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Tom Scales
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      02-16-2007, 12:23 PM


I have two drives (Seagate 750GB) in a Raid 0 array. It know all about the
risks, but am willing to take them as I don't mind losing the contents and
have one really, really big drive is very convenient.

The question is, can I add drives to the array without corrupting the
existing data? I suspect the answer is no, but moving 1.5TB off the disk is
a challenge, particularly given that I have to empty the other 1.5TB to add
those drives to the array.

Thanks,

Tom


 
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      02-16-2007, 04:50 PM
Yuor assumption is correct Tom, one way though would be to connect an
external drive and export the data , add more disks and create a new array
then import the data back but I guesse you've already thought of that
"Tom Scales" <> wrote in message
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>I have two drives (Seagate 750GB) in a Raid 0 array. It know all about the
>risks, but am willing to take them as I don't mind losing the contents and
>have one really, really big drive is very convenient.
>
> The question is, can I add drives to the array without corrupting the
> existing data? I suspect the answer is no, but moving 1.5TB off the disk
> is a challenge, particularly given that I have to empty the other 1.5TB to
> add those drives to the array.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
>



 
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      02-17-2007, 01:51 AM
PCtechsupport wrote:
> Yuor assumption is correct Tom, one way though would be to connect an
> external drive and export the data , add more disks and create a new array
> then import the data back but I guesse you've already thought of that
> "Tom Scales" <> wrote in message
> news:45d5a225$0$13255$...
>> I have two drives (Seagate 750GB) in a Raid 0 array. It know all about the
>> risks, but am willing to take them as I don't mind losing the contents and
>> have one really, really big drive is very convenient.
>>
>> The question is, can I add drives to the array without corrupting the
>> existing data? I suspect the answer is no, but moving 1.5TB off the disk
>> is a challenge, particularly given that I have to empty the other 1.5TB to
>> add those drives to the array.


Here's an Intel white paper with a chart on the last page (pg 17)
showing various migrations.

ftp://download.intel.com/design/chip...s/31085501.pdf

It says "no" for going from a 2 disk RAID0 to a 3 disk RAID0.
 
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      02-17-2007, 02:10 AM

"Sparky Spartacus" <> wrote in message
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> PCtechsupport wrote:
>> Yuor assumption is correct Tom, one way though would be to connect an
>> external drive and export the data , add more disks and create a new
>> array then import the data back but I guesse you've already thought of
>> that
>> "Tom Scales" <> wrote in message
>> news:45d5a225$0$13255$...
>>> I have two drives (Seagate 750GB) in a Raid 0 array. It know all about
>>> the risks, but am willing to take them as I don't mind losing the
>>> contents and have one really, really big drive is very convenient.
>>>
>>> The question is, can I add drives to the array without corrupting the
>>> existing data? I suspect the answer is no, but moving 1.5TB off the
>>> disk is a challenge, particularly given that I have to empty the other
>>> 1.5TB to add those drives to the array.

>
> Here's an Intel white paper with a chart on the last page (pg 17) showing
> various migrations.
>
> ftp://download.intel.com/design/chip...s/31085501.pdf
>
> It says "no" for going from a 2 disk RAID0 to a 3 disk RAID0.


Yeah, I'm moving data around tonight. I've scrounged every hard drive that
was sitting in drawers and installed them in every available slot in every
available machine (thank goodness for RealVNC to manage them all).

I'm having to clear off almost 4TB to make this work.


 
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      02-17-2007, 06:21 AM
Tom Scales wrote:
> "Sparky Spartacus" <> wrote in message
> news:WctBh.80$...
>> PCtechsupport wrote:
>>> Yuor assumption is correct Tom, one way though would be to connect an
>>> external drive and export the data , add more disks and create a new
>>> array then import the data back but I guesse you've already thought of
>>> that
>>> "Tom Scales" <> wrote in message
>>> news:45d5a225$0$13255$...
>>>> I have two drives (Seagate 750GB) in a Raid 0 array. It know all about
>>>> the risks, but am willing to take them as I don't mind losing the
>>>> contents and have one really, really big drive is very convenient.
>>>>
>>>> The question is, can I add drives to the array without corrupting the
>>>> existing data? I suspect the answer is no, but moving 1.5TB off the
>>>> disk is a challenge, particularly given that I have to empty the other
>>>> 1.5TB to add those drives to the array.

>> Here's an Intel white paper with a chart on the last page (pg 17) showing
>> various migrations.
>>
>> ftp://download.intel.com/design/chip...s/31085501.pdf
>>
>> It says "no" for going from a 2 disk RAID0 to a 3 disk RAID0.

>
> Yeah, I'm moving data around tonight. I've scrounged every hard drive that
> was sitting in drawers and installed them in every available slot in every
> available machine (thank goodness for RealVNC to manage them all).
>
> I'm having to clear off almost 4TB to make this work.


Good Lord, that's a lot of bytes!
 
