Attn: Journey (off topic regarding Apple laptops)

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:01:27 -0600, Journey <> wrote:

>On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:02:09 GMT, "Tom Scales" <>
>wrote:
>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RnR [private.php?do=newpm&u=]
>>> Posted At: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:04 AM
>>> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>>> Conversation: Attn: Journey (off topic regarding Apple laptops)
>>> Subject: Re: Attn: Journey (off topic regarding Apple laptops)
>>>
>>> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 07:30:51 -0800 (PST), wrote:
>>>
>>> >Hi!
>>> >
>>> >> Gosh, I can't imagine how people go to work in below
>>> >> zero temperatures in the morning.
>>> >
>>> >With a little bit of forethought, it isn't too bad. Taking a few
>>> >minutes to slink outside and start your vehicle will help take the
>>> >edge off. Or, if you're into fancy stuff...get one of those remote
>>> >starter things.
>>> >
>>> >There are some things you learn in the cold weather--I learned fairly
>>> >quickly that it is not a good idea to let the alternator belt slip on
>>> >a Diesel-engine equipped pickup truck!
>>> >
>>> >William
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks. I used to have to go to work on below freezing weather often
>>> but it wasn't as bad as below zero weather. I didn't need any engine
>>> block warmer tho there were times when the weather got close to the
>>> tolerance of the antifreeze and the engine would take a 2nd or 3rd try
>>> to turn over (normally it took 1st or 2nd). I did preheat the car
>>> before moving it often then.
>>
>>It's a big shock to me moving from Florida to Iowa during the worst
>>winter in YEARS (Al Gore, are listening).
>>
>>Six weeks. 40 inches of snow. -19 (yes, minus 19) degrees (NOT
>>including the wind chill).
>>
>>
>>Gave in Saturday and bought a Ford Explorer
>
>Wise choice to get a 4WD (or AWD). My front-wheel Toyota Matrix isn't
>cutting it this year.


I wonder if you can rent or lease a truck/suv (4 wheel drive/ AWD) for
6 months??? I never heard of this but if so, might solve your
problems or take public transportation if available. In NYC, cars are
a pain due to parking, etc.. and public transportation works best in
all weather.

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:32:19 -0600, RnR <> wrote:

>I wonder if you can rent or lease a truck/suv (4 wheel drive/ AWD) for
>6 months??? I never heard of this but if so, might solve your
>problems or take public transportation if available. In NYC, cars are
>a pain due to parking, etc.. and public transportation works best in
>all weather.

I would consider public transportation at times but I'm not on a good
bus route. Renting would very likely be way too expensive. I'll
survive with my Matrix, it just isn't ideal. Maybe they still make
snow tires and I could change the front tires during winter season.

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:15:47 -0600, Journey <> wrote:

>On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:32:19 -0600, RnR <> wrote:
>
>>I wonder if you can rent or lease a truck/suv (4 wheel drive/ AWD) for
>>6 months??? I never heard of this but if so, might solve your
>>problems or take public transportation if available. In NYC, cars are
>>a pain due to parking, etc.. and public transportation works best in
>>all weather.
>
>I would consider public transportation at times but I'm not on a good
>bus route. Renting would very likely be way too expensive. I'll
>survive with my Matrix, it just isn't ideal. Maybe they still make
>snow tires and I could change the front tires during winter season.


Yeah, I don't know either if they still make snow tires but way back
when I was living in NYC, changing to winter tires in winter time was
the norm (I think it was a law then too). I guess you could either
drop by a tire store or look on the net for snow tires especially
in your size.

RnR <> wrote:

>Yeah, I don't know either if they still make snow tires

Yep they do!!

Google Blizzak tires and you will see. Plus there are
other brands as well

I live in north Missouri and have thought abt gong back
to dedicated snow tires as well. Can only use them
during snow months ONLY as they are soft rubber and
will wear quick on dry pavement..... but I have heard
the traction is MUCH improved over all season tires.

