Help with Abit Motherboard

Hey, this is the first time i am building a machine and i have
encountered a problem. I'm not entirely sure if it is a problem with
the motherboard or something else, but i figured someone might know.
Here's what happened.:
I built the computer. Double checked all the wirings, etc and i
thought everything was good to go. Only problem i ran into while
putting things together was that the wires from my case (status
switches and LED lights) were not labeled so i didnt know which
side/wire was pos and which was negative. After fiddleing around with
it for awile, i figured it out (i think) and the machine booted up.
I went to my bios screen and entered all my info. I set the POWER ON
function to password and set that. It required a reboot which i did.
Then, i lifted my computer from it's side to the upright position and
in doing so the computer shut off. Now, when i hit the power button,
it will not boot up.
I have a couple ideas comments.
1) i dont think it is the power supply, since the power status
indicator on the motherboard is on.
2) since i changed the POWER ON function on the bios, does the power
button no longer work? If so, how do i turn on my computer? I
thought this might be the problem so i set my CMOS to clear and tried
rebooting and that did nothing either.
3) Could there be a static build up from moving the computer while it
was on? If so, could the motherboard be damaged and still have the
power light on? I figured if the Mobo was damaged, then that light
would be off.
4) Could my fiddling with the status switches and LED lights have
damaged the power button or the mobo in some way?
Thats really all I got. Any help would be really really appreciated
as I dont know what is wrong at all please please email me at
if you have any ideas. I hope i elaberated
everything well enough, like i said, this is my first time.
Thanks again
Levi

Your situation doesn't look good. Have you tried removing the motherboard
from the case, placing it on a non conductive surface, removing and
replacing your CPU, RAM and video card, then powering up with the
motherboard outside the case? With any luck you may just have a short
preventing your system from booting up, if not a short during the move of
your system could have burnt something out.
There are some very good trouble shooting tip sites around. Simply type
"troubleshooting hardware into google.
Good luck.

What I see from flipping it from the side to upright is a short of some
kind. Did you try flipping back to the side to see if it would boot that way?
You can't hurt a power switch by wiring it wrong and it can't be connected
wrong. LED's won't get hurt wiring the wrong way either they just won't work
connected the wrong way. I suggest pulling all the case connections off.
Checking everything else such as pci cards, video card, hard drive connections,
CPU, memory....power connections etc. Then connect only the powerswitch and try
again to boot. Also taking the motherboard out of the case can be a pain, but
its a good way to test for shorts, if your very careful. You don't need to use
the power switch...just use a flat tip screwdriver and touch ONLY the
powerconnection pins to boot the motherboard if the wires won't reach with the
motheboard out of the case.

Now I may have got completely the wrong end of the stick, but you say you
set it to power on with a password. My mate has his PC set up so it only
turns on when he types the password on the keyboard. If it disables the
power switch when set up like this, it would be the problem. If you can't
remember the password then clearing the CMOS should reset it all.

"Ender" <> wrote in message
news: om...
> Hey, this is the first time i am building a machine and i have
> encountered a problem. I'm not entirely sure if it is a problem with
> the motherboard or something else, but i figured someone might know.
> Here's what happened.:
> I built the computer. Double checked all the wirings, etc and i
> thought everything was good to go. Only problem i ran into while
> putting things together was that the wires from my case (status
> switches and LED lights) were not labeled so i didnt know which
> side/wire was pos and which was negative. After fiddleing around with
> it for awile, i figured it out (i think) and the machine booted up.
> I went to my bios screen and entered all my info. I set the POWER ON
> function to password and set that. It required a reboot which i did.
> Then, i lifted my computer from it's side to the upright position and
> in doing so the computer shut off. Now, when i hit the power button,
> it will not boot up.
> I have a couple ideas comments.
> 1) i dont think it is the power supply, since the power status
> indicator on the motherboard is on.
> 2) since i changed the POWER ON function on the bios, does the power
> button no longer work? If so, how do i turn on my computer? I
> thought this might be the problem so i set my CMOS to clear and tried
> rebooting and that did nothing either.
> 3) Could there be a static build up from moving the computer while it
> was on? If so, could the motherboard be damaged and still have the
> power light on? I figured if the Mobo was damaged, then that light
> would be off.
> 4) Could my fiddling with the status switches and LED lights have
> damaged the power button or the mobo in some way?
> Thats really all I got. Any help would be really really appreciated
> as I dont know what is wrong at all please please email me at
> if you have any ideas. I hope i elaberated
> everything well enough, like i said, this is my first time.
> Thanks again
> Levi

There is some confusion here. Setting a password in BIOS will not prevent a
system from powering up. If a password is set the system powers up but will
not post until it is entered. I still think that you need to bite the bullet
and to try powering up a minimal system with the mobo out of the case.
That's my last thought on this.

In reply to Sulphuric Acid, the PC can be set to boot by typing a password,
or at a certain time, and not by power button.
Before stripping down, which I agree may be necessary eventually, I might
recommend ensuring the CMOS is fully cleared, leaving the jumper in the
clear position with the power disconnected for something like a minute. I
know that I had a problem where my old KT7A wouldn't boot (for no
particular reason, like I hadn't moved the case, or changed anything in BIOS
or software wise) and I tried everything loads of times, inc many attempts
at clearing CMOS normal way and each time absolutely zip happened. Properly
cleared it as advised and it just booted normally. I don't get it, but try
it. Probably not the answer but I like the simple solutions first.
Will keep my fingers crossed for yous.

