Dell express Vista upgrade program

Hi,

With my PC I got the chance to upgrade to Vista for around £10 or
whatever. I can't use it yet, because I have apps which just won't
work with it until they are upgraded. However, if I buy the Dell
edition, is this a product that will allow me to do a clean install of
the OS, or do I have to install the XP edition before installing
Vista? After upgrading from NT to 2000, I never *ever* want to go
down that route again!

Andrew.

Upgrade Vistas upgrade. The old 'feed it the old cd' and do a clean upgrade
process is gone.

However, there is a simple workaround. You install Vista and DO NOT
activate it.
Then you install Vista again.

It will see an acceptable OS (Vista) and reinstall itself.

Weird, huh.
"Andrew Hodgson" <> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> With my PC I got the chance to upgrade to Vista for around £10 or
> whatever. I can't use it yet, because I have apps which just won't
> work with it until they are upgraded. However, if I buy the Dell
> edition, is this a product that will allow me to do a clean install of
> the OS, or do I have to install the XP edition before installing
> Vista? After upgrading from NT to 2000, I never *ever* want to go
> down that route again!
>
> Andrew.

> or do I have to install the XP edition before installing Vista?
> After upgrading from NT to 2000, I never *ever* want to go down
> that route again!

If you read some of the computer press over the last few days, there has
been a work-around to save you having to install XP first, and you can
do it from a clean install.

Simply don't enter a registration code when you install, and when you
boot it'll ask again. Job done !

Microsoft have even said they have no intention of closing the loophole
(see http://www.theinquirer.net and http://www.theregister.co.uk)

Have you read any of the non-salesman-talk reviews about it though ? -
it's time to swap to linux, and be shut of the abortion known as
Microsoft forever !

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut00...ista_cost.html
http://badvista.fsf.org/
http://www.defectivebydesign.org/

On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:20:00 -0000, Colin Wilson
< o.uk> wrote:

>> or do I have to install the XP edition before installing Vista?
>> After upgrading from NT to 2000, I never *ever* want to go down
>> that route again!
>
>If you read some of the computer press over the last few days, there has
>been a work-around to save you having to install XP first, and you can
>do it from a clean install.
>
>Simply don't enter a registration code when you install, and when you
>boot it'll ask again. Job done !

There are variations on this from what you said to the do an install
over the top of the existing clean install method which I am not happy
with. If your method works that would be better - i.e, it asks for
activation after the clean install.

>Have you read any of the non-salesman-talk reviews about it though ? -
>it's time to swap to linux, and be shut of the abortion known as
>Microsoft forever !

The DRM stuff is scary. However, at current although do a lot of
Linux administration via SSH, I use a screen reader as am visually
impaired and so have no choice for Windows, as the desktop on Linux is
not really accessible at the moment (it works with Orca, but doesn't
speak as much detail as Windows does).

Andrew.

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> Andrew.

Andrew,

Just curious, which screen reader do you use? Jaws? WindowsEyes? My wife
was fairly well know in the Jaws community.

Tom

On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:01:20 -0500, "Tom Scales" <>
wrote:

>
>"Andrew Hodgson" <> wrote in message
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>
>> Andrew.
>
>Andrew,
>
>Just curious, which screen reader do you use? Jaws? WindowsEyes? My wife
>was fairly well know in the Jaws community.

I use Jaws. Actually, I do seem to remember someone called Deborah
Scales, who ran the jfwlite website. I had heard that she passed away
last year - sorry about that. I don't get involved much in the screen
reader side of things, if it is working, I just use it, and use the
computer for what I need to do. There are a lot of
things/customisations you can do to it, but as I spend my work
programing and working with computers, I just let it do its thing.

It is very annoying when it fails though, but luckily I have some
sight and so can see to do some things if it goes wrong.

Andrew.

"Andrew Hodgson" <> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:01:20 -0500, "Tom Scales" <>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Andrew Hodgson" <> wrote in message
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>>
>>> Andrew.
>>
>>Andrew,
>>
>>Just curious, which screen reader do you use? Jaws? WindowsEyes? My wife
>>was fairly well know in the Jaws community.
>
> I use Jaws. Actually, I do seem to remember someone called Deborah
> Scales, who ran the jfwlite website. I had heard that she passed away
> last year - sorry about that. I don't get involved much in the screen
> reader side of things, if it is working, I just use it, and use the
> computer for what I need to do. There are a lot of
> things/customisations you can do to it, but as I spend my work
> programing and working with computers, I just let it do its thing.
>
> It is very annoying when it fails though, but luckily I have some
> sight and so can see to do some things if it goes wrong.
>
> Andrew.

Yes, that was my Debbie. Thanks for the kind thoughts. Interesting to hear
how she is known. She is missed by many.

Tom