HP LaserJet 5 - printouts have vertical mark down the left margin - please help

Yes, I bought this printer (used) back in
August 2002. No problems really. All I need to do is
change the toner cartridge from time to time.
It might be worth it to get a maintenance kit and
replace some of the rollers/parts. But then,
do I want to fix what ain't broke?


"Tony" <> wrote in message
newsart1of1.1.x#uaDY$...
> I have not used their products but have only ever seen positive feedback. They
> provide full instructions.
> This printer is worth a bit of tender loving care.
> Tony
>
> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
> >How about the following Fusing Assembly Kit ...
> >http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/kits/hp/K22
> >
> >
> >"Ben Myers" <> wrote in message
> >news:.. .
> >> The PrinterWorks is well-regarded, but somewhat pricey, given the age and
> >> current value of the printer.
> >>
> >> You can inquire, but I doubt that HP stocks spares for the LaserJet 5, a
> >sturdy
> >> beast, but over 10 years old. (I know. I use one myself.)
> >>
> >> I sell LaserJet 5M (with PostScript) refurbs in good working order for $75.
> >This
> >> should allow you to determine how much you want to spend to fix your
> >printer...
> >> Ben Myers
> >>
> >> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:26:43 -0800, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"DaveG" <> wrote in message
> >> >news...
> >> >> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:04:29 +0000, Adam wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I tried opening the cover to find the problem but doing so stops the
> >> >> > printer from printing.
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, yeah, that happens. :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> The "trick" is to open the printer while the page is part way through,
eg
> >> >> under the OPC drum so you can check if the mark is evident there or
maybe
> >> >> happens later in the path.
> >> >>
> >> >> You can also check the OPS drum itself, the image will still be on the
> >> >> drum, to check if the mark is there, ie is the drum putting the mark on
> >> >> ther page, the transfer roller under the drum, ie it's on the paper but
> >> >> not on the drum.
> >> >>
> >> >> Likewise, open it while the paper is passing through the fuser to see if
> >> >> that's where the mark is being added to the page.
> >> >>
> >> >> > The printer might just need to be cleaned. Is there a better way to
> >> >> > clean than with the following ...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Kensington Paper Guardian Paper Path Cleaning Sheets Manufacturer
Part#
> >> >> > 10313
> >> >>
> >> >> cleaning pages only clean small particles of dust from the paper path.
If
> >> >> you problem is dirt related then it's either grease somewhere or dust in
a
> >> >> lpace a cleaning page isn't going to reach.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm not sure if the HPLJ5 has a function to create cleaning pages, but
> >> >> some do. If not, print a broad diagonal line (like 3" or so wide)
across
> >> >> a page and print it. Feed it back in the "wrong" way up and print a
> >> >> "blank" page. The toner will remain slightly "sticky" long enough to
pick
> >> >> up any odd specks of dust. You could try it again with the page the
> >> >> "right" way up too just to be thorough, possibly by printing a new
> >> >> "cleaning" page first.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> DaveG
> >> >>
> >> >> "Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt
> >> >> up after being drunk all night." Isaac Asimov
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Where's a good place to buy a quality fuser (or maintenance kit)?
> >> >OEM is probably best, right?
>

The only problem with the maintenance kits is not with the kits themselves.
Replacement of rollers is a pretty time-consuming and tedious operation.

But I'm with you. I have a networked LaserJet 5M with maximum 50MB of memory
happily chugging away here, pumping lots of paper and printing occasionally on
28 lb card stock. They don't make'em like this any more, unless you spring for
the big bucks and maybe a LaserJet 4300 series.

Moe at fixyourownprinter is first rate... Ben Myers

On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:52:32 GMT, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:

