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D.F. Manno
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      06-09-2009, 07:27 PM


In article <MeetMe- >,
Gerry <> wrote:

> Per Rønne wrote:
> > Michelle Steiner wrote:
> > > Davoud wrote:
> > >
> > > > For new AT&T Customers - not bad.
> > > >
> > > > For existing AT&T customers - holy s**t!
> > >
> > > Actually, for existing AT&T customers who have had their phones for at
> > > least 17 months, not bad.

> >
> > Poor Americans. We Danes can change iPhone carrier after six months -
> > according to Danish law.

>
> But, do you have a Disney Land, let alone a World?


The lack of a Disney money machine is a point in favor of Denmark, if
you ask me.

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Loren Finkelstein
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      06-09-2009, 07:43 PM
In article <080620091846531537%>, Davoud <>
wrote:

> For new AT&T Customers - not bad.
>
> For existing AT&T customers - holy s**t!
>
> Apple and AT&T appear not to want existing iPhone owners to upgrade.
> OK. Wonder what kind of deals RIM, Palm, and the Google Phone carriers
> are offering for switchers?


You'll have to pay either way. Getting out of your contract is almost
as expensive as upgrading early.
 
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      06-09-2009, 11:50 PM
Davoud:
> > For new AT&T Customers - not bad.
> >
> > For existing AT&T customers - holy s**t!
> >
> > Apple and AT&T appear not to want existing iPhone owners to upgrade.
> > OK. Wonder what kind of deals RIM, Palm, and the Google Phone carriers
> > are offering for switchers?


Loren Finkelstein:
> You'll have to pay either way. Getting out of your contract is almost
> as expensive as upgrading early.


True, true. But we're talking about different things; you're talking
common sense, while I'm talking revenge.

Besides, a switch would cost AT&T a _whole_ lot more than it would cost
me; Verizon has offered me all kinds of incentives to come back,
including Chrysler's accounts receivable and a free deck
power-washing....

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Per Rønne
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      06-10-2009, 04:25 AM
Davoud <> wrote:

> Verizon has offered me all kinds of incentives to come back,
> including Chrysler's accounts receivable


Aren't Chrysler [and General Motor] bankrupt?

Aren't Americans going to drive Korean cars in the future? And the new
Indian 'Nano' ?

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      06-10-2009, 03:44 PM
Davoud:
> > Verizon has offered me all kinds of incentives to come back,
> > including Chrysler's accounts receivable


Per Rønne wrote:
> Aren't Chrysler [and General Motor] bankrupt?


Indeed. That was the joke; Chrysler _has_ _no_ accounts receivable to
speak of.

This is, in part, the legacy of the Reagan-Bush version of
economics--you can spend without limit and you never have to pay the
bills. The Bushites--there are still a dozen or so of them--are enraged
and perplexed by Obama's popularity and his intelligence, so they have
cranked up the lie machine to full speed. No one is listening.

> Aren't Americans going to drive Korean cars in the future? And the new
> Indian 'Nano' ?


Not I. I'll be keeping my Prius, maybe adding a Smart Cabriolet to the
stable.

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Per Rønne
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      06-10-2009, 04:16 PM
Davoud <> wrote:

> Davoud:
> > > Verizon has offered me all kinds of incentives to come back,
> > > including Chrysler's accounts receivable

>
> Per Rønne wrote:
> > Aren't Chrysler [and General Motor] bankrupt?

>
> Indeed. That was the joke; Chrysler _has_ _no_ accounts receivable to
> speak of.
>
> This is, in part, the legacy of the Reagan-Bush version of
> economics--you can spend without limit and you never have to pay the
> bills. The Bushites--there are still a dozen or so of them--are enraged
> and perplexed by Obama's popularity and his intelligence, so they have
> cranked up the lie machine to full speed. No one is listening.
>
> > Aren't Americans going to drive Korean cars in the future? And the new
> > Indian 'Nano' ?

>
> Not I. I'll be keeping my Prius, maybe adding a Smart Cabriolet to the
> stable.


