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CriHavoc
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      11-07-2003, 03:59 PM


System Hardware

Motherboard: Giga-byte GA-7ZXE
Processor: Athlon XP 1.8+
Memory: 1GB PC133 Kingston Value RAM
Harddrives: Western Digital 40GB 7200rpm
IBM DESKSTAR 60GB 7200rpm
CDROM: 52x BURNER
48x BURNER

Boot Configuration:
Floopy, CDROM, IDE0

Drive Configuration
WD 40GB on IDE 0 Primary (unformatted, Brand New Drive)
IBM 60GB on IDE 0 Secondary (contains current OS [Win2000]
52x Burner on IDE 1 Primary
48X Burner on IDE 1 Secondary

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Issues:

While upgrading by System to WinXP (clean install, boot from CD)
1. Blue Screen, USB.sys error DEVICE_DRIVER_NOT_LESSTHAN_EQUALTO_ZERO
-- disconnected all USB devices from system
-- rebooted

2. Blue Screen, ATAPI.sys error
DEVICE_DRIVER_NOT_LESSTHAN_EQUALTO_ZERO
-- rebooted

3. BLACK SCREEN LOCK on CDROM BOOT SEEK

4. Change Drive Configuration To:
-- WD 40GB Primary on IDE 0
-- 52x Burner Secondary on IDE 0
-- No Drive on IDE 1
5. On Boot
-- infinite reboot loop on CDROM boot seek [no CD in DRIVE]
-- BLACK SCREEN LOCK on CDROM boot seek [WinXP CD in DRIVE]

6. Change Configuration To:
-- Drive
-- IBM 60GB [with Win2000] Primary on IDE 0
-- 52x Burner Secondary on IDE 0
-- CMOS
-- Change Boot Sequence to
-- Floopy
-- IDE 0
-- DISABLED

7. Successful Boot into Win200
-- CDROM is available
-- No issue in windows encountered.

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Does anyone have any suggestions as to why I can no longer boot from
CD. I have attempted to Install WinXp from Win yet because I want a
full clean install on a my new Western Digital.

Thanks
Havoc
 
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Little Monster
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      11-07-2003, 06:31 PM
On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 07:59:21 -0800, CriHavoc wrote
>
> 4. Change Drive Configuration To:
> -- WD 40GB Primary on IDE 0
> -- 52x Burner Secondary on IDE 0
> -- No Drive on IDE 1
> 5. On Boot
> -- infinite reboot loop on CDROM boot seek [no CD in DRIVE]
> -- BLACK SCREEN LOCK on CDROM boot seek [WinXP CD in DRIVE]
>
> 6. Change Configuration To:
> -- Drive
> -- IBM 60GB [with Win2000] Primary on IDE 0
> -- 52x Burner Secondary on IDE 0
> -- CMOS
> -- Change Boot Sequence to
> -- Floopy
> -- IDE 0
> -- DISABLED
>
> 7. Successful Boot into Win200
> -- CDROM is available
> -- No issue in windows encountered.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to why I can no longer boot from
> CD. I have attempted to Install WinXp from Win yet because I want a
> full clean install on a my new Western Digital.


1) For reasons of performance, you should really make your primary drive the
biggest one and install the os on that, reason is you get more files onto
a faster part of the disk (ie near the edge) that way, and it would be a
shame to slow down a nice box that way:-)

2) For reasons of performance, you should really not have a cd, cdrw or
dvd drive on the same ide channel as a hard drive, these things generally
are ATA33 or ATA66. The bus runs at the speed of the slowest device on
it, so you are slowing down your hard drive access with either of your
last 2 configurations

3) Did you format the drive before attempting to install xp on it? You
can't install an operating system without a file system! If you haven't
done so, just open a dos prompt in w2k and do FORMAT <WHATEVER THE NEW
DRIVE LETTER IS>. It might be worth using fdisk first though to create
separate data and os partitions, that way if you trash xp you can
(hopefully!) reformat without losing your data

With your last setup, is it now possible to boot from a cdrom? Apart from it
being available in w2k?

With the previous configs, are you sure all the connectors were really,
really pushed home?

Have you checked the bios is sufficiently up to date for the os? Weird
things can sometimes happen at the time it hands over control to the os.

4) (I just can't resist this;-) Why don't you get rid of that nasty
windows crap and install a real os ;->

Monster
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jamotto
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      11-08-2003, 05:41 AM
"Little Monster" <> wrote in message news:< ws.com>...
> On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 07:59:21 -0800, CriHavoc wrote
> >
> > 4. Change Drive Configuration To:
> > -- WD 40GB Primary on IDE 0
> > -- 52x Burner Secondary on IDE 0
> > -- No Drive on IDE 1
> > 5. On Boot
> > -- infinite reboot loop on CDROM boot seek [no CD in DRIVE]
> > -- BLACK SCREEN LOCK on CDROM boot seek [WinXP CD in DRIVE]
> >
> > 6. Change Configuration To:
> > -- Drive
> > -- IBM 60GB [with Win2000] Primary on IDE 0
> > -- 52x Burner Secondary on IDE 0
> > -- CMOS
> > -- Change Boot Sequence to
> > -- Floopy
> > -- IDE 0
> > -- DISABLED
> >
> > 7. Successful Boot into Win200
> > -- CDROM is available
> > -- No issue in windows encountered.
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Does anyone have any suggestions as to why I can no longer boot from
> > CD. I have attempted to Install WinXp from Win yet because I want a
> > full clean install on a my new Western Digital.