>Yes, I bought this printer (used) back in
>August 2002. No problems really. All I need to do is
>change the toner cartridge from time to time.
>It might be worth it to get a maintenance kit and
>replace some of the rollers/parts. But then,
>do I want to fix what ain't broke?
>
>
>"Tony" <> wrote in message
>newsart1of1.1.x#uaDY$...
>> I have not used their products but have only ever seen positive feedback. They
>> provide full instructions.
>> This printer is worth a bit of tender loving care.
>> Tony
>>
>> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
>> >How about the following Fusing Assembly Kit ...
>> >http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/kits/hp/K22
>> >
>> >
>> >"Ben Myers" <> wrote in message
>> >news:.. .
>> >> The PrinterWorks is well-regarded, but somewhat pricey, given the age and
>> >> current value of the printer.
>> >>
>> >> You can inquire, but I doubt that HP stocks spares for the LaserJet 5, a
>> >sturdy
>> >> beast, but over 10 years old. (I know. I use one myself.)
>> >>
>> >> I sell LaserJet 5M (with PostScript) refurbs in good working order for $75.
>> >This
>> >> should allow you to determine how much you want to spend to fix your
>> >printer...
>> >> Ben Myers
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:26:43 -0800, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"DaveG" <> wrote in message
>> >> >news...
>> >> >> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:04:29 +0000, Adam wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > I tried opening the cover to find the problem but doing so stops the
>> >> >> > printer from printing.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Well, yeah, that happens. :-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The "trick" is to open the printer while the page is part way through,
>eg
>> >> >> under the OPC drum so you can check if the mark is evident there or
>maybe
>> >> >> happens later in the path.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You can also check the OPS drum itself, the image will still be on the
>> >> >> drum, to check if the mark is there, ie is the drum putting the mark on
>> >> >> ther page, the transfer roller under the drum, ie it's on the paper but
>> >> >> not on the drum.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Likewise, open it while the paper is passing through the fuser to see if
>> >> >> that's where the mark is being added to the page.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > The printer might just need to be cleaned. Is there a better way to
>> >> >> > clean than with the following ...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Kensington Paper Guardian Paper Path Cleaning Sheets Manufacturer
>Part#
>> >> >> > 10313
>> >> >>
>> >> >> cleaning pages only clean small particles of dust from the paper path.
>If
>> >> >> you problem is dirt related then it's either grease somewhere or dust in
>a
>> >> >> lpace a cleaning page isn't going to reach.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm not sure if the HPLJ5 has a function to create cleaning pages, but
>> >> >> some do. If not, print a broad diagonal line (like 3" or so wide)
>across
>> >> >> a page and print it. Feed it back in the "wrong" way up and print a
>> >> >> "blank" page. The toner will remain slightly "sticky" long enough to
>pick
>> >> >> up any odd specks of dust. You could try it again with the page the
>> >> >> "right" way up too just to be thorough, possibly by printing a new
>> >> >> "cleaning" page first.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> DaveG
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt
>> >> >> up after being drunk all night." Isaac Asimov
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Where's a good place to buy a quality fuser (or maintenance kit)?
>> >> >OEM is probably best, right?
>>

PS: Replacement of an LJ4/LJ4+/LJ5 fuser assembly is very simple, especially
when compared with the rollers... Ben Myers

On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:52:32 GMT, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:

>Yes, I bought this printer (used) back in
>August 2002. No problems really. All I need to do is
>change the toner cartridge from time to time.
>It might be worth it to get a maintenance kit and
>replace some of the rollers/parts. But then,
>do I want to fix what ain't broke?
>
>
>"Tony" <> wrote in message
>newsart1of1.1.x#uaDY$...
>> I have not used their products but have only ever seen positive feedback. They
>> provide full instructions.
>> This printer is worth a bit of tender loving care.
>> Tony
>>
>> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
>> >How about the following Fusing Assembly Kit ...
>> >http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/kits/hp/K22
>> >
>> >
>> >"Ben Myers" <> wrote in message
>> >news:.. .
>> >> The PrinterWorks is well-regarded, but somewhat pricey, given the age and
>> >> current value of the printer.
>> >>
>> >> You can inquire, but I doubt that HP stocks spares for the LaserJet 5, a
>> >sturdy
>> >> beast, but over 10 years old. (I know. I use one myself.)
>> >>
>> >> I sell LaserJet 5M (with PostScript) refurbs in good working order for $75.
>> >This
>> >> should allow you to determine how much you want to spend to fix your
>> >printer...
>> >> Ben Myers
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:26:43 -0800, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"DaveG" <> wrote in message
>> >> >news...
>> >> >> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:04:29 +0000, Adam wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > I tried opening the cover to find the problem but doing so stops the
>> >> >> > printer from printing.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Well, yeah, that happens. :-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The "trick" is to open the printer while the page is part way through,
>eg
>> >> >> under the OPC drum so you can check if the mark is evident there or
>maybe
>> >> >> happens later in the path.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You can also check the OPS drum itself, the image will still be on the
>> >> >> drum, to check if the mark is there, ie is the drum putting the mark on
>> >> >> ther page, the transfer roller under the drum, ie it's on the paper but
>> >> >> not on the drum.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Likewise, open it while the paper is passing through the fuser to see if
>> >> >> that's where the mark is being added to the page.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > The printer might just need to be cleaned. Is there a better way to
>> >> >> > clean than with the following ...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Kensington Paper Guardian Paper Path Cleaning Sheets Manufacturer
>Part#
>> >> >> > 10313
>> >> >>
>> >> >> cleaning pages only clean small particles of dust from the paper path.
>If
>> >> >> you problem is dirt related then it's either grease somewhere or dust in
>a
>> >> >> lpace a cleaning page isn't going to reach.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm not sure if the HPLJ5 has a function to create cleaning pages, but
>> >> >> some do. If not, print a broad diagonal line (like 3" or so wide)
>across
>> >> >> a page and print it. Feed it back in the "wrong" way up and print a
>> >> >> "blank" page. The toner will remain slightly "sticky" long enough to
>pick
>> >> >> up any odd specks of dust. You could try it again with the page the
>> >> >> "right" way up too just to be thorough, possibly by printing a new
>> >> >> "cleaning" page first.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> DaveG
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt
>> >> >> up after being drunk all night." Isaac Asimov
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Where's a good place to buy a quality fuser (or maintenance kit)?
>> >> >OEM is probably best, right?
>>

Which rollers are you referring to?
So far, they don't seem that bad to me.
But then, I put together my own PC from scratch,
which was a fun learning experience for me.


