HP laserjet P2015dn memory pricing

I got another memory question but this for the HP laserjet P2015dn. I
was considering getting this printer with more memory and noticed the
256 megs dim is mostly in the area of $500 except for a minority of
places including shop.kingston.com where it is $13 shipped. I believe
I first used kingston.com and it later redirected me to
shop.kingston.com. Anyone buy from them and are they trustworthy?
I'm just a bit hesitant when I see most sell something for $500 and a
few sell for a lot less..... and yeah I know the old saying if it
works like a duck, talks like a duck must be a duck. Forgive me for
asking any way.

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:16:08 -0600, RnR <> wrote:

>I got another memory question but this for the HP laserjet P2015dn. I
>was considering getting this printer with more memory and noticed the
>256 megs dim is mostly in the area of $500 except for a minority of
>places including shop.kingston.com where it is $13 shipped. I believe
>I first used kingston.com and it later redirected me to
>shop.kingston.com. Anyone buy from them and are they trustworthy?
>I'm just a bit hesitant when I see most sell something for $500 and a
>few sell for a lot less..... and yeah I know the old saying if it
>works like a duck, talks like a duck must be a duck. Forgive me for
>asking any way.

I use it with whatever memory it came with and don't know what extra
memory could add as far as performance or quality.

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:36:59 -0600, Journey <> wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:16:08 -0600, RnR <> wrote:
>
>>I got another memory question but this for the HP laserjet P2015dn. I
>>was considering getting this printer with more memory and noticed the
>>256 megs dim is mostly in the area of $500 except for a minority of
>>places including shop.kingston.com where it is $13 shipped. I believe
>>I first used kingston.com and it later redirected me to
>>shop.kingston.com. Anyone buy from them and are they trustworthy?
>>I'm just a bit hesitant when I see most sell something for $500 and a
>>few sell for a lot less..... and yeah I know the old saying if it
>>works like a duck, talks like a duck must be a duck. Forgive me for
>>asking any way.
>
>I use it with whatever memory it came with and don't know what extra
>memory could add as far as performance or quality.


I don't really know what it means but I think it has to do with
postscript (newsletters, etc..), I think. I don't do that stuff
either so it means little to me.

I was wondering about the memory because I read about a guy who tried
to print out a 5 or 6 page pdf file and said the stock memory couldn't
handle it well but I find that hard to believe because my old laserjet
could handle that fine and I think it has only 8 megs or less memory
while the stock memory in the P2015dn has 32 megs.

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:46:40 -0600, RnR <> wrote:

>I was wondering about the memory because I read about a guy who tried
>to print out a 5 or 6 page pdf file and said the stock memory couldn't
>handle it well but I find that hard to believe because my old laserjet
>could handle that fine and I think it has only 8 megs or less memory
>while the stock memory in the P2015dn has 32 megs.

I have printed out 50 page .pdf documents without a hiccup using the
included memory.

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:51:33 -0600, Journey <> wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:46:40 -0600, RnR <> wrote:
>
>>I was wondering about the memory because I read about a guy who tried
>>to print out a 5 or 6 page pdf file and said the stock memory couldn't
>>handle it well but I find that hard to believe because my old laserjet
>>could handle that fine and I think it has only 8 megs or less memory
>>while the stock memory in the P2015dn has 32 megs.
>
>I have printed out 50 page .pdf documents without a hiccup using the
>included memory.


That's probably more than I'll print most of the time.
thank you Journey for the info.. Have you every estimated what the
real print speed is (pages per minute) ? I know the printer is rated
at around 27.

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:56:37 -0600, RnR <> wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:51:33 -0600, Journey <> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:46:40 -0600, RnR <> wrote:
>>
>>>I was wondering about the memory because I read about a guy who tried
>>>to print out a 5 or 6 page pdf file and said the stock memory couldn't
>>>handle it well but I find that hard to believe because my old laserjet
>>>could handle that fine and I think it has only 8 megs or less memory
>>>while the stock memory in the P2015dn has 32 megs.
>>
>>I have printed out 50 page .pdf documents without a hiccup using the
>>included memory.
>
>
>That's probably more than I'll print most of the time.
>thank you Journey for the info.. Have you every estimated what the
>real print speed is (pages per minute) ? I know the printer is rated
>at around 27.