>
> 1) For reasons of performance, you should really make your primary drive the
> biggest one and install the os on that, reason is you get more files onto
> a faster part of the disk (ie near the edge) that way, and it would be a
> shame to slow down a nice box that way:-)
>
> 2) For reasons of performance, you should really not have a cd, cdrw or
> dvd drive on the same ide channel as a hard drive, these things generally
> are ATA33 or ATA66. The bus runs at the speed of the slowest device on
> it, so you are slowing down your hard drive access with either of your
> last 2 configurations
>
> 3) Did you format the drive before attempting to install xp on it? You
> can't install an operating system without a file system! If you haven't
> done so, just open a dos prompt in w2k and do FORMAT <WHATEVER THE NEW
> DRIVE LETTER IS>. It might be worth using fdisk first though to create
> separate data and os partitions, that way if you trash xp you can
> (hopefully!) reformat without losing your data
>
> With your last setup, is it now possible to boot from a cdrom? Apart from it
> being available in w2k?
>
> With the previous configs, are you sure all the connectors were really,
> really pushed home?
>
> Have you checked the bios is sufficiently up to date for the os? Weird
> things can sometimes happen at the time it hands over control to the os.
>
> 4) (I just can't resist this;-) Why don't you get rid of that nasty
> windows crap and install a real os ;->
>
> Monster


I Would also check Microsoft's Hardware Compatibility List (HCL) to
make sure all your hardware is supported.

Also point two from Monster's reply is incorrect the speed of the IDE
channels are set to the speed of the drive that is the master for that
channel.

In the third point you don't have to format the drive to install XP.
XP will format it early in the installation process if you try to
install it on a partition that has not been formatted. Although two
partitions one for the OS and one for the data is a good idea.

lastly, unfortunately it seem's like few people are trying any real
OS's as a IDC study shows that 93.8% of new software licenses for
desktops are for windows, 2.9% for Mac's and 2.8% for paid Linux
distributions(if you throw in free Linux downloads the numbers don't
really change any). Maybe someday though.
 
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CriHavoc
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      11-11-2003, 02:05 PM
(jamotto) wrote in message news:< om>...
> "Little Monster" <> wrote in message news:< ws.com>...
> > On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 07:59:21 -0800, CriHavoc wrote
> > >
> > > 4. Change Drive Configuration To:
> > > -- WD 40GB Primary on IDE 0
> > > -- 52x Burner Secondary on IDE 0
> > > -- No Drive on IDE 1
> > > 5. On Boot
> > > -- infinite reboot loop on CDROM boot seek [no CD in DRIVE]
> > > -- BLACK SCREEN LOCK on CDROM boot seek [WinXP CD in DRIVE]
> > >
> > > 6. Change Configuration To:
> > > -- Drive
> > > -- IBM 60GB [with Win2000] Primary on IDE 0
> > > -- 52x Burner Secondary on IDE 0
> > > -- CMOS
> > > -- Change Boot Sequence to
> > > -- Floopy
> > > -- IDE 0
> > > -- DISABLED
> > >
> > > 7. Successful Boot into Win200
> > > -- CDROM is available
> > > -- No issue in windows encountered.
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to why I can no longer boot from
> > > CD. I have attempted to Install WinXp from Win yet because I want a
> > > full clean install on a my new Western Digital.

> >
> > 1) For reasons of performance, you should really make your primary drive the
> > biggest one and install the os on that, reason is you get more files onto
> > a faster part of the disk (ie near the edge) that way, and it would be a
> > shame to slow down a nice box that way:-)
> >
> > 2) For reasons of performance, you should really not have a cd, cdrw or
> > dvd drive on the same ide channel as a hard drive, these things generally
> > are ATA33 or ATA66. The bus runs at the speed of the slowest device on
> > it, so you are slowing down your hard drive access with either of your
> > last 2 configurations
> >
> > 3) Did you format the drive before attempting to install xp on it? You
> > can't install an operating system without a file system! If you haven't
> > done so, just open a dos prompt in w2k and do FORMAT <WHATEVER THE NEW
> > DRIVE LETTER IS>. It might be worth using fdisk first though to create
> > separate data and os partitions, that way if you trash xp you can
> > (hopefully!) reformat without losing your data
> >
> > With your last setup, is it now possible to boot from a cdrom? Apart from it
> > being available in w2k?
> >
> > With the previous configs, are you sure all the connectors were really,
> > really pushed home?
> >
> > Have you checked the bios is sufficiently up to date for the os? Weird
> > things can sometimes happen at the time it hands over control to the os.
> >
> > 4) (I just can't resist this;-) Why don't you get rid of that nasty
> > windows crap and install a real os ;->
> >
> > Monster

>
> I Would also check Microsoft's Hardware Compatibility List (HCL) to
> make sure all your hardware is supported.
>
> Also point two from Monster's reply is incorrect the speed of the IDE
> channels are set to the speed of the drive that is the master for that
> channel.
>
> In the third point you don't have to format the drive to install XP.
> XP will format it early in the installation process if you try to
> install it on a partition that has not been formatted. Although two
> partitions one for the OS and one for the data is a good idea.
>
> lastly, unfortunately it seem's like few people are trying any real
> OS's as a IDC study shows that 93.8% of new software licenses for
> desktops are for windows, 2.9% for Mac's and 2.8% for paid Linux
> distributions(if you throw in free Linux downloads the numbers don't
> really change any). Maybe someday though.

