Heat from heatpipes probably damaged a memory chip.

Another theory/hypothesis which I am slighty worried about is the
following:

"Water vapor from the dust filters was blown towards the memory chips
and was blown into the memory chips which caused a short circuit".

Not so long ago I cleaned the pc-case dust filters while the pc was
running... I decided not to dry the dust filters thoroughly because a
kid on youtube also didn't try them thoroughly... I just made sure
most of the moisture was gone... just little bit of moisture was left.

So I wonder if it's possible for tiny little micro drupplets of water
to float through the air and kill a chip ?!?

To me this seems unlikely but reality is usually more strange than
fantasy !

One last theory/hypothesis which I already wrote about in the past is:
"pc is not grounded, and me touching pc causes static electricic
feedback into the pc, since motherboard(s) is/are known to have some
leakage, so reversed path seems plausible".

I will probably call an electrician to check out and change the power
sockets with "grounding power sockets"... I am curious if he will
discovery anything about the power sockets... like maybe no grounding
wire present

Bye,
Skybuck.

Skybuck wrote:

> Not so long ago I cleaned the pc-case dust filters while the pc was
> running... I decided not to dry the dust filters thoroughly because a
> kid on youtube also didn't try them thoroughly...

Is this guy for real? Or is this some kind of parody, like SPINALTAP?

Skybuck wrote:

> The Scythe Zipang is a top down cooler... which could mean it blew
> dust into the memory chips from above... and somehow that tiny little
> bit of dust caused a short circuit in the memory chip !

Not unless the computer was next to a busy metal lathe or milling
machine.

"Toolpackinmama" <> wrote in message
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> Skybuck wrote:
>
>> Not so long ago I cleaned the pc-case dust filters while the pc was
>> running... I decided not to dry the dust filters thoroughly because a
>> kid on youtube also didn't try them thoroughly...
>
> Is this guy for real? Or is this some kind of parody, like SPINALTAP?

Real, can't find the video of the kid...

But search for antec 1200 and you'll see plenty of people washing their dust
filters with water !

Makes ya wonder doesn't it !

Bye,
Skybuck.

"Norman Peelman" <> wrote in message
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> Skybuck Flying wrote:
>> "Toolpackinmama" <> wrote in message
>> news:hcjjn1$j0e$...
>>> Skybuck wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not so long ago I cleaned the pc-case dust filters while the pc was
>>>> running... I decided not to dry the dust filters thoroughly because a
>>>> kid on youtube also didn't try them thoroughly...
>>> Is this guy for real? Or is this some kind of parody, like SPINALTAP?
>>
>> Real, can't find the video of the kid...
>>
>> But search for antec 1200 and you'll see plenty of people washing their
>> dust filters with water !
>>
>> Makes ya wonder doesn't it !
>>
>> Bye,
>> Skybuck.
>
> Nothing wrong with that as long as you let them dry out.

But then one needs to wait... which is "down time"... and might be
unneccessary ?
(Also cleaning it dry takes more time and toiletpaper ! )

The real question is:

What happens if it's slightly wet/moisturish

Anybody know ? =D

Bye,
Skybuck =D

Skybuck Flying wrote:
> "Norman Peelman" <> wrote in message
> news:4aee4a70$0$5118$ g.com...
>> Skybuck Flying wrote:
>>> "Toolpackinmama" <> wrote in message
>>> news:hcjjn1$j0e$...
>>>> Skybuck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not so long ago I cleaned the pc-case dust filters while the pc was
>>>>> running... I decided not to dry the dust filters thoroughly because a
>>>>> kid on youtube also didn't try them thoroughly...
>>>> Is this guy for real? Or is this some kind of parody, like SPINALTAP?
>>> Real, can't find the video of the kid...
>>>
>>> But search for antec 1200 and you'll see plenty of people washing their
>>> dust filters with water !
>>>
>>> Makes ya wonder doesn't it !
>>>
>>> Bye,
>>> Skybuck.
>> Nothing wrong with that as long as you let them dry out.
>
> But then one needs to wait... which is "down time"... and might be
> unneccessary ?
> (Also cleaning it dry takes more time and toiletpaper ! )
>
> The real question is:
>
> What happens if it's slightly wet/moisturish
>
> Anybody know ? =D
>

Nothing. They have been using cleanable filters on computers since
before you were born and have never had a problem with moisture. You
have to remember that the air coming off a "damp" filter probably does
not have any more moisture than room air on a muggy day unless you are
in a clean room and then you wouldn't need the filters.

> Bye,
> Skybuck =D
>
>

"Norman Peelman" <> wrote in message
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> Skybuck Flying wrote:
>> "Norman Peelman" <> wrote in message
>> news:4aee4a70$0$5118$ g.com...
>>> Skybuck Flying wrote:
>>>> "Toolpackinmama" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:hcjjn1$j0e$...
>>>>> Skybuck wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not so long ago I cleaned the pc-case dust filters while the pc was
>>>>>> running... I decided not to dry the dust filters thoroughly because a
>>>>>> kid on youtube also didn't try them thoroughly...
>>>>> Is this guy for real? Or is this some kind of parody, like SPINALTAP?
>>>> Real, can't find the video of the kid...
>>>>
>>>> But search for antec 1200 and you'll see plenty of people washing their
>>>> dust filters with water !
>>>>
>>>> Makes ya wonder doesn't it !
>>>>
>>>> Bye,
>>>> Skybuck.
>>> Nothing wrong with that as long as you let them dry out.
>>
>> But then one needs to wait... which is "down time"... and might be
>> unneccessary ?
>> (Also cleaning it dry takes more time and toiletpaper ! )
>>
>> The real question is:
>>
>> What happens if it's slightly wet/moisturish
>>
>> Anybody know ? =D
>>
>> Bye,
>> Skybuck =D
>>
>>
>
> What happens if you just run the system without the dust filter on until
> it dries? Would it be so bad? Oh wait, why not get extra dust filters so
> you can rotate them out for cleaning...

