IDE controller problem? Please help!

I've bought new harddisc Maxtor Diamondmax plus, and my problems start when
I try to insall it. I've connect it on the first IDE channel like master,
and the old harddisc IBM like slave. On the second IDE channel is dvd and
cd/rw devices. But the BIOS (AMIBIOS) didn't recognise any device! Same
happens when I connect everything like it was before boughting new harddisc.
I've tried all possible combinations of jumpers on the harddiscs, and few
diferent IDE cabels, but nothing worked. I've thought that IDE controller is
gone, but when I connect only dvd and cd/rw they are recognised no matter if
they are on the first or on the secod IDE channel!
What to do??
I will try to put new version of BIOS, but somehow I doubt that that will
help.
The motherboard is MSI KT3V.
Thanks!

tihi wrote:
> I've bought new harddisc Maxtor Diamondmax plus, and my problems start when
> I try to insall it. I've connect it on the first IDE channel like master,
> and the old harddisc IBM like slave. On the second IDE channel is dvd and
> cd/rw devices. But the BIOS (AMIBIOS) didn't recognise any device! Same
> happens when I connect everything like it was before boughting new harddisc.
> I've tried all possible combinations of jumpers on the harddiscs, and few
> diferent IDE cabels, but nothing worked. I've thought that IDE controller is
> gone, but when I connect only dvd and cd/rw they are recognised no matter if
> they are on the first or on the secod IDE channel!
> What to do??
> I will try to put new version of BIOS, but somehow I doubt that that will
> help.
> The motherboard is MSI KT3V.
> Thanks!
>
>
What are the jumper selector settings on the Maxtor drive? You probably
have a conflict in both drive settings being 'Master'? Double check all
the Jumper settings!
The IBM needs to become Slave, and the Maxtor should be Master

> tihi wrote:
> > I've bought new harddisc Maxtor Diamondmax plus, and my problems start
when
> > I try to insall it. I've connect it on the first IDE channel like
master,
> > and the old harddisc IBM like slave. On the second IDE channel is dvd
and
> > cd/rw devices. But the BIOS (AMIBIOS) didn't recognise any device! Same
> > happens when I connect everything like it was before boughting new
harddisc.
> > I've tried all possible combinations of jumpers on the harddiscs, and
few
> > diferent IDE cabels, but nothing worked. I've thought that IDE
controller is
> > gone, but when I connect only dvd and cd/rw they are recognised no
matter if
> > they are on the first or on the secod IDE channel!
> > What to do??
> > I will try to put new version of BIOS, but somehow I doubt that that
will
> > help.
> > The motherboard is MSI KT3V.
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> What are the jumper selector settings on the Maxtor drive? You probably
> have a conflict in both drive settings being 'Master'? Double check all
> the Jumper settings!
> The IBM needs to become Slave, and the Maxtor should be Master
>
I've done that and check a couple of times. I've tried all posibile
combinations.
The situation is when I connect everithing like was before purchasing new
harddisc it still wont work!
Is it possible that IDE controller is partialy broken, and is able to
recognise dvd and cd devices, but no harddiscs? Because this is the case
here!
I've put the new BIOS but nothing is changed..

On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 10:58:28 +0200, "tihi" <>
wrote:

>I've bought new harddisc Maxtor Diamondmax plus, and my problems start when
>I try to insall it. I've connect it on the first IDE channel like master,
>and the old harddisc IBM like slave. On the second IDE channel is dvd and
>cd/rw devices. But the BIOS (AMIBIOS) didn't recognise any device! Same
>happens when I connect everything like it was before boughting new harddisc.
>I've tried all possible combinations of jumpers on the harddiscs, and few
>diferent IDE cabels, but nothing worked. I've thought that IDE controller is
>gone, but when I connect only dvd and cd/rw they are recognised no matter if
>they are on the first or on the secod IDE channel!
>What to do??
>I will try to put new version of BIOS, but somehow I doubt that that will
>help.
>The motherboard is MSI KT3V.
>Thanks!
>

Try this.....put the new Maxtor as Primary IDE1, DVD as Secondary IDE1
and the old hard disk as Primary IDE2, CDRW as Secondary IDE2.



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On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 10:58:28 +0200, "tihi" <>
wrote:

>I've bought new harddisc Maxtor Diamondmax plus, and my problems start when
>I try to insall it. I've connect it on the first IDE channel like master,
>and the old harddisc IBM like slave. On the second IDE channel is dvd and
>cd/rw devices. But the BIOS (AMIBIOS) didn't recognise any device! Same
>happens when I connect everything like it was before boughting new harddisc.
>I've tried all possible combinations of jumpers on the harddiscs, and few
>diferent IDE cabels, but nothing worked. I've thought that IDE controller is
>gone, but when I connect only dvd and cd/rw they are recognised no matter if
>they are on the first or on the secod IDE channel!
>What to do??
>I will try to put new version of BIOS, but somehow I doubt that that will
>help.
>The motherboard is MSI KT3V.
>Thanks!
>

Try this.....put the new Maxtor as Primary IDE1, DVD as Secondary IDE1
and the old hard disk as Primary IDE2, CDRW as Secondary IDE2.