I timed the print speed once and I think it came out to about 23 pages
/ minute for what I was printing at the time.

I looked into other laser printers extensively before buying this one.
Many of the others had users reporting things like paper curling or
initial power surge when printing starts. This model doesn't have any
of those problems.

Also, importantly, the drivers that come with this printer are lean
and mean, unlike the bloated drivers for HPs all-in-one combo
printers.

I highly recommend the 2015DN.

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:33:13 -0600, Journey <> wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:56:37 -0600, RnR <> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:51:33 -0600, Journey <> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:46:40 -0600, RnR <> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I was wondering about the memory because I read about a guy who tried
>>>>to print out a 5 or 6 page pdf file and said the stock memory couldn't
>>>>handle it well but I find that hard to believe because my old laserjet
>>>>could handle that fine and I think it has only 8 megs or less memory
>>>>while the stock memory in the P2015dn has 32 megs.
>>>
>>>I have printed out 50 page .pdf documents without a hiccup using the
>>>included memory.
>>
>>
>>That's probably more than I'll print most of the time.
>>thank you Journey for the info.. Have you every estimated what the
>>real print speed is (pages per minute) ? I know the printer is rated
>>at around 27.
>
>I timed the print speed once and I think it came out to about 23 pages
>/ minute for what I was printing at the time.
>
>I looked into other laser printers extensively before buying this one.
>Many of the others had users reporting things like paper curling or
>initial power surge when printing starts. This model doesn't have any
>of those problems.
>
>Also, importantly, the drivers that come with this printer are lean
>and mean, unlike the bloated drivers for HPs all-in-one combo
>printers.
>
>I highly recommend the 2015DN.


Others have said the same and if I buy a laser, that will definitely
be the one !! Thanks again for the info Journey, appreciate all the
help !!

I've dealt a lot with HP LaserJets (not the low end multi-function jokes,
though), and I can explain what more printer memory does for a system.

Whether PCL6 or PostScript, the printer rasterizes the print image itself
interpreting the commands fed to it by the computer. More memory does not help
the printer to print faster. More memory has zilch to do with how many pages
you print at once. More memory enables the printer to print exceedingly complex
pages successfully. Keep in mind that a laser printer is a PAGE printer.
What's a complex page? Lotsa web pages are VERY complex. Very fancy
formatted Office print files are complex. Examples are Word docs with embedded
photos, charts and tables, and Excel files with overlays of pie charts, lots of
shading and so forth. Intricate PDFs with lots of graphs, tables and images are
another example. So the printer needs to have enough memory to build a complete
bitmap of the page AND to hold all the printer commands not yet interpreted and
processed. Both PCL6 and PostScript allow for nesting of commands within
commands within commands, sort of like a set of Russian dolls. The primary
symptom of insufficient memory is that a page gets kicked out of the printer
half printed, followed by the other half. Solutions are to either add more
memory or to reduce the dpi at which the page(s) are printed, e.g. from 1200 dpi
to 600 dpi. The HP LaserJet drivers also have other checkbox options that can
have an effect on whether a page is successfully printed.

Kingston has been around forever as a trusted manufacturer of add-on memory.
They know what they are doing, and if they recommend 256MB for $13, that is a
bargain to be snapped up! Think of it as an insurance policy to guarantee
reliable printing.

I routinely max out the memory of the old LaserJet 5/5M/5N printers that I sell
around here.

