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      09-11-2009, 06:12 PM


The Vista ultimate 64 crashed last night from driver power state on the
keyboard.

When I reboot I saw the raid volume 0 being labelled in yellow as Rebuild.
when I select to see detail I saw
"Raid will be rebuilt in OS"
so I booted into Vista OS and logged in as administrator to let the PC run
overnight.
however the PC shutdown by itself sometimes after 5 AM. when I start it up,
the volume 0 is still "Rebuild"

is there something I have to do or download?

I am only using raid 5 on 3 drives plus 2 stand alone plain Sata Drives, no
blended raid...I did install the drivers form the Asus driver disk. however
Today I found the driver associated with the volume 0 as Microsoft. could
this be a problem?


 
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      09-11-2009, 07:39 PM
gg wrote:
> The Vista ultimate 64 crashed last night from driver power state on the
> keyboard.
>
> When I reboot I saw the raid volume 0 being labelled in yellow as Rebuild.
> when I select to see detail I saw
> "Raid will be rebuilt in OS"
> so I booted into Vista OS and logged in as administrator to let the PC run
> overnight.
> however the PC shutdown by itself sometimes after 5 AM. when I start it up,
> the volume 0 is still "Rebuild"
>
> is there something I have to do or download?
>
> I am only using raid 5 on 3 drives plus 2 stand alone plain Sata Drives, no
> blended raid...I did install the drivers form the Asus driver disk. however
> Today I found the driver associated with the volume 0 as Microsoft. could
> this be a problem?
>
>


How can a RAID 5, still be a RAID 5, unless the Intel drivers are operating ?
Why would the Intel RAID management application, talk to non-Intel drivers,
if that were the case. The Intel RAID management, should check that an
Intel driver is in control.

The volume would "fall apart" and not register at all, if your original software
combination stopped working. If you only have 1/3 of the original RAID, you
don't have a viable file system, so a single drive of the three in the RAID5,
cannot show up in Explorer with its own letter.

You say you have five drives. Three in RAID and two separate drives. Does
the OS boot from one of the separate drives ? Or is the RAID5 used for
booting ?

If the computer shuts down, in the middle of a rebuild, then the status
on next power up, will still require a rebuild. It can leave rebuild state,
once the rebuild is finished.

You also need to figure out, why the computer is shutting down on its own.
If a shutdown is happening, there is a difference between a controlled
shutdown (where the file system is properly flushed to disk), and
an uncontrolled shutdown. So while you can work on your rebuild, you
also need to fix the shutdown issue, whatever that is.

For best performance, a computer with a RAID, should be on a UPS (uninterruptable
power supply). Some UPS boxes, provide power for five minutes or so when
there is a power failure, and when the battery is getting close to empty,
the UPS box can signal to the computer, the need to do a controlled shutdown.
The OS can have a "UPS driver", that listens for that request. And then
the OS can shut down, keeping the file system in reasonable shape.
That reduces the risk of breaking something. But that still won't help,
if the shutdown is caused by something else, such as a CPU overheating
and triggering THERMTRIP. A THERMTRIP gives no advance warning to the OS,
and if you have a problem with a CPU overheating, then fix it. Some
fresh thermal paste, or a new cooler, may solve the problem. So you also
have to work on determine the source, and the type, of the shutdown that
happened.

Paul
 
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      09-12-2009, 02:18 AM
I had to install the latest drivers from Intel and then it did the
verification when Windows started up. You will see progress in system tray
and it may take 10-15 hours to complere. Then when you start up the RAIS
status will be green.

Kent

 
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gg
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      09-13-2009, 03:33 AM
thank you, everyone.

looked like it was the Microsoft ergo keyboard keyboard 4000 v 1 driver that
caused the initial crash. unfortunately, so far, have not found a newer
version of driver.

Last time the Raid 5 volume fell apart, I just set the bios to rebuild and
boot into vista and stayed power on for a day. that fixed the trouble.

this time around it still boot up on the raid 5 volume zero but sure took
longer to rebuild. it's probably because of the extra data in the volume 0

In terms of drives, there are no extra drives. everything looks normal from
the diskmgmt.msc

I just rebooted to confirm the volume 0 status is now "normal"


"Paul" <> wrote in message
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> gg wrote:
> > The Vista ultimate 64 crashed last night from driver power state on the
> > keyboard.
> >
> > When I reboot I saw the raid volume 0 being labelled in yellow as

Rebuild.
> > when I select to see detail I saw
> > "Raid will be rebuilt in OS"
> > so I booted into Vista OS and logged in as administrator to let the PC

run
> > overnight.
> > however the PC shutdown by itself sometimes after 5 AM. when I start it

up,
> > the volume 0 is still "Rebuild"
> >
> > is there something I have to do or download?
> >
> > I am only using raid 5 on 3 drives plus 2 stand alone plain Sata Drives,

no
> > blended raid...I did install the drivers form the Asus driver disk.

however
> > Today I found the driver associated with the volume 0 as Microsoft.

could
> > this be a problem?
> >
> >

>
> How can a RAID 5, still be a RAID 5, unless the Intel drivers are

operating ?
> Why would the Intel RAID management application, talk to non-Intel

drivers,
> if that were the case. The Intel RAID management, should check that an
> Intel driver is in control.
>
> The volume would "fall apart" and not register at all, if your original

software
> combination stopped working. If you only have 1/3 of the original RAID,

you
> don't have a viable file system, so a single drive of the three in the

RAID5,
> cannot show up in Explorer with its own letter.
>
> You say you have five drives. Three in RAID and two separate drives. Does
> the OS boot from one of the separate drives ? Or is the RAID5 used for
> booting ?
>
> If the computer shuts down, in the middle of a rebuild, then the status
> on next power up, will still require a rebuild. It can leave rebuild

state,
> once the rebuild is finished.
>
> You also need to figure out, why the computer is shutting down on its own.
> If a shutdown is happening, there is a difference between a controlled
> shutdown (where the file system is properly flushed to disk), and
> an uncontrolled shutdown. So while you can work on your rebuild, you
> also need to fix the shutdown issue, whatever that is.
>
> For best performance, a computer with a RAID, should be on a UPS

(uninterruptable
> power supply). Some UPS boxes, provide power for five minutes or so when
> there is a power failure, and when the battery is getting close to empty,
> the UPS box can signal to the computer, the need to do a controlled

shutdown.
> The OS can have a "UPS driver", that listens for that request. And then
> the OS can shut down, keeping the file system in reasonable shape.
> That reduces the risk of breaking something. But that still won't help,
> if the shutdown is caused by something else, such as a CPU overheating
> and triggering THERMTRIP. A THERMTRIP gives no advance warning to the OS,
> and if you have a problem with a CPU overheating, then fix it. Some
> fresh thermal paste, or a new cooler, may solve the problem. So you also
> have to work on determine the source, and the type, of the shutdown that
> happened.
>
> Paul




 
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