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In article <c5r448$jgm$>, tihi <>
writes
>> tihi wrote:
>> > The motherboard is MSI KT3V.
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> What are the jumper selector settings on the Maxtor drive? You probably
>> have a conflict in both drive settings being 'Master'? Double check all
>> the Jumper settings!
>> The IBM needs to become Slave, and the Maxtor should be Master
>>
>I've done that and check a couple of times. I've tried all posibile
>combinations.
>The situation is when I connect everithing like was before purchasing new
>harddisc it still wont work!
>Is it possible that IDE controller is partialy broken, and is able to
>recognise dvd and cd devices, but no harddiscs? Because this is the case
>here!
>I've put the new BIOS but nothing is changed..
>
>
Not very likely an IDE partially broken. If what you say is correct and
you HAVE tried all possibilities (including just plugging the original
hard drive in on its own on either port and ensuring the jumper settings
are spot on), then more likely is the hard drive has become damaged,
though even this seems unlikely. No bent pins anywhere are there? With
the case open do you hear the HD spin up on boot up? Is the power
connector to the HD in properly? Recheck absolutely everything.
Sometimes the obvious can get overlooked.
--
Peter Ives
Remove ALL_STRESS only before sending me an email

tihi wrote:

> I've bought new harddisc Maxtor Diamondmax plus, and my problems start when
> I try to insall it. I've connect it on the first IDE channel like master,
> and the old harddisc IBM like slave. On the second IDE channel is dvd and
> cd/rw devices. But the BIOS (AMIBIOS) didn't recognise any device! Same
> happens when I connect everything like it was before boughting new harddisc.
> I've tried all possible combinations of jumpers on the harddiscs, and few
> diferent IDE cabels, but nothing worked. I've thought that IDE controller is
> gone, but when I connect only dvd and cd/rw they are recognised no matter if
> they are on the first or on the secod IDE channel!
> What to do??
> I will try to put new version of BIOS, but somehow I doubt that that will
> help.
> The motherboard is MSI KT3V.
> Thanks!
>
>

Set both hard drives to cable select and put the new one on the end
connector, assuming you want it to be master.

If that doesn't work then try the new drive all alone with none of the
others connected. If it still isn't detected then you may have a bad drive.

Hmm..., maybe a little too obvious, but you *do* have the IDE cable oriented
correctly, right?! (the blue connector goes to the mobo, the black and grey
go to the HDs). Considering that when you go back to the old config, it's
doesn't work anymore, this got me to thinking perhaps you've just installed
it backwards.

Anyway, just speculating.

HTH

Jim


"tihi" <> wrote in message
news:c5qrfk$68q$...
> I've bought new harddisc Maxtor Diamondmax plus, and my problems start
when
> I try to insall it. I've connect it on the first IDE channel like master,
> and the old harddisc IBM like slave. On the second IDE channel is dvd and
> cd/rw devices. But the BIOS (AMIBIOS) didn't recognise any device! Same
> happens when I connect everything like it was before boughting new
harddisc.
> I've tried all possible combinations of jumpers on the harddiscs, and few
> diferent IDE cabels, but nothing worked. I've thought that IDE controller
is
> gone, but when I connect only dvd and cd/rw they are recognised no matter
if
> they are on the first or on the secod IDE channel!
> What to do??
> I will try to put new version of BIOS, but somehow I doubt that that will
> help.
> The motherboard is MSI KT3V.
> Thanks!
>
>

> >> > The motherboard is MSI KT3V.
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> What are the jumper selector settings on the Maxtor drive? You
probably
> >> have a conflict in both drive settings being 'Master'? Double check
all
> >> the Jumper settings!
> >> The IBM needs to become Slave, and the Maxtor should be Master
> >>
> >I've done that and check a couple of times. I've tried all posibile
> >combinations.
> >The situation is when I connect everithing like was before purchasing new
> >harddisc it still wont work!
> >Is it possible that IDE controller is partialy broken, and is able to
> >recognise dvd and cd devices, but no harddiscs? Because this is the case
> >here!
> >I've put the new BIOS but nothing is changed..
> >
> >
> Not very likely an IDE partially broken. If what you say is correct and
> you HAVE tried all possibilities (including just plugging the original
> hard drive in on its own on either port and ensuring the jumper settings
> are spot on), then more likely is the hard drive has become damaged,
> though even this seems unlikely. No bent pins anywhere are there? With
> the case open do you hear the HD spin up on boot up? Is the power
> connector to the HD in properly? Recheck absolutely everything.
> Sometimes the obvious can get overlooked.
> --
> Peter Ives
> Remove ALL_STRESS only before sending me an email

You have been right. On the old hard two pins were broken. I've fix that and
the old harddisc is working properly now.
But the problem with new Maxtor drive still remains. I heard that he is
spinning, and it is partionaly recognised in BIOS (under IDE settings BIOS
corectly writes that the primary master is Maxtor, but BIOS can't read its
size). I've downladed Maxtor aplication for making partitions and formating,
but this aplication also can't see the drive.
Is there any special procedure for installing new (large 120M) harddrive?

"Jim" wrote :
> Hmm..., maybe a little too obvious, but you *do* have the IDE cable
oriented
> correctly, right?! (the blue connector goes to the mobo, the black and
grey
> go to the HDs). Considering that when you go back to the old config, it's
> doesn't work anymore, this got me to thinking perhaps you've just
installed
> it backwards.
>
> Anyway, just speculating.
>
> HTH
>
> Jim
>


I've check the cable orientation couple of times, but the problem is not
there. There was couple pins on old hard broken, I've fix that and now it is
working, but the problem with new drive remains.