Getting USB2 to work with Windows'98 ..... How?

Hi!
I am using an Asus motherboard (P4S533-E) which
uses the "SiS" chipset ... ( 845DX -North Bridge ) and
( 962/L -South Bridge ). This Mobo supports USB2
in Win-XP but the drivers for Windows'98 were not
provided.
Are there any "universal" USB2 drivers I could try?
Thanks for any suggestions or links .....

On Wed, 16 May 2007 18:20:15 +0800, Ron <>
wrote:

>
>Hi!
>I am using an Asus motherboard (P4S533-E) which
>uses the "SiS" chipset ... ( 845DX -North Bridge ) and
>( 962/L -South Bridge ). This Mobo supports USB2
>in Win-XP but the drivers for Windows'98 were not
>provided.
>Are there any "universal" USB2 drivers I could try?
>Thanks for any suggestions or links .....

Stretching the memory back...but I think win98 with the SE pack
introduced usb2. Been a long time since I used win98SE, and when I
had it...I dont think I even had any USB devices then. Printers etc
still used LPT1 and mice on com ports

On Wed, 16 May 2007 18:20:15 +0800, Ron <>
wrote:

>
>Hi!
>I am using an Asus motherboard (P4S533-E) which
>uses the "SiS" chipset ... ( 845DX -North Bridge ) and
>( 962/L -South Bridge ). This Mobo supports USB2
>in Win-XP but the drivers for Windows'98 were not
>provided.
>Are there any "universal" USB2 drivers I could try?
>Thanks for any suggestions or links .....

Somewhere here might be able to help

http://www.msfn.org/board/USB_2_Win9...701.html&st=27

Looks like they have some drivers linked there

rmd wrote:
> On Wed, 16 May 2007 18:20:15 +0800, Ron <>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi!
>> I am using an Asus motherboard (P4S533-E) which
>> uses the "SiS" chipset ... ( 845DX -North Bridge ) and
>> ( 962/L -South Bridge ). This Mobo supports USB2
>> in Win-XP but the drivers for Windows'98 were not
>> provided.
>> Are there any "universal" USB2 drivers I could try?
>> Thanks for any suggestions or links .....
>
> Stretching the memory back...but I think win98 with the SE pack
> introduced usb2. Been a long time since I used win98SE, and when I
> had it...I dont think I even had any USB devices then. Printers etc
> still used LPT1 and mice on com ports

You are correct, rmd. USB2 is supported with Win98SE, not Win98. I'm
not sure if there was a pack you could install to make 98 into 98SE,
though. Perhaps some industrious person has done so, though. The link
you provided is a great place to start.

http://tinyurl.com/2h6e6f

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First, Win98SE and Win98 are two totally different OS'. There is no way
to make 98 into 98SE other than to do an "OS upgrade", which is as major
of an upgrade as 98SE to XP. Microsoft did sell a 98 to 98SE upgrade
disc for $15, but they were only sold direct, not via retail, they are
rare, and it was an "upgrade" like 98SE to XP, the entire OS was
replaced and reinstalled, lock, stock and barrel.

You certainly can buy a 98SE CD (upgrade or full product), but they have
gotten somewhat expensive. While the names are similar and 98 and 98SE
appear outwardly similar, internally the differences are quite
significant. For one thing, 98SE supports WDM model drivers, 98 (1st
edition) does not.

Second, USB 2 came out with Windows XP SP1; even the original version of
XP didn't support it (not to even mention 98, either 98 or 98SE). There
definitely is support for 98SE on SOME USB 2 PCI cards. I don't think
that there is anything that absolutely precludes such a card from
supporting 98, but in most cases USB 2 drivers are WDM model drivers and
therefore won't work on 98 (1st edition). There might be such a card,
but I haven't seen it.


