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      12-09-2004, 08:38 PM
I've just sat and watched the CPU temp hit 102deg within two minutes of
bootup, no wonder the box shut itself down during WinXP setup!! What
temp should it be running at? I've still got the top off at the moment
and sys temp is sitting at 30deg.

This one has been a bit of a problem build for me. It's my sixth Shuttle
build and the only one I've ever had a single problem with. The CPU in
use is a 3.2 Athlon64.

What's the deal with thermal paste application on the 64s? I think my
initial bootup failures were due to too much, as I skimmed the processor
applied more sparingly and re-fitted everything again and it booted up
no problem. Could the problem now be too little?!

Thanks for any help.
Steve

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      12-10-2004, 10:05 AM
102 degrees Celcius? Wow... Yeah, that is quite a bit, even for an
Athlon...
And as to how to apply the paste... RTFM...
(it's pretty clear in the Shuttle manual.)

http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_s...structions.htm also contains
usable info.

Regards,
Evert



Netman wrote:
> I've just sat and watched the CPU temp hit 102deg within two minutes of
> bootup, no wonder the box shut itself down during WinXP setup!! What
> temp should it be running at? I've still got the top off at the moment
> and sys temp is sitting at 30deg.
>
> This one has been a bit of a problem build for me. It's my sixth Shuttle
> build and the only one I've ever had a single problem with. The CPU in
> use is a 3.2 Athlon64.
>
> What's the deal with thermal paste application on the 64s? I think my
> initial bootup failures were due to too much, as I skimmed the processor
> applied more sparingly and re-fitted everything again and it booted up
> no problem. Could the problem now be too little?!
>
> Thanks for any help.
> Steve
>
> [email: REMOVE THE SPAMTRAP]

 
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      12-13-2004, 07:21 PM
> Netman wrote:
>
>> I've just sat and watched the CPU temp hit 102deg within two minutes
>> of bootup, no wonder the box shut itself down during WinXP setup!!
>> What temp should it be running at? I've still got the top off at the
>> moment and sys temp is sitting at 30deg.
>>
>> This one has been a bit of a problem build for me. It's my sixth
>> Shuttle build and the only one I've ever had a single problem with.
>> The CPU in use is a 3.2 Athlon64.
>>
>> What's the deal with thermal paste application on the 64s? I think my
>> initial bootup failures were due to too much, as I skimmed the
>> processor applied more sparingly and re-fitted everything again and it
>> booted up no problem. Could the problem now be too little?!
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>> Steve
>>
>> [email: REMOVE THE SPAMTRAP]

Evert Meulie wrote:

> 102 degrees Celcius? Wow... Yeah, that is quite a bit, even for an
> Athlon...
> And as to how to apply the paste... RTFM...
> (it's pretty clear in the Shuttle manual.)
>
> http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm also contains
> usable info.
>
> Regards,
> Evert


Yeah, well the manual was of no use at all - following that resulted in
the Shuttle not starting! As I have a few Shuttle builds under my belt
and am capable of applying paste properly to countless other systems, I
thought something else may be at fault :-)

Steve
 
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Christo
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      12-14-2004, 07:06 PM

"Netman " <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I've just sat and watched the CPU temp hit 102deg within two minutes of
> bootup, no wonder the box shut itself down during WinXP setup!! What temp
> should it be running at? I've still got the top off at the moment and sys
> temp is sitting at 30deg.
>
> This one has been a bit of a problem build for me. It's my sixth Shuttle
> build and the only one I've ever had a single problem with. The CPU in use
> is a 3.2 Athlon64.
>
> What's the deal with thermal paste application on the 64s? I think my
> initial bootup failures were due to too much, as I skimmed the processor
> applied more sparingly and re-fitted everything again and it booted up no
> problem. Could the problem now be too little?!
>
> Thanks for any help.
> Steve
>
> [email: REMOVE THE SPAMTRAP]


normal Athlon 64 temp in a normal system should probs be about 45 C - 50 C
you can get it lower with the right heatsink, 35 C etc

silly i know but little things make a dif, check the fan is spinning... lol

as for the thermal paste, just a very thin layer, it probably isnt the
problem though

maybe the processor is DoA, or maybe even the board is bust, one other thing
might be the power supply, i am no shuttle expert pro but i know they dont
come with very high rated PSU's (220w - 350w) i would say you will need a
very good quality 350w at least to run A64, be safer with 400w

not sure about the temp though, how are you monitoring it? a panel with
display and thermal sensor or through BIOS?


