Help Need To Switch S-video Out To Composite Video Out - RADEON 9200

hi, hope someone can help me with this one...

i have a radeon 9200 with tv out.. i'm using a s-video lead with
scart at the end to view my pc on my tv, IT'S ONLY BLACK AND WHITE !!!

so i tried the same lead on my girlfriends pc who has an nvidia gforce
card and it gave me the option to use s-video out or composite video
out in the settings. as soon as i changed from s-video out to
composite out there was colour..so that was my problem my ATI CARD!
apart from swapping cards with my girlfriend is there a way to tell my
radeon to use composite out instead of s-video out ????

(sonnie) wrote in message news:<. com>...
> hi, hope someone can help me with this one...
>
> i have a radeon 9200 with tv out.. i'm using a s-video lead with
> scart at the end to view my pc on my tv, IT'S ONLY BLACK AND WHITE !!!

What is scart? TV Out is S-Video? TV has S-Video In?

> so i tried the same lead on my girlfriends pc who has an nvidia gforce
> card and it gave me the option to use s-video out or composite video
> out in the settings.

GeForce has S-Video and Composite Out, or adapter?
> as soon as i changed from s-video out to
> composite out there was colour..

Correct, S-Video is only black and white. Just Kidding. You switched
from S-Video plug to Composite plug? Or switched software setting?

> so that was my problem my ATI CARD!
> apart from swapping cards with my girlfriend is there a way to tell my
> radeon to use composite out instead of s-video out ????

Swapping cards will not tell your Radeon anything.
Did you use the same TV for yours and your girlfriend's?
Please fill in the details above for a clearer picture... (pun)

Aaron

(sonnie) wrote in message news:<. com>...
> hi, hope someone can help me with this one...
>
> i have a radeon 9200 with tv out.. i'm using a s-video lead with
> scart at the end to view my pc on my tv, IT'S ONLY BLACK AND WHITE !!!
>
> so i tried the same lead on my girlfriends pc who has an nvidia gforce
> card and it gave me the option to use s-video out or composite video
> out in the settings. as soon as i changed from s-video out to
> composite out there was colour..so that was my problem my ATI CARD!
> apart from swapping cards with my girlfriend is there a way to tell my
> radeon to use composite out instead of s-video out ????



Scart must be a European thing...

We live in the UK. On the back of our TV's we have usually two
sockets, rectangular in shape with lots of holes, we use a scart lead
to link VCR's DVD players etc to the TV, the scart lead carries all
the info in just one lead, audio and video. We also have S-Video
sockets too; however some modern TV's have S-Video also built in to
the scart socket for even less wires.

Ok, I have a Radeon 9200se 128meg graphics card with S-Video (TV out)
My girlfriend has NVIDIA Gforce 4 64 Meg with S-Video (TV out)

When I plug my S-Video lead into my Radeon graphics card's S-Video
socket and the Scart at the other end into my TV I get Windows XP on
the TV but in black and white.

When I plug my S-Video lead into my girlfriends NVIDIA graphics card's
S-Video socket, and the Scart at the other end into my TV, I get
Windows XP on the TV also in black and white.

However, my girlfriends NVIDIA graphics card has an option that I can
select in the display settings to choose if I want to send out an
S-Video out signal or a Composite Video Out signal, if I select
S-Video Out its still black and white but If I select Composite Video
Out I get colour.

so my problem is, there is no option with my Radeon in any of my
display settings to select Composite Video Out, if there was I would
have colour... so it looks like unless I can find a way to change the
Video Out settings on the Radeon I will only be able to see black and
white, or, talk my girlfriend into giving up her precious gforce 4
that she has come to love!