"Ben Myers" <> wrote in message
news:...
> The only problem with the maintenance kits is not with the kits themselves.
> Replacement of rollers is a pretty time-consuming and tedious operation.
>
> But I'm with you. I have a networked LaserJet 5M with maximum 50MB of memory
> happily chugging away here, pumping lots of paper and printing occasionally on
> 28 lb card stock. They don't make'em like this any more, unless you spring
for
> the big bucks and maybe a LaserJet 4300 series.
>
> Moe at fixyourownprinter is first rate... Ben Myers
>
>
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:52:32 GMT, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
>
> >Yes, I bought this printer (used) back in
> >August 2002. No problems really. All I need to do is
> >change the toner cartridge from time to time.
> >It might be worth it to get a maintenance kit and
> >replace some of the rollers/parts. But then,
> >do I want to fix what ain't broke?
> >
> >
> >"Tony" <> wrote in message
> >newsart1of1.1.x#uaDY$...
> >> I have not used their products but have only ever seen positive feedback.
They
> >> provide full instructions.
> >> This printer is worth a bit of tender loving care.
> >> Tony
> >>
> >> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
> >> >How about the following Fusing Assembly Kit ...
> >> >http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/kits/hp/K22
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Ben Myers" <> wrote in message
> >> >news:.. .
> >> >> The PrinterWorks is well-regarded, but somewhat pricey, given the age
and
> >> >> current value of the printer.
> >> >>
> >> >> You can inquire, but I doubt that HP stocks spares for the LaserJet 5, a
> >> >sturdy
> >> >> beast, but over 10 years old. (I know. I use one myself.)
> >> >>
> >> >> I sell LaserJet 5M (with PostScript) refurbs in good working order for
$75.
> >> >This
> >> >> should allow you to determine how much you want to spend to fix your
> >> >printer...
> >> >> Ben Myers
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:26:43 -0800, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"DaveG" <> wrote in message
> >> >> >news...
> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:04:29 +0000, Adam wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > I tried opening the cover to find the problem but doing so stops
the
> >> >> >> > printer from printing.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Well, yeah, that happens. :-)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The "trick" is to open the printer while the page is part way
through,
> >eg
> >> >> >> under the OPC drum so you can check if the mark is evident there or
> >maybe
> >> >> >> happens later in the path.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You can also check the OPS drum itself, the image will still be on
the
> >> >> >> drum, to check if the mark is there, ie is the drum putting the mark
on
> >> >> >> ther page, the transfer roller under the drum, ie it's on the paper
but
> >> >> >> not on the drum.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Likewise, open it while the paper is passing through the fuser to see
if
> >> >> >> that's where the mark is being added to the page.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > The printer might just need to be cleaned. Is there a better way to
> >> >> >> > clean than with the following ...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Kensington Paper Guardian Paper Path Cleaning Sheets Manufacturer
> >Part#
> >> >> >> > 10313
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> cleaning pages only clean small particles of dust from the paper
path.
> >If
> >> >> >> you problem is dirt related then it's either grease somewhere or dust
in
> >a
> >> >> >> lpace a cleaning page isn't going to reach.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I'm not sure if the HPLJ5 has a function to create cleaning pages,
but
> >> >> >> some do. If not, print a broad diagonal line (like 3" or so wide)
> >across
> >> >> >> a page and print it. Feed it back in the "wrong" way up and print a
> >> >> >> "blank" page. The toner will remain slightly "sticky" long enough to
> >pick
> >> >> >> up any odd specks of dust. You could try it again with the page the
> >> >> >> "right" way up too just to be thorough, possibly by printing a new
> >> >> >> "cleaning" page first.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> DaveG
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you
dreamt
> >> >> >> up after being drunk all night." Isaac Asimov
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Where's a good place to buy a quality fuser (or maintenance kit)?
> >> >> >OEM is probably best, right?
> >>

If the only problem you have is the mark down the edge and if that is caused by
the fuser I would only change the fuser. The other rollers are not hard to
change however. If you are having paper pick up problems then changing the pick
up rollers is indicated, in my experience the transfer charge roller rarely
fails but is not hard to change either. The service manual is free and
available from
http://www.eserviceinfo.com/download...t%205%20M.html
download the two parts and uncompress them. See what is involved.
Tony

"Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
>Which rollers are you referring to?
>So far, they don't seem that bad to me.
>But then, I put together my own PC from scratch,
>which was a fun learning experience for me.
>
>
>"Ben Myers" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> The only problem with the maintenance kits is not with the kits themselves.
>> Replacement of rollers is a pretty time-consuming and tedious operation.
>>
>> But I'm with you. I have a networked LaserJet 5M with maximum 50MB of memory
>> happily chugging away here, pumping lots of paper and printing occasionally
>>on
>> 28 lb card stock. They don't make'em like this any more, unless you spring
>for
>> the big bucks and maybe a LaserJet 4300 series.
>>
>> Moe at fixyourownprinter is first rate... Ben Myers
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:52:32 GMT, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Yes, I bought this printer (used) back in
>> >August 2002. No problems really. All I need to do is
>> >change the toner cartridge from time to time.
>> >It might be worth it to get a maintenance kit and
>> >replace some of the rollers/parts. But then,
>> >do I want to fix what ain't broke?
>> >
>> >
>> >"Tony" <> wrote in message
>> >newsart1of1.1.x#uaDY$...
>> >> I have not used their products but have only ever seen positive feedback.
>They
>> >> provide full instructions.
>> >> This printer is worth a bit of tender loving care.
>> >> Tony
>> >>
>> >> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
>> >> >How about the following Fusing Assembly Kit ...
>> >> >http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/kits/hp/K22
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Ben Myers" <> wrote in message
>> >> >news:.. .
>> >> >> The PrinterWorks is well-regarded, but somewhat pricey, given the age
>and
>> >> >> current value of the printer.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You can inquire, but I doubt that HP stocks spares for the LaserJet 5,
>> >> >>a
>> >> >sturdy
>> >> >> beast, but over 10 years old. (I know. I use one myself.)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I sell LaserJet 5M (with PostScript) refurbs in good working order for
>$75.
>> >> >This
>> >> >> should allow you to determine how much you want to spend to fix your
>> >> >printer...
>> >> >> Ben Myers
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:26:43 -0800, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"DaveG" <> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news...
>> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:04:29 +0000, Adam wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > I tried opening the cover to find the problem but doing so stops
>the
>> >> >> >> > printer from printing.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Well, yeah, that happens. :-)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> The "trick" is to open the printer while the page is part way
>through,
>> >eg
>> >> >> >> under the OPC drum so you can check if the mark is evident there or
>> >maybe
>> >> >> >> happens later in the path.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You can also check the OPS drum itself, the image will still be on
>the
>> >> >> >> drum, to check if the mark is there, ie is the drum putting the mark
>on
>> >> >> >> ther page, the transfer roller under the drum, ie it's on the paper
>but
>> >> >> >> not on the drum.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Likewise, open it while the paper is passing through the fuser to
>> >> >> >>see
>if
>> >> >> >> that's where the mark is being added to the page.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > The printer might just need to be cleaned. Is there a better way
>> >> >> >> >to
>> >> >> >> > clean than with the following ...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Kensington Paper Guardian Paper Path Cleaning Sheets Manufacturer
>> >Part#
>> >> >> >> > 10313
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> cleaning pages only clean small particles of dust from the paper
>path.
>> >If
>> >> >> >> you problem is dirt related then it's either grease somewhere or
>> >> >> >>dust
>in
>> >a
>> >> >> >> lpace a cleaning page isn't going to reach.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I'm not sure if the HPLJ5 has a function to create cleaning pages,
>but
>> >> >> >> some do. If not, print a broad diagonal line (like 3" or so wide)
>> >across
>> >> >> >> a page and print it. Feed it back in the "wrong" way up and print a
>> >> >> >> "blank" page. The toner will remain slightly "sticky" long enough
>> >> >> >>to
>> >pick
>> >> >> >> up any odd specks of dust. You could try it again with the page the
>> >> >> >> "right" way up too just to be thorough, possibly by printing a new
>> >> >> >> "cleaning" page first.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> DaveG
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you
>dreamt
>> >> >> >> up after being drunk all night." Isaac Asimov
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Where's a good place to buy a quality fuser (or maintenance kit)?
>> >> >> >OEM is probably best, right?
>> >>

Maybe I don't have them completely figured out yet, but I've always found
changing out the rollers that pull the paper to be tricky. The symptoms of
rollers failing are usually two, either paper does not feed through completely
or the paper is accordion-like when it exits... Ben Myers

On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:56:03 GMT, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:

