dimension 4500: which HD interface

I have an old Dimension 4500 that I'm going to convert to a linux box.
I want to buy a new 1 TB drive for it.

Here's the problem: I don't know whether it's a SATA or ATA interface.
Does anyone know?

If it's ATA should/could I get a SATA card and run a SATA drive off of
it.

I need to old drive, emoved it from the computer a couple of months
ago, and can't find it now (naturally), though maybe I can look
harder. The cable is still in place.

Thanks.

yirg.kenya wrote:
> I have an old Dimension 4500 that I'm going to convert to a linux box.
> I want to buy a new 1 TB drive for it.
>
> Here's the problem: I don't know whether it's a SATA or ATA interface.
> Does anyone know?
>
> If it's ATA should/could I get a SATA card and run a SATA drive off of
> it.
>
> I need to old drive, emoved it from the computer a couple of months
> ago, and can't find it now (naturally), though maybe I can look
> harder. The cable is still in place.
>
> Thanks.
>

The Dimension 4500 (and 4550) have only two PATA connectors.

The largest PATA drive I have seen is 400GB. Maybe they went up to
500GB, but I doubt much larger.

My suggestion is to buy the largest most cost-effective PATA drive you
can find and leave it at that... Ben Myers

Thanks, everyone.

All those ATA variations get me confused.

Will an EIDE work? Pricewatch has a bunch of 500GB drives listed under
Ultra but a number say EIDE. My reading said that Ultra refers to the
dma transfer.

On Oct 22, 8:38*pm, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
> yirg.kenya wrote:
> > I have an old Dimension 4500 that I'm going to convert to a linux box.
> > I want to buy a new 1 TB drive for it.
>
> > Here's the problem: I don't know whether it's a SATA or ATA interface.
> > Does anyone know?
>
> > If it's ATA should/could I get a SATA card and run a SATA drive off of
> > it.
>
> > I need to old drive, emoved it from the computer a couple of months
> > ago, and can't find it now (naturally), though maybe I can look
> > harder. The cable is still in place.
>
> > Thanks.
>
> The Dimension 4500 (and 4550) have only two PATA connectors.
>
> The largest PATA drive I have seen is 400GB. *Maybe they went up to
> 500GB, but I doubt much larger.
>
> My suggestion is to buy the largest most cost-effective PATA drive you
> can find and leave it at that... Ben Myers

On Oct 22, 11:26*pm, "yirg.kenya" <yirg.ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, everyone.
>
> All those ATA variations get me confused.
>
> Will an EIDE work? Pricewatch has a bunch of 500GB drives listed under
> Ultra but a number say EIDE. My reading said that Ultra refers to the
> dma transfer.
>
> On Oct 22, 8:38*pm, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
>
> > yirg.kenya wrote:
> > > I have an old Dimension 4500 that I'm going to convert to a linux box..
> > > I want to buy a new 1 TB drive for it.
>
> > > Here's the problem: I don't know whether it's a SATA or ATA interface..
> > > Does anyone know?
>
> > > If it's ATA should/could I get a SATA card and run a SATA drive off of
> > > it.
>
> > > I need to old drive, emoved it from the computer a couple of months
> > > ago, and can't find it now (naturally), though maybe I can look
> > > harder. The cable is still in place.
>
> > > Thanks.
>
> > The Dimension 4500 (and 4550) have only two PATA connectors.
>
> > The largest PATA drive I have seen is 400GB. *Maybe they went up to
> > 500GB, but I doubt much larger.
>
> > My suggestion is to buy the largest most cost-effective PATA drive you
> > can find and leave it at that... Ben Myers

One last question (I hope). Will ATA-133 work, or do I need ATA-100.
Newegg offers ATA drives too.

yirg.kenya wrote:
> Thanks, everyone.
>
> All those ATA variations get me confused.
>
> Will an EIDE work? Pricewatch has a bunch of 500GB drives listed under
> Ultra but a number say EIDE. My reading said that Ultra refers to the
> dma transfer.
>
> On Oct 22, 8:38 pm, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
>> yirg.kenya wrote:
>>> I have an old Dimension 4500 that I'm going to convert to a linux box.
>>> I want to buy a new 1 TB drive for it.
>>> Here's the problem: I don't know whether it's a SATA or ATA interface.
>>> Does anyone know?
>>> If it's ATA should/could I get a SATA card and run a SATA drive off of
>>> it.
>>> I need to old drive, emoved it from the computer a couple of months
>>> ago, and can't find it now (naturally), though maybe I can look
>>> harder. The cable is still in place.
>>> Thanks.
>> The Dimension 4500 (and 4550) have only two PATA connectors.
>>
>> The largest PATA drive I have seen is 400GB. Maybe they went up to
>> 500GB, but I doubt much larger.
>>
>> My suggestion is to buy the largest most cost-effective PATA drive you
>> can find and leave it at that... Ben Myers
>
EIDE, PATA, and ATA are the same. Go for the 500GB... Ben