Half the inhabitants of Copenhagen, Denmark, stick to bicycles ...

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      06-10-2009, 04:48 PM
Per Rønne wrote:
> Davoud <> wrote:
>
>> Davoud:
>>>> Verizon has offered me all kinds of incentives to come back,
>>>> including Chrysler's accounts receivable

>> Per Rønne wrote:
>>> Aren't Chrysler [and General Motor] bankrupt?

>> Indeed. That was the joke; Chrysler _has_ _no_ accounts receivable to
>> speak of.
>>
>> This is, in part, the legacy of the Reagan-Bush version of
>> economics--you can spend without limit and you never have to pay the
>> bills. The Bushites--there are still a dozen or so of them--are enraged
>> and perplexed by Obama's popularity and his intelligence, so they have
>> cranked up the lie machine to full speed. No one is listening.
>>
>>> Aren't Americans going to drive Korean cars in the future? And the new
>>> Indian 'Nano' ?

>> Not I. I'll be keeping my Prius, maybe adding a Smart Cabriolet to the
>> stable.

>
> Half the inhabitants of Copenhagen, Denmark, stick to bicycles ...
>
> <http://www.copenhagenize.com/>



And I bet at least some of them are made in Denmark, home of Christiania....

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Per Rønne
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      06-10-2009, 04:54 PM
John McWilliams <> wrote:

> Per Rønne wrote:
> > Davoud <> wrote:
> >
> >> Davoud:
> >>>> Verizon has offered me all kinds of incentives to come back,
> >>>> including Chrysler's accounts receivable
> >> Per Rønne wrote:
> >>> Aren't Chrysler [and General Motor] bankrupt?
> >> Indeed. That was the joke; Chrysler _has_ _no_ accounts receivable to
> >> speak of.
> >>
> >> This is, in part, the legacy of the Reagan-Bush version of
> >> economics--you can spend without limit and you never have to pay the
> >> bills. The Bushites--there are still a dozen or so of them--are enraged
> >> and perplexed by Obama's popularity and his intelligence, so they have
> >> cranked up the lie machine to full speed. No one is listening.
> >>
> >>> Aren't Americans going to drive Korean cars in the future? And the new
> >>> Indian 'Nano' ?
> >> Not I. I'll be keeping my Prius, maybe adding a Smart Cabriolet to the
> >> stable.

> >
> > Half the inhabitants of Copenhagen, Denmark, stick to bicycles ...
> >
> > <http://www.copenhagenize.com/>

>
>
> And I bet at least some of them are made in Denmark, home of Christiania....


Well, my Kildemoes bicycle isn't made in Christiania, neither in the
Norwegian capital nor in the area of Copenhagen.

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      06-10-2009, 06:33 PM
Per RønneL
> Half the inhabitants of Copenhagen, Denmark, stick to bicycles ...


No doubt.

Copenhagen metro area: 1.9 million.

Washington, D.C. metro area: 5.3 million. And Washington is a smallish
city by U.S. standards.

Size of the U.S.: Approximately 228 Denmarks.

Direct statistical comparisons are difficult.

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Per Rønne
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      06-11-2009, 03:06 AM
Davoud <> wrote:

> Per RønneL
> > Half the inhabitants of Copenhagen, Denmark, stick to bicycles ...

>
> No doubt.
>
> Copenhagen metro area: 1.9 million.


And few people from the Copenhagen suburbs take the bike to job or
school in Central Copenhagen. Bicycles are only useful within distances
at around 10 km.

> Washington, D.C. metro area: 5.3 million. And Washington is a smallish
> city by U.S. standards.


Well, Western Scania could be said to be part of Metropolitan Copenhagen
too. The total population of Zealand and Scania, the area where it is
common to work in downtown Copenhagen, is around four million.

> Size of the U.S.: Approximately 228 Denmarks.


Then, the US should be compared to the EU, not to Denmark. Probably,
Denmark should be compared to Massachusetts and Copenhagen to Boston.

> Direct statistical comparisons are difficult.



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