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      02-17-2007, 11:29 AM

"Sparky Spartacus" <> wrote in message
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> Tom Scales wrote:
>> "Sparky Spartacus" <> wrote in message
>> news:WctBh.80$...
>>> PCtechsupport wrote:
>>>> Yuor assumption is correct Tom, one way though would be to connect an
>>>> external drive and export the data , add more disks and create a new
>>>> array then import the data back but I guesse you've already thought of
>>>> that
>>>> "Tom Scales" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:45d5a225$0$13255$...
>>>>> I have two drives (Seagate 750GB) in a Raid 0 array. It know all
>>>>> about the risks, but am willing to take them as I don't mind losing
>>>>> the contents and have one really, really big drive is very convenient.
>>>>>
>>>>> The question is, can I add drives to the array without corrupting the
>>>>> existing data? I suspect the answer is no, but moving 1.5TB off the
>>>>> disk is a challenge, particularly given that I have to empty the other
>>>>> 1.5TB to add those drives to the array.
>>> Here's an Intel white paper with a chart on the last page (pg 17)
>>> showing various migrations.
>>>
>>> ftp://download.intel.com/design/chip...s/31085501.pdf
>>>
>>> It says "no" for going from a 2 disk RAID0 to a 3 disk RAID0.

>>
>> Yeah, I'm moving data around tonight. I've scrounged every hard drive
>> that was sitting in drawers and installed them in every available slot in
>> every available machine (thank goodness for RealVNC to manage them all).
>>
>> I'm having to clear off almost 4TB to make this work.

>
> Good Lord, that's a lot of bytes!


And think of how many bits!


 
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      02-17-2007, 04:52 PM
You could always backup your data to floppies, then restore from floppies
after you get the new drive added to the array....
You DO have a floppy drive in the 9200 don't you???

"Tom Scales" <> wrote in message
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>
> "Sparky Spartacus" <> wrote in message
> news:7axBh.65$...
>> Tom Scales wrote:
>>> "Sparky Spartacus" <> wrote in message
>>> news:WctBh.80$...
>>>> PCtechsupport wrote:
>>>>> Yuor assumption is correct Tom, one way though would be to connect an
>>>>> external drive and export the data , add more disks and create a new
>>>>> array then import the data back but I guesse you've already thought of
>>>>> that
>>>>> "Tom Scales" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:45d5a225$0$13255$...
>>>>>> I have two drives (Seagate 750GB) in a Raid 0 array. It know all
>>>>>> about the risks, but am willing to take them as I don't mind losing
>>>>>> the contents and have one really, really big drive is very
>>>>>> convenient.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The question is, can I add drives to the array without corrupting the
>>>>>> existing data? I suspect the answer is no, but moving 1.5TB off the
>>>>>> disk is a challenge, particularly given that I have to empty the
>>>>>> other 1.5TB to add those drives to the array.
>>>> Here's an Intel white paper with a chart on the last page (pg 17)
>>>> showing various migrations.
>>>>
>>>> ftp://download.intel.com/design/chip...s/31085501.pdf
>>>>
>>>> It says "no" for going from a 2 disk RAID0 to a 3 disk RAID0.
>>>
>>> Yeah, I'm moving data around tonight. I've scrounged every hard drive
>>> that was sitting in drawers and installed them in every available slot
>>> in every available machine (thank goodness for RealVNC to manage them
>>> all).
>>>
>>> I'm having to clear off almost 4TB to make this work.

>>
>> Good Lord, that's a lot of bytes!

>
> And think of how many bits!
>



 
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      02-17-2007, 08:11 PM

"HDRDTD" <> wrote in message
news: ...
> You could always backup your data to floppies, then restore from floppies
> after you get the new drive added to the array....
> You DO have a floppy drive in the 9200 don't you???
>
> "Tom Scales" <> wrote in message
> news:45d6e6f1$0$32444$...
>>
>> "Sparky Spartacus" <> wrote in message
>> news:7axBh.65$...
>>> Tom Scales wrote:
>>>> "Sparky Spartacus" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:WctBh.80$...
>>>>> PCtechsupport wrote:
>>>>>> Yuor assumption is correct Tom, one way though would be to connect an
>>>>>> external drive and export the data , add more disks and create a new
>>>>>> array then import the data back but I guesse you've already thought
>>>>>> of that
>>>>>> "Tom Scales" <> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:45d5a225$0$13255$...
>>>>>>> I have two drives (Seagate 750GB) in a Raid 0 array. It know all
>>>>>>> about the risks, but am willing to take them as I don't mind losing
>>>>>>> the contents and have one really, really big drive is very
>>>>>>> convenient.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The question is, can I add drives to the array without corrupting
>>>>>>> the existing data? I suspect the answer is no, but moving 1.5TB off
>>>>>>> the disk is a challenge, particularly given that I have to empty the
>>>>>>> other 1.5TB to add those drives to the array.
>>>>> Here's an Intel white paper with a chart on the last page (pg 17)
>>>>> showing various migrations.
>>>>>
>>>>> ftp://download.intel.com/design/chip...s/31085501.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> It says "no" for going from a 2 disk RAID0 to a 3 disk RAID0.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I'm moving data around tonight. I've scrounged every hard drive
>>>> that was sitting in drawers and installed them in every available slot
>>>> in every available machine (thank goodness for RealVNC to manage them
>>>> all).
>>>>
>>>> I'm having to clear off almost 4TB to make this work.
>>>
>>> Good Lord, that's a lot of bytes!