Mike

"Ender" <> wrote in message
news: om...
> Hey, this is the first time i am building a machine and i have
> encountered a problem. I'm not entirely sure if it is a problem with
> the motherboard or something else, but i figured someone might know.
> Here's what happened.:
> I built the computer. Double checked all the wirings, etc and i
> thought everything was good to go. Only problem i ran into while
> putting things together was that the wires from my case (status
> switches and LED lights) were not labeled so i didnt know which
> side/wire was pos and which was negative. After fiddleing around with
> it for awile, i figured it out (i think) and the machine booted up.
> I went to my bios screen and entered all my info. I set the POWER ON
> function to password and set that. It required a reboot which i did.
> Then, i lifted my computer from it's side to the upright position and
> in doing so the computer shut off. Now, when i hit the power button,
> it will not boot up.
> I have a couple ideas comments.
> 1) i dont think it is the power supply, since the power status
> indicator on the motherboard is on.
> 2) since i changed the POWER ON function on the bios, does the power
> button no longer work? If so, how do i turn on my computer? I
> thought this might be the problem so i set my CMOS to clear and tried
> rebooting and that did nothing either.
> 3) Could there be a static build up from moving the computer while it
> was on? If so, could the motherboard be damaged and still have the
> power light on? I figured if the Mobo was damaged, then that light
> would be off.
> 4) Could my fiddling with the status switches and LED lights have
> damaged the power button or the mobo in some way?
> Thats really all I got. Any help would be really really appreciated
> as I dont know what is wrong at all please please email me at
> if you have any ideas. I hope i elaberated
> everything well enough, like i said, this is my first time.
> Thanks again
> Levi

ok, i did as follows and i isolated the problem. please dont laugh
when i say this, but the power cable that went from my power supply to
my mobo was in backwards. Upon realizing this and switching it, all
that was required was to clear the CMOS, put it all back in the
computer, and reboot.
However, i do have another problem. When i boot it up, I am getting
an error buzzer noise, which is two alternating tones, one high and
one low. It starts a couple seconds after booting up and continues
for a long while. I remember reading that this could be indicitive of
bad RAM so i am going to try switching that and seeing if anything
changes. However, when booting up, i didn't get any message about bad
RAM or anything (which i have gotten in the past on previous machines
that had bad RAM). I was wondering if you knew anything else this
could be?

"h2so4" <> wrote in message news:<451Oa.735$>...
> There is some confusion here. Setting a password in BIOS will not prevent a
> system from powering up. If a password is set the system powers up but will
> not post until it is entered. I still think that you need to bite the bullet
> and to try powering up a minimal system with the mobo out of the case.
> That's my last thought on this.

So as a recap, You booted the system up, set the "Power On" password in the
BIOS then uprighted the case causing an abnormal power down of the
motherboard but not the power supply.
After a little head scratching you realize the motherboard power connector
is connected backwards. You correct the connection and now the system works
except for a buzzer warning at initialization.

That the most amazing story I ever heard!


"Ender" <> wrote in message
news: m...
> ok, i did as follows and i isolated the problem. please dont laugh
> when i say this, but the power cable that went from my power supply to
> my mobo was in backwards. Upon realizing this and switching it, all
> that was required was to clear the CMOS, put it all back in the
> computer, and reboot.
> However, i do have another problem. When i boot it up, I am getting
> an error buzzer noise, which is two alternating tones, one high and
> one low. It starts a couple seconds after booting up and continues
> for a long while. I remember reading that this could be indicitive of
> bad RAM so i am going to try switching that and seeing if anything
> changes. However, when booting up, i didn't get any message about bad
> RAM or anything (which i have gotten in the past on previous machines
> that had bad RAM). I was wondering if you knew anything else this
> could be?
>
> "h2so4" <> wrote in message
news:<451Oa.735$>...
> > There is some confusion here. Setting a password in BIOS will not
prevent a
> > system from powering up. If a password is set the system powers up but
will
> > not post until it is entered. I still think that you need to bite the
bullet
> > and to try powering up a minimal system with the mobo out of the case.
> > That's my last thought on this.




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"Ender" <> wrote in message
news: m...
> ok, i did as follows and i isolated the problem. please dont laugh
> when i say this, but the power cable that went from my power supply to
> my mobo was in backwards. Upon realizing this and switching it, all
> that was required was to clear the CMOS, put it all back in the
> computer, and reboot.
> However, i do have another problem. When i boot it up, I am getting
> an error buzzer noise, which is two alternating tones, one high and
> one low. It starts a couple seconds after booting up and continues
> for a long while. I remember reading that this could be indicitive of
> bad RAM so i am going to try switching that and seeing if anything
> changes. However, when booting up, i didn't get any message about bad
> RAM or anything (which i have gotten in the past on previous machines
> that had bad RAM). I was wondering if you knew anything else this
> could be?
>
> "h2so4" <> wrote in message
news:<451Oa.735$>...
> > There is some confusion here. Setting a password in BIOS will not
prevent a
> > system from powering up. If a password is set the system powers up but
will
> > not post until it is entered. I still think that you need to bite the
bullet
> > and to try powering up a minimal system with the mobo out of the case.
> > That's my last thought on this.

"TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM-@cox.net> wrote in message
news:%lcOa.11463$...
> a two tone siren is either a temperature warning indicating an overheat
> condition or a voltage warning indicating a problem with a voltage.

Tom, don't some abits also do that if you have fan fail monitoring enabled
when either no fan is connected or no rpm header also? I seem to think my
BE7R does that.

regards,

Dion L Heap
www.thetophouse.com