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Nuttar Buttar
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      10-10-2007, 02:27 AM


Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Newsflash: I think/am_quite_sure I solved the mystery!
>
> A little earlier, I wrote:
> [...]
>
>> I found the User Guides which are on the laptop itself.

>
> I browsed the User Guide some more and then found a section talking
> about "Multi Media" and "Remote Control"! Bingo!
>
> This laptop [1] has a Remote Control [2] (like a TV has) and guess
> what, the Remote Control has a Power button which, amongst others [3],
> has the following function:
>
> <quote>
>
> * When the computer is off, press the button to start Windows.
>
> </quote>
>
> Note "off"! And indeed, when the computer is *off*, i.e. after a
> shut/power down, you can use the Power button of the Remote Control to
> *power*/boot it up, even (tested) while on battery (and not connected
> to AC power)!
>
> So in TV-like terminology, even if the computer is shut/powered down,
> it is still partially in stand-by mode, so you can use the Remote
> Control to power/boot it up. This partial stand-by mode *must* consume
> some power and is probably responsible for the (previously) unexplained
> quick discharge of the battery.
>
> It sure would have been be nice if the User Guides specifically
> mentioned/ warned_for this, but I'm sure I've found the cause of the
> 'problem'.
>
> [1]
>
>> [NEW HP Pavilion dv6570[ed] Notebook (with Windows Vista Home Premium
>> Edition).]

>
> [2] In my defense (if needed), I had never used the Remote Control. It
> was still sitting in the box and even the battery had not yet been
> inserted.
>
> [3] FYI, these are the other functions of the Power button on the Remote
> Control:
>
> <quote>
>
> * When the computer is on, press the button to emulate the computer
> power button. Refer to the computer user guide for information.
>
> * When the computer is in the Sleep state, briefly press the button to
> exit Sleep.
>
> * When the computer is in Hibernation, briefly press the button to
> exit Hibernation.
>
> </quote>


When not in use the remote is supposed to fit in a cradle in the PCI
slot. i wonder if when it is in there when you "power down" it still has
the power draw.
 
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Frank Slootweg
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      10-10-2007, 11:14 AM
Nuttar Buttar <> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > Newsflash: I think/am_quite_sure I solved the mystery!
> >
> > A little earlier, I wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> >> I found the User Guides which are on the laptop itself.

> >
> > I browsed the User Guide some more and then found a section talking
> > about "Multi Media" and "Remote Control"! Bingo!
> >
> > This laptop [1] has a Remote Control [2] (like a TV has) and guess
> > what, the Remote Control has a Power button which, amongst others [3],
> > has the following function:
> >
> > <quote>
> >
> > * When the computer is off, press the button to start Windows.
> >
> > </quote>
> >
> > Note "off"! And indeed, when the computer is *off*, i.e. after a
> > shut/power down, you can use the Power button of the Remote Control to
> > *power*/boot it up, even (tested) while on battery (and not connected
> > to AC power)!
> >
> > So in TV-like terminology, even if the computer is shut/powered down,
> > it is still partially in stand-by mode, so you can use the Remote
> > Control to power/boot it up. This partial stand-by mode *must* consume
> > some power and is probably responsible for the (previously) unexplained
> > quick discharge of the battery.
> >
> > It sure would have been be nice if the User Guides specifically
> > mentioned/ warned_for this, but I'm sure I've found the cause of the
> > 'problem'.
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >> [NEW HP Pavilion dv6570[ed] Notebook (with Windows Vista Home Premium
> >> Edition).]

> >
> > [2] In my defense (if needed), I had never used the Remote Control. It
> > was still sitting in the box and even the battery had not yet been
> > inserted.
> >
> > [3] FYI, these are the other functions of the Power button on the Remote
> > Control:
> >
> > <quote>
> >
> > * When the computer is on, press the button to emulate the computer
> > power button. Refer to the computer user guide for information.
> >
> > * When the computer is in the Sleep state, briefly press the button to
> > exit Sleep.
> >
> > * When the computer is in Hibernation, briefly press the button to
> > exit Hibernation.
> >
> > </quote>

>
> When not in use the remote is supposed to fit in a cradle in the PCI
> slot.


I'll be damned! And I was supposed to know that *how*? :-(

Yes, I thought the Remote Control had a 'funny' shape, but I didn't
pay much attention to it and have never seen an (PCI) ExpressCard, so I
didn't make the connection.

