Existance of a Simple Serial Shell?

Anyone know of a simple shell that can be run over a serial port for
doing file access on a windows host? I just need to do file copies and
list directories, delete files.
T Marchini

Anthony Marchini wrote:
> Anyone know of a simple shell that can be run over a serial port for
> doing file access on a windows host? I just need to do file copies and
> list directories, delete files.
> T Marchini
>
Maybe I should just bite the bullet and write one.
Sometimes, I just try to take the easy way out of habbit.
T.

Anthony Marchini <> wrote:
> Anyone know of a simple shell that can be run over a serial port for
> doing file access on a windows host? I just need to do file copies and
> list directories, delete files.

A pair of Kermits should do.

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"Anthony Marchini" <> wrote in message
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> Anthony Marchini wrote:
> > Anyone know of a simple shell that can be run over a serial port for
> > doing file access on a windows host? I just need to do file copies and
> > list directories, delete files.
> > T Marchini
> >
> Maybe I should just bite the bullet and write one.
> Sometimes, I just try to take the easy way out of habbit.
> T.

You should be able to get the source to something like telnet from one of
the Linux distros. Would that work for you?

Norm

On 2004-11-11, Norm Dresner <> wrote:

>>> Anyone know of a simple shell that can be run over a serial port for
>>> doing file access on a windows host? I just need to do file copies and
>>> list directories, delete files.
>>
>> Maybe I should just bite the bullet and write one.
>> Sometimes, I just try to take the easy way out of habbit.
>
> You should be able to get the source to something like telnet from one of
> the Linux distros. Would that work for you?

Huh? Telnet isn't a shell. It's a TCP protocol handler. He
doesn't want to communication via TCP, he wants to communicate
via a serial port.

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"Grant Edwards" <> wrote in message
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> On 2004-11-11, Norm Dresner <> wrote:
>
> >>> Anyone know of a simple shell that can be run over a serial port for
> >>> doing file access on a windows host? I just need to do file copies and
> >>> list directories, delete files.
> >>
> >> Maybe I should just bite the bullet and write one.
> >> Sometimes, I just try to take the easy way out of habbit.
> >
> > You should be able to get the source to something like telnet from one
of
> > the Linux distros. Would that work for you?
>
> Huh? Telnet isn't a shell. It's a TCP protocol handler. He
> doesn't want to communication via TCP, he wants to communicate
> via a serial port.

How come I can remember sitting at a serial terminal and typing "telnet" to
use a computer at the other end? It can't be just age ;-))

Norm

On 2004-11-12, Norm Dresner <> wrote:

>>>>> Anyone know of a simple shell that can be run over a serial
>>>>> port for doing file access on a windows host? I just need to
>>>>> do file copies and list directories, delete files.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I should just bite the bullet and write one. Sometimes,
>>>> I just try to take the easy way out of habbit.
>>>
>>> You should be able to get the source to something like telnet
>>> from one of the Linux distros. Would that work for you?
>>
>> Huh? Telnet isn't a shell. It's a TCP protocol handler. He
>> doesn't want to communication via TCP, he wants to communicate
>> via a serial port.
>
> How come I can remember sitting at a serial terminal and
> typing "telnet" to use a computer at the other end?

I'll say it again: the "telnet" program is not a shell.

Telnet just opens a TCP/IP connection to a telnet daemon on the
computer at the other end. The telnet daemon then allocates a
pty pair and starts a shell progam (e.g. bash, sh, ksh, csh,
zsh) connected to the slave end of the pty pair.

The telnet program at your end just shovels bytes back and
forth between your terminal device (a tty or pty) and the
TCP/IP connection.

The telnet daemon at the other end shovels bytes back and forth
between the TCP/IP connection and the master end of the pty
pair (of which the slave end is connected to a shell program).

> It can't be just age ;-))

Whatever.

The telnet program has absolutely nothing to do with the
question at hand, and looking at it's sources would be useless.

The OP is looking for a simple shell to use via a serial port.
Telnet is neither a shell nor a serial communications program.

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> The telnet program has absolutely nothing to do with the
> question at hand, and looking at it's sources would be useless.
>
> The OP is looking for a simple shell to use via a serial port.
> Telnet is neither a shell nor a serial communications program.
>

Right, what I wanted to do was have a serial terminal connect up to a
WinCE embedded device and just spew a prompt that you could fire a quick
Dir and copy and delete command into and it would do just that.
Nothing fancy, no encryption, no tcp/ip just a shell.
I should just write a shell, it isn't really that hard , I just wanted
to not waste the time.
Tony

Norm Dresner <> wrote:
> How come I can remember sitting at a serial terminal and typing "telnet" to
> use a computer at the other end? It can't be just age ;-))
>
> Norm
>
I'm doing that right now.

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Wing wrote:
> Norm Dresner <> wrote:
>
>>How come I can remember sitting at a serial terminal and typing "telnet" to
>>use a computer at the other end? It can't be just age ;-))
>>
>
> I'm doing that right now.

Sure. So do a lot of us, but don't confuse the pipe with the water that
flows through it! As Grant Edwards correctly pointed out, telnet isn't
a shell. You can telnet to port 80, for example, and type "GET" and
you'll get an HTML web page. That doesn't make telnet a web server!
It's just a means by which data is transported. To put in terms of the
analogy, telnet's the pipe, and the shell's I/O is the water.

Ed