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Anthony
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      01-14-2004, 12:42 AM


I purchased a Pavilion a375c desktop.

The desktop came with a pair of speakers. On the back of the right
speaker is a jack that is labeled "subwoofer". I am assuming that
this is where you can plug in a subwoofer.

The speakers have the name, "Harman Kardon" on it. I talked to
Harman/Kardon, and I was told that the speakers are are sold, made and
serviced by HP
and licensed under the Harman Kardon name...so I was told to talk to
HP.

The funny thing is that HP does not make a subwoofer that can be
plugged into this connection.

Anyways, any help/suggestions would be appreciated.
 
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Ken Marsh
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      01-14-2004, 04:04 PM
Hi,

In article <>,
Anthony <> wrote:
#I purchased a Pavilion a375c desktop.

#The desktop came with a pair of speakers. On the back of the right
#speaker is a jack that is labeled "subwoofer". I am assuming that
#this is where you can plug in a subwoofer.

I have a Harmon Kardon system that came with a Dell. The two satellite
midrange/tweeters plug into woofer, and the woofer plugs into the
computer. It sounds like a different arrangement than what you have.

#The speakers have the name, "Harman Kardon" on it. I talked to
#Harman/Kardon, and I was told that the speakers are are sold, made and
#serviced by HP
#and licensed under the Harman Kardon name...so I was told to talk to
#HP.

Another curse of our times... manufacturers shedding responsibility for
their name and their OEM products. If they would only read the number of
of "I'll never buy another unsupported (Brand X) again..." out their on
the Internet.

#The funny thing is that HP does not make a subwoofer that can be
#plugged into this connection.

Yes, it is shocking that they payed the extra 2 cents for a jack that is
not used. Most likely it is not connected. If it is, you need to know if
it is two or three conductor, what impedence, if it is amplified, etc.
It might have a switch that disconnects something when you plug a jack
into it.

#Anyways, any help/suggestions would be appreciated.

You could scan the Harmon Kardon product catalog and see if there is
an identical product out there, see what upgrades it has, if any.

You could take it apart and see if it is connected, if it is 2 or 3
conductor. Then use an ohmeter while it is not being used to make sense
of it a little, then an ammeter or oscilliscope while being used.

Ken.
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Dominique
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      01-17-2004, 05:05 PM
I have a Pavilion a265c and it came with the same speakers + a subwoofer

"Anthony" <> wrote in message
news: ...
> I purchased a Pavilion a375c desktop.
>
> The desktop came with a pair of speakers. On the back of the right
> speaker is a jack that is labeled "subwoofer". I am assuming that
> this is where you can plug in a subwoofer.
>
> The speakers have the name, "Harman Kardon" on it. I talked to
> Harman/Kardon, and I was told that the speakers are are sold, made and
> serviced by HP
> and licensed under the Harman Kardon name...so I was told to talk to
> HP.
>
> The funny thing is that HP does not make a subwoofer that can be
> plugged into this connection.
>
> Anyways, any help/suggestions would be appreciated.



 
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Ben Myers
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      01-17-2004, 05:27 PM
Yes, this is your typical OEM deal where both OEM manufacturer and name-brand
company walk away from the consumer as soon as the system ships out the door.
Same issue, more or less, with all the hardware inside a computer case, except
that when something inside fails there is a very limited warranty to cover
replacement in some manner.

The situation with computers is symtomatic of a fast-maturing anti-consumer
trend on the part of manufacturers and the government. Ralph Nader was dead
wrong to run for president several years ago, but I'd dearly like to see him at
the forefront of some serious consumer movement again... Ben Myers

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:04:10 GMT, (Ken Marsh) wrote:

>Hi,
>
>In article <>,
>Anthony <> wrote:
>#I purchased a Pavilion a375c desktop.
>
>#The desktop came with a pair of speakers. On the back of the right
>#speaker is a jack that is labeled "subwoofer". I am assuming that
>#this is where you can plug in a subwoofer.
>
>I have a Harmon Kardon system that came with a Dell. The two satellite
>midrange/tweeters plug into woofer, and the woofer plugs into the
>computer. It sounds like a different arrangement than what you have.
>
>#The speakers have the name, "Harman Kardon" on it. I talked to
>#Harman/Kardon, and I was told that the speakers are are sold, made and
>#serviced by HP
>#and licensed under the Harman Kardon name...so I was told to talk to
>#HP.
>
>Another curse of our times... manufacturers shedding responsibility for
>their name and their OEM products. If they would only read the number of
>of "I'll never buy another unsupported (Brand X) again..." out their on
>the Internet.
>
>#The funny thing is that HP does not make a subwoofer that can be
>#plugged into this connection.
>
>Yes, it is shocking that they payed the extra 2 cents for a jack that is
>not used. Most likely it is not connected. If it is, you need to know if
>it is two or three conductor, what impedence, if it is amplified, etc.
>It might have a switch that disconnects something when you plug a jack
>into it.
>
>#Anyways, any help/suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>You could scan the Harmon Kardon product catalog and see if there is
>an identical product out there, see what upgrades it has, if any.
>
>You could take it apart and see if it is connected, if it is 2 or 3
>conductor. Then use an ohmeter while it is not being used to make sense
>of it a little, then an ammeter or oscilliscope while being used.
>
>Ken.
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HRS
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      01-18-2004, 09:11 PM
ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers) wrote in message news:<>...
> Yes, this is your typical OEM deal where both OEM manufacturer and name-brand
> company walk away from the consumer as soon as the system ships out the door.
> Same issue, more or less, with all the hardware inside a computer case, except
> that when something inside fails there is a very limited warranty to cover
> replacement in some manner.
>
> The situation with computers is symtomatic of a fast-maturing anti-consumer
> trend on the part of manufacturers and the government. Ralph Nader was dead
> wrong to run for president several years ago, but I'd dearly like to see him at
> the forefront of some serious consumer movement again... Ben Myers
>
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:04:10 GMT, (Ken Marsh) wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >In article <>,
> >Anthony <> wrote:
> >#I purchased a Pavilion a375c desktop.
> >
> >#The desktop came with a pair of speakers. On the back of the right
> >#speaker is a jack that is labeled "subwoofer". I am assuming that
> >#this is where you can plug in a subwoofer.
> >
> >I have a Harmon Kardon system that came with a Dell. The two satellite
> >midrange/tweeters plug into woofer, and the woofer plugs into the
> >computer. It sounds like a different arrangement than what you have.
> >
> >#The speakers have the name, "Harman Kardon" on it. I talked to
> >#Harman/Kardon, and I was told that the speakers are are sold, made and
> >#serviced by HP
> >#and licensed under the Harman Kardon name...so I was told to talk to
> >#HP.
> >
> >Another curse of our times... manufacturers shedding responsibility for
> >their name and their OEM products. If they would only read the number of
> >of "I'll never buy another unsupported (Brand X) again..." out their on
> >the Internet.
> >
> >#The funny thing is that HP does not make a subwoofer that can be
> >#plugged into this connection.
> >
> >Yes, it is shocking that they payed the extra 2 cents for a jack that is
> >not used. Most likely it is not connected. If it is, you need to know if
> >it is two or three conductor, what impedence, if it is amplified, etc.
> >It might have a switch that disconnects something when you plug a jack
> >into it.
> >
> >#Anyways, any help/suggestions would be appreciated.
> >
> >You could scan the Harmon Kardon product catalog and see if there is
> >an identical product out there, see what upgrades it has, if any.
> >
> >You could take it apart and see if it is connected, if it is 2 or 3
> >conductor. Then use an ohmeter while it is not being used to make sense
> >of it a little, then an ammeter or oscilliscope while being used.
> >
> >Ken.
> >--
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Mail: kmarsh at charm dot net | Save the environment! Buy US-made
> > WWW: http://www.charm.net/~kmarsh | heavy industries products.
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------------



All I can recommend is that send the product back. Don't buy HP
product and boycott them until they learn to sell good products and
support their prodcuts.
 
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