(sonnie) wrote in message news:< om>...
> (sonnie) wrote in message news:<. com>...
> > hi, hope someone can help me with this one...
> >
> > i have a radeon 9200 with tv out.. i'm using a s-video lead with
> > scart at the end to view my pc on my tv, IT'S ONLY BLACK AND WHITE !!!
> >
> > so i tried the same lead on my girlfriends pc who has an nvidia gforce
> > card and it gave me the option to use s-video out or composite video
> > out in the settings. as soon as i changed from s-video out to
> > composite out there was colour..so that was my problem my ATI CARD!
> > apart from swapping cards with my girlfriend is there a way to tell my
> > radeon to use composite out instead of s-video out ????
>
>
>
> Scart must be a European thing...
>
> We live in the UK. On the back of our TV's we have usually two
> sockets, rectangular in shape with lots of holes, we use a scart lead
> to link VCR's DVD players etc to the TV, the scart lead carries all
> the info in just one lead, audio and video. We also have S-Video
> sockets too; however some modern TV's have S-Video also built in to
> the scart socket for even less wires.
>
> Ok, I have a Radeon 9200se 128meg graphics card with S-Video (TV out)
> My girlfriend has NVIDIA Gforce 4 64 Meg with S-Video (TV out)
>
> When I plug my S-Video lead into my Radeon graphics card's S-Video
> socket and the Scart at the other end into my TV I get Windows XP on
> the TV but in black and white.
>
> When I plug my S-Video lead into my girlfriends NVIDIA graphics card's
> S-Video socket, and the Scart at the other end into my TV, I get
> Windows XP on the TV also in black and white.
>
> However, my girlfriends NVIDIA graphics card has an option that I can
> select in the display settings to choose if I want to send out an
> S-Video out signal or a Composite Video Out signal, if I select
> S-Video Out its still black and white but If I select Composite Video
> Out I get colour.
>
> so my problem is, there is no option with my Radeon in any of my
> display settings to select Composite Video Out, if there was I would
> have colour... so it looks like unless I can find a way to change the
> Video Out settings on the Radeon I will only be able to see black and
> white, or, talk my girlfriend into giving up her precious gforce 4
> that she has come to love!

So it seems that when your cable gets f an s-video signal on an
s-video plug, and then converts it to scart, you get black and white.
But then, when you send a composite signal through a s-video plug into
scart, you get color. Is that correct?

If so, a possible workaround would be to get an s-video/composite
converter (little plug with s-video on one end, composite on the
other, I don't even know if they make those), plug the s-video end
into your radeon, and then use a composite to scart cable. However,
this requires you to buy an adapter ($20?) and a cable ($30?). For a
little more money, you could buy a decent graphics card with the
features you want. And you would know it would work (I'm not sure
about the adapter thing; it might not work).

One other thing: have you updated drivers (Catalyst, I believe)?

Aaron

(Aaron) wrote in message news:<. com>...
> (sonnie) wrote in message news:< om>...
> > (sonnie) wrote in message news:<. com>...
> > > hi, hope someone can help me with this one...
> > >
> > > i have a radeon 9200 with tv out.. i'm using a s-video lead with
> > > scart at the end to view my pc on my tv, IT'S ONLY BLACK AND WHITE !!!
> > >
> > > so i tried the same lead on my girlfriends pc who has an nvidia gforce
> > > card and it gave me the option to use s-video out or composite video
> > > out in the settings. as soon as i changed from s-video out to
> > > composite out there was colour..so that was my problem my ATI CARD!
> > > apart from swapping cards with my girlfriend is there a way to tell my
> > > radeon to use composite out instead of s-video out ????
> >
> > Thanks for your help.

I have sorted it out now, ATI give you svideo to composite lead with
the card, I found it in the box, so you were right. The signal has to
be converted to composite to get colour. S-video to S-video will just
create black and white, because ATI dont have software capabilities to
switch between output formats like NVIDEA have, they have had to
include a lead.

It just means more cables for me to use eg, ATI's S-video to composite
out lead going into a scart adapter, plus seperate left and right
audio leads, whereas my girlfriend has 1 s-video to scart lead with
built in left and right audio, but what the heck, if it works it
works.