>>
>> And think of how many bits!
>>

>
>


That made me laugh. 4Tb = 4000 GB = 4,000,000Mb

So, roughly 3,000,000 floppies. Should be pretty speedy


 
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      02-17-2007, 09:23 PM

"Tom Scales" <> wrote in message
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>
> "HDRDTD" <> wrote in message
> news: ...
>> You could always backup your data to floppies, then restore from floppies
>> after you get the new drive added to the array....
>> You DO have a floppy drive in the 9200 don't you???
>>
>> "Tom Scales" <> wrote in message
>> news:45d6e6f1$0$32444$...
>>>
>>> "Sparky Spartacus" <> wrote in message
>>> news:7axBh.65$...
>>>> Tom Scales wrote:
>>>>> "Sparky Spartacus" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:WctBh.80$...
>>>>>> PCtechsupport wrote:
>>>>>>> Yuor assumption is correct Tom, one way though would be to connect
>>>>>>> an external drive and export the data , add more disks and create a
>>>>>>> new array then import the data back but I guesse you've already
>>>>>>> thought of that
>>>>>>> "Tom Scales" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:45d5a225$0$13255$...
>>>>>>>> I have two drives (Seagate 750GB) in a Raid 0 array. It know all
>>>>>>>> about the risks, but am willing to take them as I don't mind losing
>>>>>>>> the contents and have one really, really big drive is very
>>>>>>>> convenient.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The question is, can I add drives to the array without corrupting
>>>>>>>> the existing data? I suspect the answer is no, but moving 1.5TB
>>>>>>>> off the disk is a challenge, particularly given that I have to
>>>>>>>> empty the other 1.5TB to add those drives to the array.
>>>>>> Here's an Intel white paper with a chart on the last page (pg 17)
>>>>>> showing various migrations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ftp://download.intel.com/design/chip...s/31085501.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It says "no" for going from a 2 disk RAID0 to a 3 disk RAID0.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I'm moving data around tonight. I've scrounged every hard drive
>>>>> that was sitting in drawers and installed them in every available slot
>>>>> in every available machine (thank goodness for RealVNC to manage them
>>>>> all).
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm having to clear off almost 4TB to make this work.
>>>>
>>>> Good Lord, that's a lot of bytes!
>>>
>>> And think of how many bits!
>>>

>>
>>

>
> That made me laugh. 4Tb = 4000 GB = 4,000,000Mb
>
> So, roughly 3,000,000 floppies. Should be pretty speedy
>


Who said anything about high-density 3 1/2 floppies???

Don't you have any spare 180k 5 1/4 " low density disks around??

You DID install a 5 1/4" floppy drive didn't you?

I don't think and old 8" floppy drive would fit in the case unless to
mounted it sideways....



 
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      02-18-2007, 12:06 AM
Tom Scales wrote:
> "Sparky Spartacus" <> wrote in message
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>> Tom Scales wrote:
>>> "Sparky Spartacus" <> wrote in message
>>> news:WctBh.80$...
>>>> PCtechsupport wrote:
>>>>> Yuor assumption is correct Tom, one way though would be to connect an
>>>>> external drive and export the data , add more disks and create a new
>>>>> array then import the data back but I guesse you've already thought of
>>>>> that
>>>>> "Tom Scales" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:45d5a225$0$13255$...
>>>>>> I have two drives (Seagate 750GB) in a Raid 0 array. It know all
>>>>>> about the risks, but am willing to take them as I don't mind losing
>>>>>> the contents and have one really, really big drive is very convenient.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The question is, can I add drives to the array without corrupting the
>>>>>> existing data? I suspect the answer is no, but moving 1.5TB off the
>>>>>> disk is a challenge, particularly given that I have to empty the other
>>>>>> 1.5TB to add those drives to the array.
>>>> Here's an Intel white paper with a chart on the last page (pg 17)
>>>> showing various migrations.
>>>>
>>>> ftp://download.intel.com/design/chip...s/31085501.pdf
>>>>
>>>> It says "no" for going from a 2 disk RAID0 to a 3 disk RAID0.
>>> Yeah, I'm moving data around tonight. I've scrounged every hard drive
>>> that was sitting in drawers and installed them in every available slot in
>>> every available machine (thank goodness for RealVNC to manage them all).
>>>
>>> I'm having to clear off almost 4TB to make this work.

>> Good Lord, that's a lot of bytes!

>
> And think of how many bits!


Bytes x 8 <g>
 
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