>Which rollers are you referring to?
>So far, they don't seem that bad to me.
>But then, I put together my own PC from scratch,
>which was a fun learning experience for me.
>
>
>"Ben Myers" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> The only problem with the maintenance kits is not with the kits themselves.
>> Replacement of rollers is a pretty time-consuming and tedious operation.
>>
>> But I'm with you. I have a networked LaserJet 5M with maximum 50MB of memory
>> happily chugging away here, pumping lots of paper and printing occasionally on
>> 28 lb card stock. They don't make'em like this any more, unless you spring
>for
>> the big bucks and maybe a LaserJet 4300 series.
>>
>> Moe at fixyourownprinter is first rate... Ben Myers
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:52:32 GMT, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Yes, I bought this printer (used) back in
>> >August 2002. No problems really. All I need to do is
>> >change the toner cartridge from time to time.
>> >It might be worth it to get a maintenance kit and
>> >replace some of the rollers/parts. But then,
>> >do I want to fix what ain't broke?
>> >
>> >
>> >"Tony" <> wrote in message
>> >newsart1of1.1.x#uaDY$...
>> >> I have not used their products but have only ever seen positive feedback.
>They
>> >> provide full instructions.
>> >> This printer is worth a bit of tender loving care.
>> >> Tony
>> >>
>> >> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
>> >> >How about the following Fusing Assembly Kit ...
>> >> >http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/kits/hp/K22
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Ben Myers" <> wrote in message
>> >> >news:.. .
>> >> >> The PrinterWorks is well-regarded, but somewhat pricey, given the age
>and
>> >> >> current value of the printer.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You can inquire, but I doubt that HP stocks spares for the LaserJet 5, a
>> >> >sturdy
>> >> >> beast, but over 10 years old. (I know. I use one myself.)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I sell LaserJet 5M (with PostScript) refurbs in good working order for
>$75.
>> >> >This
>> >> >> should allow you to determine how much you want to spend to fix your
>> >> >printer...
>> >> >> Ben Myers
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:26:43 -0800, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"DaveG" <> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news...
>> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:04:29 +0000, Adam wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > I tried opening the cover to find the problem but doing so stops
>the
>> >> >> >> > printer from printing.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Well, yeah, that happens. :-)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> The "trick" is to open the printer while the page is part way
>through,
>> >eg
>> >> >> >> under the OPC drum so you can check if the mark is evident there or
>> >maybe
>> >> >> >> happens later in the path.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You can also check the OPS drum itself, the image will still be on
>the
>> >> >> >> drum, to check if the mark is there, ie is the drum putting the mark
>on
>> >> >> >> ther page, the transfer roller under the drum, ie it's on the paper
>but
>> >> >> >> not on the drum.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Likewise, open it while the paper is passing through the fuser to see
>if
>> >> >> >> that's where the mark is being added to the page.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > The printer might just need to be cleaned. Is there a better way to
>> >> >> >> > clean than with the following ...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Kensington Paper Guardian Paper Path Cleaning Sheets Manufacturer
>> >Part#
>> >> >> >> > 10313
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> cleaning pages only clean small particles of dust from the paper
>path.
>> >If
>> >> >> >> you problem is dirt related then it's either grease somewhere or dust
>in
>> >a
>> >> >> >> lpace a cleaning page isn't going to reach.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I'm not sure if the HPLJ5 has a function to create cleaning pages,
>but
>> >> >> >> some do. If not, print a broad diagonal line (like 3" or so wide)
>> >across
>> >> >> >> a page and print it. Feed it back in the "wrong" way up and print a
>> >> >> >> "blank" page. The toner will remain slightly "sticky" long enough to
>> >pick
>> >> >> >> up any odd specks of dust. You could try it again with the page the
>> >> >> >> "right" way up too just to be thorough, possibly by printing a new
>> >> >> >> "cleaning" page first.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> DaveG
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you
>dreamt
>> >> >> >> up after being drunk all night." Isaac Asimov
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Where's a good place to buy a quality fuser (or maintenance kit)?
>> >> >> >OEM is probably best, right?
>> >>

top-posting and quoting entire highway-length articles is bad.

In article <>,
Ben Myers <> wrote:

> Maybe I don't have them completely figured out yet, but I've always found
> changing out the rollers that pull the paper to be tricky. The symptoms of
> rollers failing are usually two, either paper does not feed through
> completely
> or the paper is accordion-like when it exits... Ben Myers
>
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:56:03 GMT, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
>
> >Which rollers are you referring to?
> >So far, they don't seem that bad to me.
> >But then, I put together my own PC from scratch,
> >which was a fun learning experience for me.
> >
> >
> >"Ben Myers" <> wrote in message
> >news:.. .
> >> The only problem with the maintenance kits is not with the kits
> >> themselves.
> >> Replacement of rollers is a pretty time-consuming and tedious operation.
> >>
> >> But I'm with you. I have a networked LaserJet 5M with maximum 50MB of
> >> memory
> >> happily chugging away here, pumping lots of paper and printing
> >> occasionally on
> >> 28 lb card stock. They don't make'em like this any more, unless you
> >> spring
> >for
> >> the big bucks and maybe a LaserJet 4300 series.
> >>
> >> Moe at fixyourownprinter is first rate... Ben Myers
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:52:32 GMT, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Yes, I bought this printer (used) back in
> >> >August 2002. No problems really. All I need to do is
> >> >change the toner cartridge from time to time.
> >> >It might be worth it to get a maintenance kit and
> >> >replace some of the rollers/parts. But then,
> >> >do I want to fix what ain't broke?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Tony" <> wrote in message
> >> >newsart1of1.1.x#uaDY$...
> >> >> I have not used their products but have only ever seen positive
> >> >> feedback.
> >They
> >> >> provide full instructions.
> >> >> This printer is worth a bit of tender loving care.
> >> >> Tony
> >> >>
> >> >> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
> >> >> >How about the following Fusing Assembly Kit ...
> >> >> >http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/kits/hp/K22
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Ben Myers" <> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:.. .
> >> >> >> The PrinterWorks is well-regarded, but somewhat pricey, given the
> >> >> >> age
> >and
> >> >> >> current value of the printer.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You can inquire, but I doubt that HP stocks spares for the LaserJet
> >> >> >> 5, a
> >> >> >sturdy
> >> >> >> beast, but over 10 years old. (I know. I use one myself.)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I sell LaserJet 5M (with PostScript) refurbs in good working order
> >> >> >> for
> >$75.
> >> >> >This
> >> >> >> should allow you to determine how much you want to spend to fix your
> >> >> >printer...
> >> >> >> Ben Myers
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:26:43 -0800, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >"DaveG" <> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >news...
> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:04:29 +0000, Adam wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > I tried opening the cover to find the problem but doing so
> >> >> >> >> > stops
> >the
> >> >> >> >> > printer from printing.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Well, yeah, that happens. :-)
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The "trick" is to open the printer while the page is part way
> >through,
> >> >eg
> >> >> >> >> under the OPC drum so you can check if the mark is evident there
> >> >> >> >> or
> >> >maybe
> >> >> >> >> happens later in the path.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> You can also check the OPS drum itself, the image will still be
> >> >> >> >> on
> >the
> >> >> >> >> drum, to check if the mark is there, ie is the drum putting the
> >> >> >> >> mark
> >on
> >> >> >> >> ther page, the transfer roller under the drum, ie it's on the
> >> >> >> >> paper
> >but
> >> >> >> >> not on the drum.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Likewise, open it while the paper is passing through the fuser to
> >> >> >> >> see
> >if
> >> >> >> >> that's where the mark is being added to the page.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > The printer might just need to be cleaned. Is there a better
> >> >> >> >> > way to
> >> >> >> >> > clean than with the following ...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Kensington Paper Guardian Paper Path Cleaning Sheets
> >> >> >> >> > Manufacturer
> >> >Part#
> >> >> >> >> > 10313
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> cleaning pages only clean small particles of dust from the paper
> >path.
> >> >If
> >> >> >> >> you problem is dirt related then it's either grease somewhere or
> >> >> >> >> dust
> >in
> >> >a
> >> >> >> >> lpace a cleaning page isn't going to reach.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I'm not sure if the HPLJ5 has a function to create cleaning
> >> >> >> >> pages,
> >but
> >> >> >> >> some do. If not, print a broad diagonal line (like 3" or so
> >> >> >> >> wide)
> >> >across
> >> >> >> >> a page and print it. Feed it back in the "wrong" way up and
> >> >> >> >> print a
> >> >> >> >> "blank" page. The toner will remain slightly "sticky" long
> >> >> >> >> enough to
> >> >pick
> >> >> >> >> up any odd specks of dust. You could try it again with the page
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> "right" way up too just to be thorough, possibly by printing a
> >> >> >> >> new
> >> >> >> >> "cleaning" page first.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> DaveG
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you
> >dreamt
> >> >> >> >> up after being drunk all night." Isaac Asimov
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Where's a good place to buy a quality fuser (or maintenance kit)?
> >> >> >> >OEM is probably best, right?
> >> >>

top-posting and quoting entire highway-length articles is bad

In article <part1of1.1.S1$>,
Tony <> wrote:

> If the only problem you have is the mark down the edge and if that is caused
> by
> the fuser I would only change the fuser. The other rollers are not hard to
> change however. If you are having paper pick up problems then changing the
> pick
> up rollers is indicated, in my experience the transfer charge roller rarely
> fails but is not hard to change either. The service manual is free and
> available from
> http://www.eserviceinfo.com/download...t%205%20M.html
> download the two parts and uncompress them. See what is involved.
> Tony
>
> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
> >Which rollers are you referring to?
> >So far, they don't seem that bad to me.
> >But then, I put together my own PC from scratch,
> >which was a fun learning experience for me.
> >
> >
> >"Ben Myers" <> wrote in message
> >news:.. .
> >> The only problem with the maintenance kits is not with the kits
> >> themselves.
> >> Replacement of rollers is a pretty time-consuming and tedious operation.
> >>
> >> But I'm with you. I have a networked LaserJet 5M with maximum 50MB of
> >> memory
> >> happily chugging away here, pumping lots of paper and printing
> >> occasionally
> >>on
> >> 28 lb card stock. They don't make'em like this any more, unless you
> >> spring
> >for
> >> the big bucks and maybe a LaserJet 4300 series.
> >>
> >> Moe at fixyourownprinter is first rate... Ben Myers
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:52:32 GMT, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Yes, I bought this printer (used) back in
> >> >August 2002. No problems really. All I need to do is
> >> >change the toner cartridge from time to time.
> >> >It might be worth it to get a maintenance kit and
> >> >replace some of the rollers/parts. But then,
> >> >do I want to fix what ain't broke?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Tony" <> wrote in message
> >> >newsart1of1.1.x#uaDY$...
> >> >> I have not used their products but have only ever seen positive
> >> >> feedback.
> >They
> >> >> provide full instructions.
> >> >> This printer is worth a bit of tender loving care.
> >> >> Tony
> >> >>
> >> >> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
> >> >> >How about the following Fusing Assembly Kit ...
> >> >> >http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/kits/hp/K22
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Ben Myers" <> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:.. .
> >> >> >> The PrinterWorks is well-regarded, but somewhat pricey, given the
> >> >> >> age
> >and
> >> >> >> current value of the printer.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You can inquire, but I doubt that HP stocks spares for the LaserJet
> >> >> >> 5,
> >> >> >>a
> >> >> >sturdy
> >> >> >> beast, but over 10 years old. (I know. I use one myself.)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I sell LaserJet 5M (with PostScript) refurbs in good working order
> >> >> >> for
> >$75.
> >> >> >This
> >> >> >> should allow you to determine how much you want to spend to fix your
> >> >> >printer...
> >> >> >> Ben Myers
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:26:43 -0800, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >"DaveG" <> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >news...
> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:04:29 +0000, Adam wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > I tried opening the cover to find the problem but doing so
> >> >> >> >> > stops
> >the
> >> >> >> >> > printer from printing.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Well, yeah, that happens. :-)
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The "trick" is to open the printer while the page is part way
> >through,
> >> >eg
> >> >> >> >> under the OPC drum so you can check if the mark is evident there
> >> >> >> >> or
> >> >maybe
> >> >> >> >> happens later in the path.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> You can also check the OPS drum itself, the image will still be
> >> >> >> >> on
> >the
> >> >> >> >> drum, to check if the mark is there, ie is the drum putting the
> >> >> >> >> mark
> >on
> >> >> >> >> ther page, the transfer roller under the drum, ie it's on the
> >> >> >> >> paper
> >but
> >> >> >> >> not on the drum.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Likewise, open it while the paper is passing through the fuser to
> >> >> >> >>see
> >if
> >> >> >> >> that's where the mark is being added to the page.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > The printer might just need to be cleaned. Is there a better
> >> >> >> >> > way
> >> >> >> >> >to
> >> >> >> >> > clean than with the following ...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Kensington Paper Guardian Paper Path Cleaning Sheets
> >> >> >> >> > Manufacturer
> >> >Part#
> >> >> >> >> > 10313
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> cleaning pages only clean small particles of dust from the paper
> >path.
> >> >If
> >> >> >> >> you problem is dirt related then it's either grease somewhere or
> >> >> >> >>dust
> >in
> >> >a
> >> >> >> >> lpace a cleaning page isn't going to reach.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I'm not sure if the HPLJ5 has a function to create cleaning
> >> >> >> >> pages,
> >but
> >> >> >> >> some do. If not, print a broad diagonal line (like 3" or so
> >> >> >> >> wide)
> >> >across
> >> >> >> >> a page and print it. Feed it back in the "wrong" way up and
> >> >> >> >> print a
> >> >> >> >> "blank" page. The toner will remain slightly "sticky" long
> >> >> >> >> enough
> >> >> >> >>to
> >> >pick
> >> >> >> >> up any odd specks of dust. You could try it again with the page
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> "right" way up too just to be thorough, possibly by printing a
> >> >> >> >> new
> >> >> >> >> "cleaning" page first.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> DaveG
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you
> >dreamt
> >> >> >> >> up after being drunk all night." Isaac Asimov
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Where's a good place to buy a quality fuser (or maintenance kit)?
> >> >> >> >OEM is probably best, right?
> >> >>

On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:27:41 -0500, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> top-posting and quoting entire highway-length articles is bad

And...?

--
DaveG

"Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt
up after being drunk all night." Isaac Asimov

Thanks for the link.

That website seems to be really popular cuz
I haven't been able to get to it yet. I'll try again later ...