Having the printer on the network with its own IP address is GREAT... Ben Myers

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:16:08 -0600, RnR <> wrote:

>I got another memory question but this for the HP laserjet P2015dn. I
>was considering getting this printer with more memory and noticed the
>256 megs dim is mostly in the area of $500 except for a minority of
>places including shop.kingston.com where it is $13 shipped. I believe
>I first used kingston.com and it later redirected me to
>shop.kingston.com. Anyone buy from them and are they trustworthy?
>I'm just a bit hesitant when I see most sell something for $500 and a
>few sell for a lot less..... and yeah I know the old saying if it
>works like a duck, talks like a duck must be a duck. Forgive me for
>asking any way.

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:14:13 -0500, Ben Myers
<> wrote:

>I've dealt a lot with HP LaserJets (not the low end multi-function jokes,
>though), and I can explain what more printer memory does for a system.
>
>Whether PCL6 or PostScript, the printer rasterizes the print image itself
>interpreting the commands fed to it by the computer. More memory does not help
>the printer to print faster. More memory has zilch to do with how many pages
>you print at once. More memory enables the printer to print exceedingly complex
>pages successfully. Keep in mind that a laser printer is a PAGE printer.
>What's a complex page? Lotsa web pages are VERY complex. Very fancy
>formatted Office print files are complex. Examples are Word docs with embedded
>photos, charts and tables, and Excel files with overlays of pie charts, lots of
>shading and so forth. Intricate PDFs with lots of graphs, tables and images are
>another example. So the printer needs to have enough memory to build a complete
>bitmap of the page AND to hold all the printer commands not yet interpreted and
>processed. Both PCL6 and PostScript allow for nesting of commands within
>commands within commands, sort of like a set of Russian dolls. The primary
>symptom of insufficient memory is that a page gets kicked out of the printer
>half printed, followed by the other half. Solutions are to either add more
>memory or to reduce the dpi at which the page(s) are printed, e.g. from 1200 dpi
>to 600 dpi. The HP LaserJet drivers also have other checkbox options that can
>have an effect on whether a page is successfully printed.
>
>Kingston has been around forever as a trusted manufacturer of add-on memory.
>They know what they are doing, and if they recommend 256MB for $13, that is a
>bargain to be snapped up! Think of it as an insurance policy to guarantee
>reliable printing.
>
>I routinely max out the memory of the old LaserJet 5/5M/5N printers that I sell
>around here.
>
>Having the printer on the network with its own IP address is GREAT... Ben Myers
>
>On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:16:08 -0600, RnR <> wrote:
>
>>I got another memory question but this for the HP laserjet P2015dn. I
>>was considering getting this printer with more memory and noticed the
>>256 megs dim is mostly in the area of $500 except for a minority of
>>places including shop.kingston.com where it is $13 shipped. I believe
>>I first used kingston.com and it later redirected me to
>>shop.kingston.com. Anyone buy from them and are they trustworthy?
>>I'm just a bit hesitant when I see most sell something for $500 and a
>>few sell for a lot less..... and yeah I know the old saying if it
>>works like a duck, talks like a duck must be a duck. Forgive me for
>>asking any way.


Ben, thanks for the explanation. It might be a good idea for me to
invest in the extra memory because I have 2 kids who will likely go to
grad school so the demand on the new printer (lj p2015dn) might grow
beyond my own modest home (network) demands.

Do you think its worth fixing my old lj4 for parts costing $75 to $175
even if I go for the new printer? The lj4 jams now a lot and reading
the service manual or web (forgot which) it mentions 2 different parts
that might be the cause (I hope this is correct) and are replaceable
tho I never had to crack open this lj4 except for the toner. I'm a
bit sentimental about my old lj4 as it's about 15 years old and worked
great till now but be honest what your thoughts are here. thanks.

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:16:08 -0600, RnR <> wrote:

>I got another memory question but this for the HP laserjet P2015dn. I
>was considering getting this printer with more memory and noticed the
>256 megs dim is mostly in the area of $500 except for a minority of
>places including shop.kingston.com where it is $13 shipped.

Hey RnR, belated thanks for this info. Because it's only $13, I
ordered the memory.

Also thanks Ben for your informative post in this thread.