anybody know of an available composite video OSD chip

Hi folks,

I've looked hi and low (I've worn out my keyboard's G, O, L, E keys)
and can't seem to find anybody who still manufacturers an On Screen
Display chip that works with composite video. NEC claims to make a
couple (uPD6464A and uPD6465) but where the heck can one get small
quanities?

I'm not really interested in a solution that is also a microcontroller
with built-in OSD. Those tend to be pretty expensive (and also hard to
get samples of) or masked parts (which means you need to buy a whole
lot of them). And I've seen some pretty slick OSD implementations done
using PICs and AVRs to do the genlock and video generation, but I'm
not sure I'll be able to clean that up enough to meet NTSC standards.

I'm just trying to design a simple board that will plug between a
composite video color camera and a monitor or VCR and display some
information on the screen. Volume might be a few hundred to a thousand
a year. I'd really like to use a chip currently in production, not
something like the STV5730.

Thanks for your help,

Mark Hahn

wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I've looked hi and low (I've worn out my keyboard's G, O, L, E keys)
> and can't seem to find anybody who still manufacturers an On Screen
> Display chip that works with composite video. NEC claims to make a
> couple (uPD6464A and uPD6465) but where the heck can one get small
> quanities?
>
> I'm not really interested in a solution that is also a microcontroller
> with built-in OSD. Those tend to be pretty expensive (and also hard to
> get samples of) or masked parts (which means you need to buy a whole
> lot of them). And I've seen some pretty slick OSD implementations done
> using PICs and AVRs to do the genlock and video generation, but I'm
> not sure I'll be able to clean that up enough to meet NTSC standards.
>
> I'm just trying to design a simple board that will plug between a
> composite video color camera and a monitor or VCR and display some
> information on the screen. Volume might be a few hundred to a thousand
> a year. I'd really like to use a chip currently in production, not
> something like the STV5730.
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Mark Hahn
>
Talk to Attila at 4dsystems.com.au

He sells a complete unit, but must have a source for the bits.

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Design Engineer J & K Micro Systems
Microcomputer solutions for industrial control
Note reply address is invalid, convert address above to machine form.

On May 3, 4:50 pm, m...@hvc.rr.com wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I've looked hi and low (I've worn out my keyboard's G, O, L, E keys)
> and can't seem to find anybody who still manufacturers an On Screen
> Display chip that works with composite video. NEC claims to make a
> couple (uPD6464A and uPD6465) but where the heck can one get small
> quanities?
>
> I'm not really interested in a solution that is also a microcontroller
> with built-in OSD. Those tend to be pretty expensive (and also hard to
> get samples of) or masked parts (which means you need to buy a whole
> lot of them). And I've seen some pretty slick OSD implementations done
> using PICs and AVRs to do the genlock and video generation, but I'm
> not sure I'll be able to clean that up enough to meet NTSC standards.
>
> I'm just trying to design a simple board that will plug between a
> composite video color camera and a monitor or VCR and display some
> information on the screen. Volume might be a few hundred to a thousand
> a year. I'd really like to use a chip currently in production, not
> something like the STV5730.
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Mark Hahn

Look into Averlogic. I've had great trouble getting one of their chips
(AL250) to work but in theory, they would have what you want.

On a sunny day (3 May 2007 14:50:16 -0700) it happened wrote
in < .com>:

>Hi folks,

I am using Philips SAA5246 teletext encoder.
Dunno if that one is still in production, but many places have it, anyways
some similar ones should be.
It requires an external SRAM, but there are versions with internal RAM IIRC.
You send and read data to it via i2c.
Full genlock, RGB out, and composite out with BW characters.
Supports simple graphics.
If you need drivers I have these (open source).

In comp.arch.embedded wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I've looked hi and low (I've worn out my keyboard's G, O, L, E keys)
> and can't seem to find anybody who still manufacturers an On Screen
> Display chip that works with composite video.

Yes, pretty hard to find these days eh ?

> NEC claims to make a couple (uPD6464A and uPD6465) but where the heck
> can one get small quanities?

I'm currently using the uPD6467 in a few projects. It's a strange thing
to program, and the quality is the same as a VCR from the eighties - but
it does the job if you don't expect too much of it.

