mind is whether Apple will continue
selling Leopard after September (for PowerPC users as a final upgrade
option), or whether the September edition of the Mac Box Set will
include Leopard and Snow Leopard.

Given past Apple policy, I expect not, so I'm advising anyone who wants
Leopard to get it before September in case it is hard to find later.

--
David Empson

In article <1j24gt2.y9m0izcpeezhN%>,
(David Empson) wrote:

> It seems pretty clear that the Mac Box Set (Mac OS X + iLife + iWork)
> will be the only option for 10.4 users to get 10.6 after September.
>
> http://www.apple.com/macosx/specs.html

That is all they've announced thus far.

> I highly doubt they will sell $29 and $129 versions of Snow Leopard
> alongside each other.

There may be people who want to move from Tiger to Snow Leopard who do
not want the iSuites.

-- Michelle

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On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:50:21 -0700, Steve Hix wrote:

> Older systems, intel only, mostly already have Leopard installed, and
> older machines that would have come with Tiger installed can't run SL
> anyway. I can't remember if any intel-Macs came with Tiger installed, so
> it's likely not an issue at all.

The first Intel Macs shipped in January, 2006. Leopard shipped in
October, 2007. That's 21 months when all Intel Macs were shipping with
Tiger.

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