RobV wrote:
> rmd wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 May 2007 18:20:15 +0800, Ron <>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>> I am using an Asus motherboard (P4S533-E) which
>>> uses the "SiS" chipset ... ( 845DX -North Bridge ) and
>>> ( 962/L -South Bridge ). This Mobo supports USB2
>>> in Win-XP but the drivers for Windows'98 were not
>>> provided.
>>> Are there any "universal" USB2 drivers I could try?
>>> Thanks for any suggestions or links .....
>> Stretching the memory back...but I think win98 with the SE pack
>> introduced usb2. Been a long time since I used win98SE, and when I
>> had it...I dont think I even had any USB devices then. Printers etc
>> still used LPT1 and mice on com ports
>
> You are correct, rmd. USB2 is supported with Win98SE, not Win98. I'm
> not sure if there was a pack you could install to make 98 into 98SE,
> though. Perhaps some industrious person has done so, though. The link
> you provided is a great place to start.
>
>

Barry Watzman wrote:
> First, Win98SE and Win98 are two totally different OS'. There is no
> way to make 98 into 98SE other than to do an "OS upgrade", which is
> as major of an upgrade as 98SE to XP. Microsoft did sell a 98 to
> 98SE upgrade disc for $15, but they were only sold direct, not via
> retail, they are rare, and it was an "upgrade" like 98SE to XP, the
> entire OS was replaced and reinstalled, lock, stock and barrel.
>
> You certainly can buy a 98SE CD (upgrade or full product), but they
> have gotten somewhat expensive. While the names are similar and 98
> and 98SE appear outwardly similar, internally the differences are
> quite significant. For one thing, 98SE supports WDM model drivers,
> 98 (1st edition) does not.
>
> Second, USB 2 came out with Windows XP SP1; even the original version
> of XP didn't support it (not to even mention 98, either 98 or 98SE).
> There definitely is support for 98SE on SOME USB 2 PCI cards. I
> don't think that there is anything that absolutely precludes such a
> card from supporting 98, but in most cases USB 2 drivers are WDM
> model drivers and therefore won't work on 98 (1st edition). There
> might be such a card, but I haven't seen it.

Thanks for the correction and additional info, Barry. It's just been
too long ago since I ran 98SE.

> RobV wrote:
>> rmd wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 May 2007 18:20:15 +0800, Ron <>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>> I am using an Asus motherboard (P4S533-E) which
>>>> uses the "SiS" chipset ... ( 845DX -North Bridge ) and
>>>> ( 962/L -South Bridge ). This Mobo supports USB2
>>>> in Win-XP but the drivers for Windows'98 were not
>>>> provided.
>>>> Are there any "universal" USB2 drivers I could try?
>>>> Thanks for any suggestions or links .....
>>> Stretching the memory back...but I think win98 with the SE pack
>>> introduced usb2. Been a long time since I used win98SE, and when I
>>> had it...I dont think I even had any USB devices then. Printers etc
>>> still used LPT1 and mice on com ports
>>
>> You are correct, rmd. USB2 is supported with Win98SE, not Win98. I'm
>> not sure if there was a pack you could install to make 98 into
>> 98SE, though. Perhaps some industrious person has done so, though.
>> The link you provided is a great place to start.

"Ron" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Hi!
> I am using an Asus motherboard (P4S533-E) which
> uses the "SiS" chipset ... ( 845DX -North Bridge ) and
> ( 962/L -South Bridge ). This Mobo supports USB2
> in Win-XP but the drivers for Windows'98 were not
> provided.
> Are there any "universal" USB2 drivers I could try?
> Thanks for any suggestions or links .....
On the Win98 versions supporting USB, support for USB2, _was entirely by
the card manufacturer_. Nothing 'universal' was ever provided for USB2, on
these OS versions. You _can_ get USB2 to work in some cases, but you are
totally dependant on manufacturer drivers. Your only 'shot' for getting
USB2 support with your system, would be to find a PCI USB2 card, for which
USB2 drivers were provided, and go with this.

Best Wishes

Ron wrote:
> Hi!
> I am using an Asus motherboard (P4S533-E) which
> uses the "SiS" chipset ... ( 845DX -North Bridge ) and
> ( 962/L -South Bridge ). This Mobo supports USB2
> in Win-XP but the drivers for Windows'98 were not
> provided.
> Are there any "universal" USB2 drivers I could try?
> Thanks for any suggestions or links .....
>
The drivers I needed were for the USB2 interface chip not for the PCI
bus (North and South bridge). In my case it was an ALI chip and I was
able to get the drivers from here
http://www.usbman.com/Drivers%20and%20Patches.htm