I thought about the idea of extra dust filters... might be a nice idea for
antec in the future ! Why didn't they think of it !

I would still like to know the answer to my question:

What happens if the air in the room is moisterish... for example... suppose
I take a shower... and there is this gas burning near the pc... lot's of
gasses being burned and expelled into the air...

What will the effect of burned gas be on for example the asus motherboard
?!?

I am beginning to suspect that the asus motherboard in combination with
burned gasses, some moisture and heat... is corroding or so... ?!?

Bye,
Skybuck.

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:14:33 -0800, nobody > rearranged some electrons to
say:

> Zootal wrote:
>> "nobody >" <> wrote in message
>> news: m...
>>> Zootal wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mother boards and related equipment have environmental ratings that
>>>> tell you the maximum humidity and temperature they will tolerate.
>>>> Exceed that and you run the risk of condensation and corrosion.
>>>> Condensation on high frequency high impedance circuits can bring your
>>>> computer down right now, blammo, and stay down until it dries. Just
>>>> putting a finger across some of these traces will crash your
>>>> computer.
>>> You must be dealing with some awfully crappy motherboards with totally
>>> bare traces.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conformal_coating
>>>
>>>
>> Out there in the real world, it happens. Not every piece of electronic
>> equipment is a nice neat color coordinated motherboard with pretty
>> traces and an aesthetically pleasing design, not to mention your
>> "conformal coating".
>>
>>
>>
> Sorry,Zootal... I've been dealing with "real world" printed circuit
> boards a long time. I might even venture that I was possibly repairing
> them before you were born.
>
> I've repaired marine electronics from sunken boats, portable two-way
> radios found in sewers, pagers that went swimming in toilets, dispatch
> consoles that have had the "Pepsi Treatment" (lattes and mochas are
> worse..but "PT" is the generic term), and radio base stations doused in
> rat pee for years.
>
> I know what can happens from "exposure".
>
> Yes, early PC mobos were "bare-assed traces", but any reasonable mobo
> made in the last 10-15 years has some form of coating. Your "finger
> touch" doesn't fly.

Soldermask is not a conformal coating.

In article <ea080$4aeff753$d53372a9$ me.nl>, "Skybuck Flying" <> wrote:
>
>"Norman Peelman" <> wrote in message
>news:4aef6f7d$0$5660$ ng.com...
>> Skybuck Flying wrote:
>>> "Norman Peelman" <> wrote in message
>>> news:4aee4a70$0$5118$ g.com...
>>>> Skybuck Flying wrote:
>>>>> "Toolpackinmama" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hcjjn1$j0e$...
>>>>>> Skybuck wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not so long ago I cleaned the pc-case dust filters while the pc was
>>>>>>> running... I decided not to dry the dust filters thoroughly because a
>>>>>>> kid on youtube also didn't try them thoroughly...
>>>>>> Is this guy for real? Or is this some kind of parody, like SPINALTAP?
>>>>> Real, can't find the video of the kid...
>>>>>
>>>>> But search for antec 1200 and you'll see plenty of people washing their
>>>>> dust filters with water !
>>>>>
>>>>> Makes ya wonder doesn't it !
>>>>>
>>>>> Bye,
>>>>> Skybuck.
>>>> Nothing wrong with that as long as you let them dry out.
>>>
>>> But then one needs to wait... which is "down time"... and might be
>>> unneccessary ?
>>> (Also cleaning it dry takes more time and toiletpaper ! )
>>>
>>> The real question is:
>>>
>>> What happens if it's slightly wet/moisturish
>>>
>>> Anybody know ? =D
>>>
>>> Bye,
>>> Skybuck =D
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What happens if you just run the system without the dust filter on until
>> it dries? Would it be so bad? Oh wait, why not get extra dust filters so
>> you can rotate them out for cleaning...
>
>I thought about the idea of extra dust filters... might be a nice idea for
>antec in the future ! Why didn't they think of it !


Antec sells them as replacements. Go to their online store.



>
>I would still like to know the answer to my question:
>
>What happens if the air in the room is moisterish... for example... suppose
>I take a shower... and there is this gas burning near the pc... lot's of
>gasses being burned and expelled into the air...
>
>What will the effect of burned gas be on for example the asus motherboard
>?!?
>
>I am beginning to suspect that the asus motherboard in combination with
>burned gasses, some moisture and heat... is corroding or so... ?!?
>
>Bye,
> Skybuck.
>
>

On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:09:24 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<> wrote:

>
>"nobody >" wrote:
>>
>> david wrote:
>>
>> > Soldermask is not a conformal coating.
>>
>> True, but measure the resistance sometime.
>
>
> You do it, and get back to us with your data. A lot of people on
>sci.electronics.design know the facts, no matter what you beleive.

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