HP 9000 Servers L1000 (2 CPU), L2000 (4 CPU)...

Hi,

anybody needing PA-RISC servers? We just replaced an L1000 and an L2000 with
IA64 servers. The PA-servers (rack-mounted) are in very good condition
(optically and mechanically) and are fully functional. We also have to spare
power supplies.

Any good offers?

Regards,
Ulrich

* Ulrich Windl:

> anybody needing PA-RISC servers? We just replaced an L1000 and an L2000 with
> IA64 servers. The PA-servers (rack-mounted) are in very good condition
> (optically and mechanically) and are fully functional. We also have to spare
> power supplies.

Just put them on ebay. You might get a few bucks for them there.
Otherwise just scrap them or give them away to a good home for free.

Benjamin

The PA-RISC servers are probably worth more dead than alive, or, to put it more
appropriately, sold off as parts rather than whole. The OP can do an eBay
search of completed items to find out which parts sell and which do not.

I've done fairly well selling off parts of older Dell servers on eBay. People
generally do not want to pay the high cost of shipping a whole computer, but the
cost of shipping individual parts is often very economical even across the pond.

.... Ben Myers

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:13:57 +0100, Benjamin Gawert <> wrote:

>* Ulrich Windl:
>
>> anybody needing PA-RISC servers? We just replaced an L1000 and an L2000 with
>> IA64 servers. The PA-servers (rack-mounted) are in very good condition
>> (optically and mechanically) and are fully functional. We also have to spare
>> power supplies.
>
>Just put them on ebay. You might get a few bucks for them there.
>Otherwise just scrap them or give them away to a good home for free.
>
>Benjamin

* Ben Myers:

> The PA-RISC servers are probably worth more dead than alive, or, to put it more
> appropriately, sold off as parts rather than whole. The OP can do an eBay
> search of completed items to find out which parts sell and which do not.
>
> I've done fairly well selling off parts of older Dell servers on eBay. People
> generally do not want to pay the high cost of shipping a whole computer, but the
> cost of shipping individual parts is often very economical even across the pond.

I doubt that even the parts are worth much (at least here in Germany) as
most resellers already have a shitload of these old machines in their
storage that they want to get rid of. There isn't much demand here, and
putting the parts on ebay probably only makes ebay happy.

I'd recommend he puts them in news:de.alt.folklore.computer as there are
enough hobbyists around that might be interested in one of these beasts.
Of course they won't pay a few hundred EUR for it ;-)

Benjamin

The dealers with warehouses full of these computers have their warehouses full
for exactly one reason. They are asking a small fortune for the spare parts,
and nobody wants to pay their price. It's the same with any other computer
equipment more than 5 or 6 years old, and it's the same here in the US, except
that government agencies with guaranteed support and backward IT groups will pay
the high price to keep old equipment running.

So the basic approach is to scan the completed auctions on eBay for what has
sold, and list similar or same stuff maybe even at slightly lower prices. Good
photos help sell almost anything. If a part or a chassis is not selling on
eBay, don't even try to sell it. Of course, if the eBay final price for an item
sold is only a EUR or two, it is probably not worth the bother. eBay is a good
litmus test for what sells and what does not sell, even if one does not end up
selling there... Ben Myers

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:52:02 +0100, Benjamin Gawert <> wrote:

>* Ben Myers:
>
>> The PA-RISC servers are probably worth more dead than alive, or, to put it more
>> appropriately, sold off as parts rather than whole. The OP can do an eBay
>> search of completed items to find out which parts sell and which do not.
>>
>> I've done fairly well selling off parts of older Dell servers on eBay. People
>> generally do not want to pay the high cost of shipping a whole computer, but the
>> cost of shipping individual parts is often very economical even across the pond.
>
>I doubt that even the parts are worth much (at least here in Germany) as
>most resellers already have a shitload of these old machines in their
>storage that they want to get rid of. There isn't much demand here, and
>putting the parts on ebay probably only makes ebay happy.
>
>I'd recommend he puts them in news:de.alt.folklore.computer as there are
>enough hobbyists around that might be interested in one of these beasts.
>Of course they won't pay a few hundred EUR for it ;-)
>
>Benjamin

* Ben Myers:

> The dealers with warehouses full of these computers have their warehouses full
> for exactly one reason. They are asking a small fortune for the spare parts,
> and nobody wants to pay their price. It's the same with any other computer
> equipment more than 5 or 6 years old, and it's the same here in the US, except
> that government agencies with guaranteed support and backward IT groups will pay
> the high price to keep old equipment running.

It's not quite the same over here. Most resellers here do know when they
are storing something that would better go into recycling, and storage
does cost them money. They often list riddiculous prices but if you call
them you'll see that the listed price is nothing but a number. Most
resellers like Epoka sell you spare parts for really good prices because
they know that no matter how much they reduce their stock, they still
have more than what's demanded by the market, and time is working
against them, too. And as you say, there always is ebay which is a big
competitor that lead to a severe price decrease in several cases (ok, in
other cases prices went up but that's life).

> eBay is a good
> litmus test for what sells and what does not sell, even if one does not end up
> selling there...

Indeed.

Benjamin

Ben Myers <> writes:

> The PA-RISC servers are probably worth more dead than alive, or, to put it
> more appropriately, sold off as parts rather than whole. The OP can do an
> eBay search of completed items to find out which parts sell and which do
> not.
[...]

May be. Nevertheless HP never made a successor of the same mechanical quality
than those. We never had a problem with those, but today's inefficient
programs need more and more CPU power. The rx series are more expensive PCs
than real servers (IMHO).

Ulrich