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Mike Mella
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      10-27-2003, 05:45 PM


I had two Macs (OS 9) both networked to a server that has lots of
files stored on it. One of the Macs was just taken to a dealer and
upgraded to OS X Jaguar. I've since set it up where it was before,
and reconnected all the cables. Now I'm trying to get the one with OS
X to see the server again.

It seems to see the printer that is connected through the server, but
I'm not sure how to get it to see the server itself.

When it had OS 9, an icon would show up on the desktop labeled
"Storrage Array." I could open that and access the files on the
server.

Is there a simple way to get Mac OS X to detect networked computers?

Thanks.
--Mella
 
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Michelle Steiner
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      10-27-2003, 07:01 PM
In article <BBC2B01F.260CA% .com>,
Gnarlodious <> wrote:

> Apparently the Panther "Connect to Server" window does not now search for
> other machines, I have succeeded by manually typing the IP number in the
> window, but machine names seem to be out of the picture..
> Hope this gets fixed soon.


Click the Browse button in the Connect To Server dialog; it will open
the Network window in the Finder; you should find all the connected
servers there.

There's also a "Recent Servers" button/popup-menu; it's the clock icon
to the right of the plus button/icon in the top right corner of the
window.

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Matt Ruben
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      10-27-2003, 09:30 PM
In article <stevewjackson->,
"Steve W. Jackson" <> wrote:

> In article <BBC2B01F.260CA% .com>,
> Gnarlodious <> wrote:
>
> :> Entity Mike Mella spoke thus:
> :>
> :> > Is there a simple way to get Mac OS X to detect networked computers?
> :> Apparently the Panther "Connect to Server" window does not now search for
> :> other machines, I have succeeded by manually typing the IP number in the
> :> window, but machine names seem to be out of the picture..
> :> Hope this gets fixed soon.
> :>
> :> --Gnarlie
> :>
>
> Mine does. I click the Browse button and it shows me the other systems
> here I can connect to.


I use my OS X computer to connect to a couple of older Macs on my
ethernet network. One runs 8.1, while the other runs 8.1, 8.6 or 9.2.2,
depending on my mood. Panther connects to them just as well as Jaguar
did, BUT, in Panther none of these machines shows up in the Servers
folder/alias when I try to browse for them using the Network icon in the
sidebar of Finder windows. The Mac Help system makes cryptic reference
to the fact that you can use command-K (Connect to Server...) to
manually connect IF it doesn't show up in the browser, but it doesn't
say WHY a machine wouldn't show up in the browser.

Seems goofy to me. Anyone have any ideas? Is this something to do with
the persistence of AFP flakiness in this new version of OS X?

Matt
 
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Mike Newman
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      10-27-2003, 10:11 PM
"Steve W. Jackson" <> wrote in message news:<stevewjackson->...
> In article < >,
> (Mike Mella) wrote:
>
> :> I had two Macs (OS 9) both networked to a server that has lots of
> :> files stored on it. One of the Macs was just taken to a dealer and
> :> upgraded to OS X Jaguar. I've since set it up where it was before,
> :> and reconnected all the cables. Now I'm trying to get the one with OS
> :> X to see the server again.
> :>
> :> It seems to see the printer that is connected through the server, but
> :> I'm not sure how to get it to see the server itself.
> :>
> :> When it had OS 9, an icon would show up on the desktop labeled
> :> "Storrage Array." I could open that and access the files on the
> :> server.
> :>
> :> Is there a simple way to get Mac OS X to detect networked computers?
> :>
> :> Thanks.
> :> --Mella
>
> Yep. Turn it on. It detects them. :-)
>
> More to the point, there's no system to "detect" if you don't go looking
> for them. You have to set the system in question to support sharing of
> some resources, and then to see it you have to use the Connect To Server
> command on the Finder's Go menu.


The problem is that this doesn't work very well. A friend of mine has
a TiBook which he brings to an office with half a dozen networked
Windoze machines. All of these machines are set up identically and are
in the same workgroup. Under 10.2 his Mac could browse exactly one of
these machines, even though all the Win machines can browse each
other. Under 10.3 his Mac can browse exactly none of the Windoze
machines.

Under 10.2 SMB browsing was hit or miss. Under 10.3 it is completely
broken.
 
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Matt Ruben
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      10-27-2003, 11:30 PM
In article <stevewjackson->,
"Steve W. Jackson" <> wrote:

> In article <mruben->,
> Matt Ruben <> wrote:
>
> :> In article <stevewjackson->,
> :> "Steve W. Jackson" <> wrote:
> :>
> :> > In article <BBC2B01F.260CA% .com>,
> :> > Gnarlodious <> wrote:
> :> >
> :> > :> Entity Mike Mella spoke thus:
> :> > :>
> :> > :> > Is there a simple way to get Mac OS X to detect networked computers?
> :> > :> Apparently the Panther "Connect to Server" window does not now search
> :> > :> for
> :> > :> other machines, I have succeeded by manually typing the IP number in
> :> > :> the
> :> > :> window, but machine names seem to be out of the picture..
> :> > :> Hope this gets fixed soon.
> :> > :>
> :> > :> --Gnarlie
> :> > :>
> :> >
> :> > Mine does. I click the Browse button and it shows me the other systems
> :> > here I can connect to.
> :>
> :> I use my OS X computer to connect to a couple of older Macs on my
> :> ethernet network. One runs 8.1, while the other runs 8.1, 8.6 or 9.2.2,
> :> depending on my mood. Panther connects to them just as well as Jaguar
> :> did, BUT, in Panther none of these machines shows up in the Servers
> :> folder/alias when I try to browse for them using the Network icon in the
> :> sidebar of Finder windows. The Mac Help system makes cryptic reference
> :> to the fact that you can use command-K (Connect to Server...) to
> :> manually connect IF it doesn't show up in the browser, but it doesn't
> :> say WHY a machine wouldn't show up in the browser.
> :>
> :> Seems goofy to me. Anyone have any ideas? Is this something to do with
> :> the persistence of AFP flakiness in this new version of OS X?
> :>
> :> Matt
>
> That could be not having AppleTalk turned on, since those 8.x systems
> only know how to use it for FileSharing. OS 9 is capable of doing
> FileSharing via TCP/IP.
>
> = Steve =


Thanks for the reply, Steve. I initially thought it was AppleTalk too,
but I just went into the Network PrefPane and confirmed that AppleTalk
is enabled on my OS X. Machine.

On a related note, I started up my multi-boot machine in 9.2.2 (in which
I have File Sharing set up to operate via TCP/IP), and it does indeed
show up in the Network browser in the Finder. So that works -- good to
know.

I suppose it's possible that AppleTalk shares can't be auto-detected in
OS X, but that seems a bit weird. Hmm...

Matt
 
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