Anyway, after reading your post, I checked the User Guides and it's
also completely silent about this, i.e. nothing in either the Remote
Control section or in the Using ExpressCards section. :-(

BTW, the card and protective insert displayed in the Inserting an
ExpressCard section do not look *at all* like the Remote Control and
protective insert which *I* have. The card in the User Guides looks more
like a Cardbus card, i.e. long, regtangular and round edges on the long
sides. My Remote Control / protective insert are much shorter and have
one corner 'missing'.

> i wonder if when it is in there when you "power down" it still has
> the power draw.


Yes, I would like to know that as well, but, as I mentioned before, it
is hard/'impossible' to test this, because that would mean I would have
to refrain from using the laptop for (at least) several days, preferably
a week, which I of course don't want.

*If* I had *two* Remote Controls, I could test it, i.e. put one in the
cradle and see if you can power/boot up with the second, but of course I
don't have two.
 
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      10-11-2007, 03:22 AM
Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Nuttar Buttar <> wrote:
>> Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>> Newsflash: I think/am_quite_sure I solved the mystery!
>>>
>>> A little earlier, I wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> I found the User Guides which are on the laptop itself.
>>> I browsed the User Guide some more and then found a section talking
>>> about "Multi Media" and "Remote Control"! Bingo!
>>>
>>> This laptop [1] has a Remote Control [2] (like a TV has) and guess
>>> what, the Remote Control has a Power button which, amongst others [3],
>>> has the following function:
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>>
>>> * When the computer is off, press the button to start Windows.
>>>
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>> Note "off"! And indeed, when the computer is *off*, i.e. after a
>>> shut/power down, you can use the Power button of the Remote Control to
>>> *power*/boot it up, even (tested) while on battery (and not connected
>>> to AC power)!
>>>
>>> So in TV-like terminology, even if the computer is shut/powered down,
>>> it is still partially in stand-by mode, so you can use the Remote
>>> Control to power/boot it up. This partial stand-by mode *must* consume
>>> some power and is probably responsible for the (previously) unexplained
>>> quick discharge of the battery.
>>>
>>> It sure would have been be nice if the User Guides specifically
>>> mentioned/ warned_for this, but I'm sure I've found the cause of the
>>> 'problem'.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>>
>>>> [NEW HP Pavilion dv6570[ed] Notebook (with Windows Vista Home Premium
>>>> Edition).]
>>> [2] In my defense (if needed), I had never used the Remote Control. It
>>> was still sitting in the box and even the battery had not yet been
>>> inserted.
>>>
>>> [3] FYI, these are the other functions of the Power button on the Remote
>>> Control:
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>>
>>> * When the computer is on, press the button to emulate the computer
>>> power button. Refer to the computer user guide for information.
>>>
>>> * When the computer is in the Sleep state, briefly press the button to
>>> exit Sleep.
>>>
>>> * When the computer is in Hibernation, briefly press the button to
>>> exit Hibernation.
>>>
>>> </quote>

>> When not in use the remote is supposed to fit in a cradle in the PCI
>> slot.

>
> I'll be damned! And I was supposed to know that *how*? :-(
>
> Yes, I thought the Remote Control had a 'funny' shape, but I didn't
> pay much attention to it and have never seen an (PCI) ExpressCard, so I
> didn't make the connection.
>
> Anyway, after reading your post, I checked the User Guides and it's
> also completely silent about this, i.e. nothing in either the Remote
> Control section or in the Using ExpressCards section. :-(
>
> BTW, the card and protective insert displayed in the Inserting an
> ExpressCard section do not look *at all* like the Remote Control and
> protective insert which *I* have. The card in the User Guides looks more
> like a Cardbus card, i.e. long, regtangular and round edges on the long
> sides. My Remote Control / protective insert are much shorter and have
> one corner 'missing'.
>
>> i wonder if when it is in there when you "power down" it still has
>> the power draw.

>
> Yes, I would like to know that as well, but, as I mentioned before, it
> is hard/'impossible' to test this, because that would mean I would have
> to refrain from using the laptop for (at least) several days, preferably
> a week, which I of course don't want.
>
> *If* I had *two* Remote Controls, I could test it, i.e. put one in the
> cradle and see if you can power/boot up with the second, but of course I
> don't have two.


I was fixing a DV 1000 for somebody and didn't even know about the
remote until I happened to pop out the what I thought were the PCI
spacers. Surprise Surprise. Too bad the dv1000 is one dead puppy, that
was a nice looking laptop.
 
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