We order from Sascoholz in the Netherlands, they sell small quantaties
as well.


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On May 4, 7:17 am, Ico <use...@zeev.nl> wrote:
> In comp.arch.embedded m...@hvc.rr.com wrote:
> > Hi folks,
>
> > I've looked hi and low (I've worn out my keyboard's G, O, L, E keys)
> > and can't seem to find anybody who still manufacturers an On Screen
> > Display chip that works with composite video.
>
> Yes, pretty hard to find these days eh ?
>
> > NEC claims to make a couple (uPD6464A and uPD6465) but where the heck
> > can one get small quanities?
>
> I'm currently using the uPD6467 in a few projects. It's a strange thing
> to program, and the quality is the same as a VCR from the eighties - but
> it does the job if you don't expect too much of it.
>
> We order from Sascoholz in the Netherlands, they sell small quantaties
> as well.
>
> --
> :wq
> ^X^Cy^K^X^C^C^C^C

Hey Ico, thanks for the pointer to Sascoholz. They have at least heard
of the uPD6465 (but I have to beg and plead to get a price quote,
sigh).

The uPD6467 looks like its intended for RGB video. Are you using it in
a composite video application? The data sheets talks about VC1 and VC2
outputs but I haven't read enough to know if that will work for what I
want. Are there any app notes for it that you know of? I couldn't find
anything on the NEC site.

Thanks,

Mark

wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I've looked hi and low (I've worn out my keyboard's G, O, L, E keys)
> and can't seem to find anybody who still manufacturers an On Screen
> Display chip that works with composite video. NEC claims to make a
> couple (uPD6464A and uPD6465) but where the heck can one get small
> quanities?
>
> I'm not really interested in a solution that is also a microcontroller
> with built-in OSD. Those tend to be pretty expensive (and also hard to
> get samples of) or masked parts (which means you need to buy a whole
> lot of them). And I've seen some pretty slick OSD implementations done
> using PICs and AVRs to do the genlock and video generation, but I'm
> not sure I'll be able to clean that up enough to meet NTSC standards.
>
> I'm just trying to design a simple board that will plug between a
> composite video color camera and a monitor or VCR and display some
> information on the screen. Volume might be a few hundred to a thousand
> a year. I'd really like to use a chip currently in production, not
> something like the STV5730.
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Mark Hahn


Mark,

I guess that email address is not valid, as
atilla AT 4dsystems.com.au
sent you a message and data sheets, redarding being able to assist you.

Email me, or him direct.

Don...



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> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I've looked hi and low (I've worn out my keyboard's G, O, L, E keys)
>> and can't seem to find anybody who still manufacturers an On Screen
>> Display chip that works with composite video. NEC claims to make a
>> couple (uPD6464A and uPD6465) but where the heck can one get small
>> quanities?
>>
>> I'm not really interested in a solution that is also a microcontroller
>> with built-in OSD. Those tend to be pretty expensive (and also hard to
>> get samples of) or masked parts (which means you need to buy a whole
>> lot of them). And I've seen some pretty slick OSD implementations done
>> using PICs and AVRs to do the genlock and video generation, but I'm
>> not sure I'll be able to clean that up enough to meet NTSC standards.
>>
>> I'm just trying to design a simple board that will plug between a
>> composite video color camera and a monitor or VCR and display some
>> information on the screen. Volume might be a few hundred to a thousand
>> a year. I'd really like to use a chip currently in production, not
>> something like the STV5730.
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>>
>> Mark Hahn
>
>
>Mark,
>
>I guess that email address is not valid, as
>atilla AT 4dsystems.com.au
>sent you a message and data sheets, redarding being able to assist you.
>
>Email me, or him direct.
>
>Don...
>
>
>
>--
>Don McKenzie
>E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.dontronics.com/e-mail.html
>
>Crystal clear, super bright OLED LCD (128x128) for your microcontroller.
>Simple serial RX/TX interface. Many memory sizes.
>http://www.dontronics-shop.com/produ...roductid=16460
>
>No More Damn Spam: http://www.wizard-of-oz.com
>

Hi Mark,

Maxim has just introduced a new part that is intended to serve th
composit video OSD market. It will be introduced in 07/2007. The part i
MAX7456. An eval kit is available.

Regards,
Tony