yirg.kenya wrote:
> On Oct 22, 11:26 pm, "yirg.kenya" <yirg.ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks, everyone.
>>
>> All those ATA variations get me confused.
>>
>> Will an EIDE work? Pricewatch has a bunch of 500GB drives listed under
>> Ultra but a number say EIDE. My reading said that Ultra refers to the
>> dma transfer.
>>
>> On Oct 22, 8:38 pm, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>> yirg.kenya wrote:
>>>> I have an old Dimension 4500 that I'm going to convert to a linux box.
>>>> I want to buy a new 1 TB drive for it.
>>>> Here's the problem: I don't know whether it's a SATA or ATA interface.
>>>> Does anyone know?
>>>> If it's ATA should/could I get a SATA card and run a SATA drive off of
>>>> it.
>>>> I need to old drive, emoved it from the computer a couple of months
>>>> ago, and can't find it now (naturally), though maybe I can look
>>>> harder. The cable is still in place.
>>>> Thanks.
>>> The Dimension 4500 (and 4550) have only two PATA connectors.
>>> The largest PATA drive I have seen is 400GB. Maybe they went up to
>>> 500GB, but I doubt much larger.
>>> My suggestion is to buy the largest most cost-effective PATA drive you
>>> can find and leave it at that... Ben Myers
>
> One last question (I hope). Will ATA-133 work, or do I need ATA-100.
> Newegg offers ATA drives too.

ATA-133 will work with an older controller incapable of running at
faster speeds. The 4500 with the Intel 845 chipset will run an ATA-133
drive at full rated speed... Ben

On Oct 23, 7:09*am, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
> yirg.kenya wrote:
> > On Oct 22, 11:26 pm, "yirg.kenya" <yirg.ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Thanks, everyone.
>
> >> All those ATA variations get me confused.
>
> >> Will an EIDE work? Pricewatch has a bunch of 500GB drives listed under
> >> Ultra but a number say EIDE. My reading said that Ultra refers to the
> >> dma transfer.
>
> >> On Oct 22, 8:38 pm, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
>
> >>> yirg.kenya wrote:
> >>>> I have an old Dimension 4500 that I'm going to convert to a linux box.
> >>>> I want to buy a new 1 TB drive for it.
> >>>> Here's the problem: I don't know whether it's a SATA or ATA interface.
> >>>> Does anyone know?
> >>>> If it's ATA should/could I get a SATA card and run a SATA drive off of
> >>>> it.
> >>>> I need to old drive, emoved it from the computer a couple of months
> >>>> ago, and can't find it now (naturally), though maybe I can look
> >>>> harder. The cable is still in place.
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>> The Dimension 4500 (and 4550) have only two PATA connectors.
> >>> The largest PATA drive I have seen is 400GB. *Maybe they went up to
> >>> 500GB, but I doubt much larger.
> >>> My suggestion is to buy the largest most cost-effective PATA drive you
> >>> can find and leave it at that... Ben Myers
>
> > One last question (I hope). Will ATA-133 work, or do I need ATA-100.
> > Newegg offers ATA drives too.
>
> ATA-133 will work with an older controller incapable of running at
> faster speeds. *The 4500 with the Intel 845 chipset will run an ATA-133
> drive at full rated speed... Ben

Thanks to everyone!

Just ordered from newegg for $69.99, free shipping, an oem:

HITACHI Deskstar P7K500 HDP725050GLAT80 (0A35397) 500GB 7200 RPM 8MB
Cache IDE Ultra ATA133 3.5"

Christopher Muto wrote:
> just made sure that you have a 80 wire ide (ata) ribbon cable between the
> motherboard and the drive. i can't recall what came with the 4500 but it is
> probably 80 wire as opposed to the older 40 wire type. you can actually
> count the lines in the ribbon cable to know for sure, but the 80 wire is
> very fine and practically. i mention this since you bought the oem drive
> and that does not come with any cable. ata133 drives can be finicky about
> the cable. otherwise it should work just fine.
>
> "yirg.kenya" <> wrote in message
> news:2b12cfb4-1163-4df1-957a-...
> On Oct 22, 11:26 pm, "yirg.kenya" <yirg.ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks, everyone.
>>
>> All those ATA variations get me confused.
>>
>> Will an EIDE work? Pricewatch has a bunch of 500GB drives listed under
>> Ultra but a number say EIDE. My reading said that Ultra refers to the
>> dma transfer.
>>
>> On Oct 22, 8:38 pm, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>> yirg.kenya wrote:
>>>> I have an old Dimension 4500 that I'm going to convert to a linux box.
>>>> I want to buy a new 1 TB drive for it.
>>>> Here's the problem: I don't know whether it's a SATA or ATA interface.
>>>> Does anyone know?
>>>> If it's ATA should/could I get a SATA card and run a SATA drive off of
>>>> it.
>>>> I need to old drive, emoved it from the computer a couple of months
>>>> ago, and can't find it now (naturally), though maybe I can look
>>>> harder. The cable is still in place.
>>>> Thanks.
>>> The Dimension 4500 (and 4550) have only two PATA connectors.
>>> The largest PATA drive I have seen is 400GB. Maybe they went up to
>>> 500GB, but I doubt much larger.
>>> My suggestion is to buy the largest most cost-effective PATA drive you
>>> can find and leave it at that... Ben Myers
>
> One last question (I hope). Will ATA-133 work, or do I need ATA-100.
> Newegg offers ATA drives too.
>
>
Original Dimension 4500 primary ATA cable would be 80-pin, which also
prefers a cable select jumper setting... Ben Myers