"Tony" <> wrote in message
newsart1of1.1.S1$...
> If the only problem you have is the mark down the edge and if that is caused
by
> the fuser I would only change the fuser. The other rollers are not hard to
> change however. If you are having paper pick up problems then changing the
pick
> up rollers is indicated, in my experience the transfer charge roller rarely
> fails but is not hard to change either. The service manual is free and
> available from
> http://www.eserviceinfo.com/download...t%205%20M.html
> download the two parts and uncompress them. See what is involved.
> Tony
>
>
> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
> >Which rollers are you referring to?
> >So far, they don't seem that bad to me.
> >But then, I put together my own PC from scratch,
> >which was a fun learning experience for me.
> >
> >
> >"Ben Myers" <> wrote in message
> >news:.. .
> >> The only problem with the maintenance kits is not with the kits themselves.
> >> Replacement of rollers is a pretty time-consuming and tedious operation.
> >>
> >> But I'm with you. I have a networked LaserJet 5M with maximum 50MB of
memory
> >> happily chugging away here, pumping lots of paper and printing occasionally
> >>on
> >> 28 lb card stock. They don't make'em like this any more, unless you
spring
> >for
> >> the big bucks and maybe a LaserJet 4300 series.
> >>
> >> Moe at fixyourownprinter is first rate... Ben Myers
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:52:32 GMT, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Yes, I bought this printer (used) back in
> >> >August 2002. No problems really. All I need to do is
> >> >change the toner cartridge from time to time.
> >> >It might be worth it to get a maintenance kit and
> >> >replace some of the rollers/parts. But then,
> >> >do I want to fix what ain't broke?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Tony" <> wrote in message
> >> >newsart1of1.1.x#uaDY$...
> >> >> I have not used their products but have only ever seen positive
feedback.
> >They
> >> >> provide full instructions.
> >> >> This printer is worth a bit of tender loving care.
> >> >> Tony
> >> >>
> >> >> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
> >> >> >How about the following Fusing Assembly Kit ...
> >> >> >http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/kits/hp/K22
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Ben Myers" <> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:.. .
> >> >> >> The PrinterWorks is well-regarded, but somewhat pricey, given the age
> >and
> >> >> >> current value of the printer.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You can inquire, but I doubt that HP stocks spares for the LaserJet
5,
> >> >> >>a
> >> >> >sturdy
> >> >> >> beast, but over 10 years old. (I know. I use one myself.)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I sell LaserJet 5M (with PostScript) refurbs in good working order
for
> >$75.
> >> >> >This
> >> >> >> should allow you to determine how much you want to spend to fix your
> >> >> >printer...
> >> >> >> Ben Myers
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:26:43 -0800, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com>
wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >"DaveG" <> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >news...
> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:04:29 +0000, Adam wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > I tried opening the cover to find the problem but doing so stops
> >the
> >> >> >> >> > printer from printing.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Well, yeah, that happens. :-)
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The "trick" is to open the printer while the page is part way
> >through,
> >> >eg
> >> >> >> >> under the OPC drum so you can check if the mark is evident there
or
> >> >maybe
> >> >> >> >> happens later in the path.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> You can also check the OPS drum itself, the image will still be on
> >the
> >> >> >> >> drum, to check if the mark is there, ie is the drum putting the
mark
> >on
> >> >> >> >> ther page, the transfer roller under the drum, ie it's on the
paper
> >but
> >> >> >> >> not on the drum.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Likewise, open it while the paper is passing through the fuser to
> >> >> >> >>see
> >if
> >> >> >> >> that's where the mark is being added to the page.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > The printer might just need to be cleaned. Is there a better way
> >> >> >> >> >to
> >> >> >> >> > clean than with the following ...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Kensington Paper Guardian Paper Path Cleaning Sheets
Manufacturer
> >> >Part#
> >> >> >> >> > 10313
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> cleaning pages only clean small particles of dust from the paper
> >path.
> >> >If
> >> >> >> >> you problem is dirt related then it's either grease somewhere or
> >> >> >> >>dust
> >in
> >> >a
> >> >> >> >> lpace a cleaning page isn't going to reach.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I'm not sure if the HPLJ5 has a function to create cleaning pages,
> >but
> >> >> >> >> some do. If not, print a broad diagonal line (like 3" or so wide)
> >> >across
> >> >> >> >> a page and print it. Feed it back in the "wrong" way up and print
a
> >> >> >> >> "blank" page. The toner will remain slightly "sticky" long enough
> >> >> >> >>to
> >> >pick
> >> >> >> >> up any odd specks of dust. You could try it again with the page
the
> >> >> >> >> "right" way up too just to be thorough, possibly by printing a new
> >> >> >> >> "cleaning" page first.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> DaveG
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you
> >dreamt
> >> >> >> >> up after being drunk all night." Isaac Asimov
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Where's a good place to buy a quality fuser (or maintenance kit)?
> >> >> >> >OEM is probably best, right?
> >> >>
>