"Tom Scales" <> wrote in message
news:F14D9B65A8DB4C55A5C89DE8C2A16B09@M2010...
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RnR [private.php?do=newpm&u=]
>> Posted At: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:04 AM
>> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
>> Conversation: Attn: Journey (off topic regarding Apple laptops)
>> Subject: Re: Attn: Journey (off topic regarding Apple laptops)
>>
>> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 07:30:51 -0800 (PST), wrote:
>>
>> >Hi!
>> >
>> >> Gosh, I can't imagine how people go to work in below
>> >> zero temperatures in the morning.
>> >
>> >With a little bit of forethought, it isn't too bad. Taking a few
>> >minutes to slink outside and start your vehicle will help take the
>> >edge off. Or, if you're into fancy stuff...get one of those remote
>> >starter things.
>> >
>> >There are some things you learn in the cold weather--I learned fairly
>> >quickly that it is not a good idea to let the alternator belt slip on
>> >a Diesel-engine equipped pickup truck!
>> >
>> >William
>>
>>
>> Thanks. I used to have to go to work on below freezing weather often
>> but it wasn't as bad as below zero weather. I didn't need any engine
>> block warmer tho there were times when the weather got close to the
>> tolerance of the antifreeze and the engine would take a 2nd or 3rd try
>> to turn over (normally it took 1st or 2nd). I did preheat the car
>> before moving it often then.
>
> It's a big shock to me moving from Florida to Iowa during the worst
> winter in YEARS (Al Gore, are listening).
>
> Six weeks. 40 inches of snow. -19 (yes, minus 19) degrees (NOT
> including the wind chill).
>
>
> Gave in Saturday and bought a Ford Explorer
>


I tried to talk you into getting that Subaru Outback a couple of years ago.
You sell the wagon?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [private.php?do=newpm&u=]
> Posted At: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:38 AM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: Attn: Journey (off topic regarding Apple laptops)
> Subject: Re: Attn: Journey (off topic regarding Apple laptops)
>
> RnR <> wrote:
>
> >Yeah, I don't know either if they still make snow tires
>
> Yep they do!!
>
> Google Blizzak tires and you will see. Plus there are
> other brands as well
>
> I live in north Missouri and have thought abt gong back
> to dedicated snow tires as well. Can only use them
> during snow months ONLY as they are soft rubber and
> will wear quick on dry pavement..... but I have heard
> the traction is MUCH improved over all season tires.

Blizzaks are fantastic. I have a set on my station wagon and if I could
consistently get out of my driveway, I'd be just fine. It's very stable
even though it is rear wheel drive and has way too much power.

The driveway, however, forced me to buy an SUV

> -----Original Message-----
> From: S.Lewis [private.php?do=newpm&u=]
> Posted At: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:12 PM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: Attn: Journey (off topic regarding Apple laptops)
> Subject: Re: Attn: Journey (off topic regarding Apple laptops)
>
>
> "Tom Scales" <> wrote in message
> news:F14D9B65A8DB4C55A5C89DE8C2A16B09@M2010...
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: RnR [private.php?do=newpm&u=]
> >> Posted At: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:04 AM
> >> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> >> Conversation: Attn: Journey (off topic regarding Apple laptops)
> >> Subject: Re: Attn: Journey (off topic regarding Apple laptops)
> >>
> >> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 07:30:51 -0800 (PST),
> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hi!
> >> >
> >> >> Gosh, I can't imagine how people go to work in below
> >> >> zero temperatures in the morning.
> >> >
> >> >With a little bit of forethought, it isn't too bad. Taking a few
> >> >minutes to slink outside and start your vehicle will help take the
> >> >edge off. Or, if you're into fancy stuff...get one of those remote
> >> >starter things.
> >> >
> >> >There are some things you learn in the cold weather--I learned
> fairly
> >> >quickly that it is not a good idea to let the alternator belt slip
> on
> >> >a Diesel-engine equipped pickup truck!
> >> >
> >> >William
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks. I used to have to go to work on below freezing weather
> often
> >> but it wasn't as bad as below zero weather. I didn't need any
> engine
> >> block warmer tho there were times when the weather got close to the
> >> tolerance of the antifreeze and the engine would take a 2nd or 3rd
> try
> >> to turn over (normally it took 1st or 2nd). I did preheat the car
> >> before moving it often then.
> >
> > It's a big shock to me moving from Florida to Iowa during the worst
> > winter in YEARS (Al Gore, are listening).
> >
> > Six weeks. 40 inches of snow. -19 (yes, minus 19) degrees (NOT
> > including the wind chill).
> >
> >
> > Gave in Saturday and bought a Ford Explorer
> >
>
>
> I tried to talk you into getting that Subaru Outback a couple of years
> ago.
> You sell the wagon?


Not yet. Don't want to. It's fast and rare and fast.

Probably will.