Thanks for all your help

> >
> > Scart must be a European thing...
> >
> > We live in the UK. On the back of our TV's we have usually two
> > sockets, rectangular in shape with lots of holes, we use a scart lead
> > to link VCR's DVD players etc to the TV, the scart lead carries all
> > the info in just one lead, audio and video. We also have S-Video
> > sockets too; however some modern TV's have S-Video also built in to
> > the scart socket for even less wires.
> >
> > Ok, I have a Radeon 9200se 128meg graphics card with S-Video (TV out)
> > My girlfriend has NVIDIA Gforce 4 64 Meg with S-Video (TV out)
> >
> > When I plug my S-Video lead into my Radeon graphics card's S-Video
> > socket and the Scart at the other end into my TV I get Windows XP on
> > the TV but in black and white.
> >
> > When I plug my S-Video lead into my girlfriends NVIDIA graphics card's
> > S-Video socket, and the Scart at the other end into my TV, I get
> > Windows XP on the TV also in black and white.
> >
> > However, my girlfriends NVIDIA graphics card has an option that I can
> > select in the display settings to choose if I want to send out an
> > S-Video out signal or a Composite Video Out signal, if I select
> > S-Video Out its still black and white but If I select Composite Video
> > Out I get colour.
> >
> > so my problem is, there is no option with my Radeon in any of my
> > display settings to select Composite Video Out, if there was I would
> > have colour... so it looks like unless I can find a way to change the
> > Video Out settings on the Radeon I will only be able to see black and
> > white, or, talk my girlfriend into giving up her precious gforce 4
> > that she has come to love!
>
> So it seems that when your cable gets f an s-video signal on an
> s-video plug, and then converts it to scart, you get black and white.
> But then, when you send a composite signal through a s-video plug into
> scart, you get color. Is that correct?
>
> If so, a possible workaround would be to get an s-video/composite
> converter (little plug with s-video on one end, composite on the
> other, I don't even know if they make those), plug the s-video end
> into your radeon, and then use a composite to scart cable. However,
> this requires you to buy an adapter ($20?) and a cable ($30?). For a
> little more money, you could buy a decent graphics card with the
> features you want. And you would know it would work (I'm not sure
> about the adapter thing; it might not work).
>
> One other thing: have you updated drivers (Catalyst, I believe)?
>
> Aaron

(sonnie) wrote in message news:<. com>...
> I have sorted it out now, ATI give you svideo to composite lead with
> the card, I found it in the box, so you were right. The signal has to
> be converted to composite to get colour. S-video to S-video will just
> create black and white, because ATI dont have software capabilities to
> switch between output formats like NVIDEA have, they have had to
> include a lead.
>
> It just means more cables for me to use eg, ATI's S-video to composite
> out lead going into a scart adapter, plus seperate left and right
> audio leads, whereas my girlfriend has 1 s-video to scart lead with
> built in left and right audio, but what the heck, if it works it
> works.
>
> Thanks for all your help

Glad I could.

Aaron

Good afternoon,

I am having a very similar problem to that of the original poster,
though I am at a bit of a loss figuring it out. Just yesterday, I
switched from an Nvidia Ti-4200 card with S-video TV-out to a Radeon
9700 Pro, also w/ S-video out. My TV does not have S-video, so it was
hooked up to the Nvidia card through an S-video-composite converter
cable (I am in the states, NTSC format). Never did I have a problem
with color, and to my knowledge, I never had to set the driver to
output a composite signal, though it may have detected this in the
default setup. Using the exact same television and cable, I cannot
make the Radeon output color to the television. I've read several
fixes to the problem, including the one here, which says you must
convert the signal to composite from S-video. The problem is, I've
already done that, and I can verify that both my cable works and the
TV does support the conversion because it worked with the old card.
Is this primarily a driver issue with ATI, or has someone else ran
across this problem? I am hesitant to spend money on any new
hardware, because the old hardware definitely works, at least with my
old video card. Maybe the S-video out on the Radeon is 4-pin instead
of 7-pin, or vice versa. I am just fishing for ideas. It really is a
much better card, in terms of 3D performance, than my other, and I
don't want to switch back if at all possibility. Thanks in advance,
-Brian


(Aaron) wrote in message news:<. com>...
> (sonnie) wrote in message news:<. com>...
> > I have sorted it out now, ATI give you svideo to composite lead with
> > the card, I found it in the box, so you were right. The signal has to
> > be converted to composite to get colour. S-video to S-video will just
> > create black and white, because ATI dont have software capabilities to
> > switch between output formats like NVIDEA have, they have had to
> > include a lead.
> >
> > It just means more cables for me to use eg, ATI's S-video to composite
> > out lead going into a scart adapter, plus seperate left and right
> > audio leads, whereas my girlfriend has 1 s-video to scart lead with
> > built in left and right audio, but what the heck, if it works it
> > works.
> >
> > Thanks for all your help
>
> Glad I could.
>
> Aaron