 
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      12-15-2004, 08:18 PM

"Christo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Netman " <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:41b8b7b0$0$9333$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I've just sat and watched the CPU temp hit 102deg within two minutes of
> > bootup, no wonder the box shut itself down during WinXP setup!! What

temp
> > should it be running at? I've still got the top off at the moment and

sys
> > temp is sitting at 30deg.
> >
> > This one has been a bit of a problem build for me. It's my sixth Shuttle
> > build and the only one I've ever had a single problem with. The CPU in

use
> > is a 3.2 Athlon64.
> >
> > What's the deal with thermal paste application on the 64s? I think my
> > initial bootup failures were due to too much, as I skimmed the processor
> > applied more sparingly and re-fitted everything again and it booted up

no
> > problem. Could the problem now be too little?!
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> > Steve
> >
> > [email: REMOVE THE SPAMTRAP]

>
> normal Athlon 64 temp in a normal system should probs be about 45 C - 50 C
> you can get it lower with the right heatsink, 35 C etc
>
> silly i know but little things make a dif, check the fan is spinning...

lol
>
> as for the thermal paste, just a very thin layer, it probably isnt the
> problem though
>
> maybe the processor is DoA, or maybe even the board is bust, one other

thing
> might be the power supply, i am no shuttle expert pro but i know they dont
> come with very high rated PSU's (220w - 350w) i would say you will need a
> very good quality 350w at least to run A64, be safer with 400w
>
> not sure about the temp though, how are you monitoring it? a panel with
> display and thermal sensor or through BIOS?


Actually, not silly about the fan... my SN85G4V2's ICE module fan just
failed a few weeks ago; the machine is only 5 mos. old.
I, too, have an A64 3200+.

Maybe there's been a string of bad fans or something...

-Jonathan


 
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      12-17-2004, 12:22 AM

"Jonathan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Christo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> "Netman " <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:41b8b7b0$0$9333$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > I've just sat and watched the CPU temp hit 102deg within two minutes of
>> > bootup, no wonder the box shut itself down during WinXP setup!! What

> temp
>> > should it be running at? I've still got the top off at the moment and

> sys
>> > temp is sitting at 30deg.
>> >
>> > This one has been a bit of a problem build for me. It's my sixth
>> > Shuttle
>> > build and the only one I've ever had a single problem with. The CPU in

> use
>> > is a 3.2 Athlon64.
>> >
>> > What's the deal with thermal paste application on the 64s? I think my
>> > initial bootup failures were due to too much, as I skimmed the
>> > processor
>> > applied more sparingly and re-fitted everything again and it booted up

> no
>> > problem. Could the problem now be too little?!
>> >
>> > Thanks for any help.
>> > Steve
>> >
>> > [email: REMOVE THE SPAMTRAP]

>>
>> normal Athlon 64 temp in a normal system should probs be about 45 C - 50
>> C
>> you can get it lower with the right heatsink, 35 C etc
>>
>> silly i know but little things make a dif, check the fan is spinning...

> lol
>>
>> as for the thermal paste, just a very thin layer, it probably isnt the
>> problem though
>>
>> maybe the processor is DoA, or maybe even the board is bust, one other

> thing
>> might be the power supply, i am no shuttle expert pro but i know they
>> dont
>> come with very high rated PSU's (220w - 350w) i would say you will need a
>> very good quality 350w at least to run A64, be safer with 400w
>>
>> not sure about the temp though, how are you monitoring it? a panel with
>> display and thermal sensor or through BIOS?

>
> Actually, not silly about the fan... my SN85G4V2's ICE module fan just
> failed a few weeks ago; the machine is only 5 mos. old.
> I, too, have an A64 3200+.
>
> Maybe there's been a string of bad fans or something...
>
> -Jonathan
>
>


i bet it got REAL hot when that happened, i wouldnt like to be you right
now, A64's aren't cheap and if it was left for a long time... new processor


 
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