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Thanks for the posts. However, its all a moot point now. I guess the
issue was a prelude to full motherboard\process failure.

Havoc
 
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CriHavoc
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      11-13-2003, 01:34 PM
(CriHavoc) wrote in message news:<. com>...
> (jamotto) wrote in message news:< om>...
> > "Little Monster" <> wrote in message news:< ws.com>...
> > > On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 07:59:21 -0800, CriHavoc wrote
> > > >
> > > > 4. Change Drive Configuration To:
> > > > -- WD 40GB Primary on IDE 0
> > > > -- 52x Burner Secondary on IDE 0
> > > > -- No Drive on IDE 1
> > > > 5. On Boot
> > > > -- infinite reboot loop on CDROM boot seek [no CD in DRIVE]
> > > > -- BLACK SCREEN LOCK on CDROM boot seek [WinXP CD in DRIVE]
> > > >
> > > > 6. Change Configuration To:
> > > > -- Drive
> > > > -- IBM 60GB [with Win2000] Primary on IDE 0
> > > > -- 52x Burner Secondary on IDE 0
> > > > -- CMOS
> > > > -- Change Boot Sequence to
> > > > -- Floopy
> > > > -- IDE 0
> > > > -- DISABLED
> > > >
> > > > 7. Successful Boot into Win200
> > > > -- CDROM is available
> > > > -- No issue in windows encountered.
> > > >
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to why I can no longer boot from
> > > > CD. I have attempted to Install WinXp from Win yet because I want a
> > > > full clean install on a my new Western Digital.
> > >
> > > 1) For reasons of performance, you should really make your primary drive the
> > > biggest one and install the os on that, reason is you get more files onto
> > > a faster part of the disk (ie near the edge) that way, and it would be a
> > > shame to slow down a nice box that way:-)
> > >
> > > 2) For reasons of performance, you should really not have a cd, cdrw or
> > > dvd drive on the same ide channel as a hard drive, these things generally
> > > are ATA33 or ATA66. The bus runs at the speed of the slowest device on
> > > it, so you are slowing down your hard drive access with either of your
> > > last 2 configurations
> > >
> > > 3) Did you format the drive before attempting to install xp on it? You
> > > can't install an operating system without a file system! If you haven't
> > > done so, just open a dos prompt in w2k and do FORMAT <WHATEVER THE NEW
> > > DRIVE LETTER IS>. It might be worth using fdisk first though to create
> > > separate data and os partitions, that way if you trash xp you can
> > > (hopefully!) reformat without losing your data
> > >
> > > With your last setup, is it now possible to boot from a cdrom? Apart from it
> > > being available in w2k?
> > >
> > > With the previous configs, are you sure all the connectors were really,
> > > really pushed home?
> > >
> > > Have you checked the bios is sufficiently up to date for the os? Weird
> > > things can sometimes happen at the time it hands over control to the os.
> > >
> > > 4) (I just can't resist this;-) Why don't you get rid of that nasty
> > > windows crap and install a real os ;->
> > >
> > > Monster

> >
> > I Would also check Microsoft's Hardware Compatibility List (HCL) to
> > make sure all your hardware is supported.
> >
> > Also point two from Monster's reply is incorrect the speed of the IDE
> > channels are set to the speed of the drive that is the master for that
> > channel.
> >
> > In the third point you don't have to format the drive to install XP.
> > XP will format it early in the installation process if you try to
> > install it on a partition that has not been formatted. Although two
> > partitions one for the OS and one for the data is a good idea.
> >
> > lastly, unfortunately it seem's like few people are trying any real
> > OS's as a IDC study shows that 93.8% of new software licenses for
> > desktops are for windows, 2.9% for Mac's and 2.8% for paid Linux
> > distributions(if you throw in free Linux downloads the numbers don't
> > really change any). Maybe someday though.

> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Thanks for the posts. However, its all a moot point now. I guess the
> issue was a prelude to full motherboard\process failure.
>
> Havoc

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The joys of Western Digital

I discovered the real issue.
I purchased a Western Digital 40GB HardDrive because my IBM 60GB drive
was starting to die. It seems that the Western Digital drive does play
well with others. I had the WB drive jumpers set to Master with Slave.
When the IBM didn't spin up, the Western Digital drive caused faults
in all of the IDE channels. I could boot from floppy but that was it.
Once I pulled to IBM drive and set the WD drive to master only, I
didn't have anymore problems.
 
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