K7S5A and USB 2.0

Smoker wrote:

> <> wrote in message news:...
> > larrymoencurly wrote:
> >
> > > "Smoker" <> wrote in message
> news:<d917d.4280$OX.1464@trndny07>...
> > >
> > > > I put a USB 2 card in my K7S5A using Win98. It didn't come with
> > > > any drivers. Windows detected and installed it just fine. There
> > > > is a yellow (!) in Device Manager beside Other Devices, realizing
> > > > it is a USB and doesn't recognize version 2 I guess. In the USB
> > > > section it shows VIA as being the controllers.
> > > > Never had a problem with it.
> > >
> > > But are you getting USB 2.0 speed with it? Because without the USB
> > > 2.0 driver installed, it works only in USB 1.1 modes, at least with
> > > Win98 and Win98SE. I had this happen with an ALi-based USB 2.0 card
> > > and Win98 because its driver was required Win98SE or later. The
> > > current VIA driver is 2.58, which fixes some wake-up problems with
> > > Win98-ME.
> > >
>
> No, I didn't have the driver for USB 2 and didn't think it would work with
> Win98, believing USB 2 was only possible starting with 98SE and with some
> type of upgrade requested from M$.
>
> >>
> > > www.pricewatch.com lists some dealers that have NEC-based USB 2.0
> > > cards for as little as $10, and these seem to be more compatible with
> > > hardware than all others, and they support Win98. But some dealers
> > > will ship you a card based on a different chipset without telling you.
> >
> > Where can I get the Via 2.58 driver? I did not see it listed on the ECS
> K7S5A
> > website.
> > Thanks
> > gm
> >
> If you would look for it on Google, thousands of pages come up where you can
> download it. It's a good idea if you learn to use Google before coming here,
> then we don't have to do it for you and you'll be better able to help
> yourself in the future.

A Google search of the string [K7s5a driver "Via 2.58"] returns zero hits. I
was assuming that the person making the post in the first place would know a
location that was relavent to K7s5a and the Via 2.58 driver. I don't believe
asking for this was out of line anymore than your response!
gm

wrote in message news:<>...

> > larrymoencurly wrote:

> > without the USB 2.0 driver installed, it works only in USB 1.1
> > modes, at least with Win98 and Win98SE. The current VIA driver
> is 2.58, which fixes some wake-up problems with Win98-ME.

> Where can I get the Via 2.58 driver? I did not see it listed on
> the ECS K7S5A website.

> A Google search of the string [K7s5a driver "Via 2.58"] returns
> zero hits.

Sometimes a search can be too specific, as Al Franken showed his last
book, Lies And The Lying Liars Who Tell Them, pp. 15-16. But a search
for just "VIA 2.58" returned lots of hits, including from ECS, Soyo,
and DFI, and generally any VIA download can be found at
www.viaarena.com, which also has several forums.

<> wrote in message news:...
> Smoker wrote:
>
> > <> wrote in message news:...
> > > larrymoencurly wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Smoker" <> wrote in message
> > news:<d917d.4280$OX.1464@trndny07>...
> > > >
> > > > > I put a USB 2 card in my K7S5A using Win98. It didn't come with
> > > > > any drivers. Windows detected and installed it just fine. There
> > > > > is a yellow (!) in Device Manager beside Other Devices, realizing
> > > > > it is a USB and doesn't recognize version 2 I guess. In the USB
> > > > > section it shows VIA as being the controllers.
> > > > > Never had a problem with it.
> > > >
> > > > But are you getting USB 2.0 speed with it? Because without the USB
> > > > 2.0 driver installed, it works only in USB 1.1 modes, at least with
> > > > Win98 and Win98SE. I had this happen with an ALi-based USB 2.0 card
> > > > and Win98 because its driver was required Win98SE or later. The
> > > > current VIA driver is 2.58, which fixes some wake-up problems with
> > > > Win98-ME.
> > > >
> >
> > No, I didn't have the driver for USB 2 and didn't think it would work
with
> > Win98, believing USB 2 was only possible starting with 98SE and with
some
> > type of upgrade requested from M$.
> >
> > >>
> > > > www.pricewatch.com lists some dealers that have NEC-based USB 2.0
> > > > cards for as little as $10, and these seem to be more compatible
with
> > > > hardware than all others, and they support Win98. But some dealers
> > > > will ship you a card based on a different chipset without telling
you.
> > >
> > > Where can I get the Via 2.58 driver? I did not see it listed on the
ECS
> > K7S5A
> > > website.
> > > Thanks
> > > gm
> > >
> > If you would look for it on Google, thousands of pages come up where you
can
> > download it. It's a good idea if you learn to use Google before coming
here,
> > then we don't have to do it for you and you'll be better able to help
> > yourself in the future.
>
> A Google search of the string [K7s5a driver "Via 2.58"] returns zero
hits. I
> was assuming that the person making the post in the first place would know
a
> location that was relavent to K7s5a and the Via 2.58 driver. I don't
believe
> asking for this was out of line anymore than your response!
> gm
>
Simply type: Via 2.58 and click Search. K7S5A is not relevant to what
you're looking for. How could ECS know you were going to buy a VIA
controlled USB 2 card and install it in their mobo? There's no reason they
should supply that driver "just in case" someone using an old OS that works
with their USB 1.1 cares to upgrade, that's on you or if you bought the
K7S5A Pro, it comes with USB 2.

Smoker wrote:

> <> wrote in message news:...
> > Smoker wrote:
> >
> > > <> wrote in message news:...
> > > > larrymoencurly wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Smoker" <> wrote in message
> > > news:<d917d.4280$OX.1464@trndny07>...
> > > > >
> > > > > > I put a USB 2 card in my K7S5A using Win98. It didn't come with
> > > > > > any drivers. Windows detected and installed it just fine. There
> > > > > > is a yellow (!) in Device Manager beside Other Devices, realizing
> > > > > > it is a USB and doesn't recognize version 2 I guess. In the USB
> > > > > > section it shows VIA as being the controllers.
> > > > > > Never had a problem with it.
> > > > >
> > > > > But are you getting USB 2.0 speed with it? Because without the USB
> > > > > 2.0 driver installed, it works only in USB 1.1 modes, at least with
> > > > > Win98 and Win98SE. I had this happen with an ALi-based USB 2.0 card
> > > > > and Win98 because its driver was required Win98SE or later. The
> > > > > current VIA driver is 2.58, which fixes some wake-up problems with
> > > > > Win98-ME.
> > > > >
> > >
> > > No, I didn't have the driver for USB 2 and didn't think it would work
> with
> > > Win98, believing USB 2 was only possible starting with 98SE and with
> some
> > > type of upgrade requested from M$.
> > >
> > > >>
> > > > > www.pricewatch.com lists some dealers that have NEC-based USB 2.0
> > > > > cards for as little as $10, and these seem to be more compatible
> with
> > > > > hardware than all others, and they support Win98. But some dealers
> > > > > will ship you a card based on a different chipset without telling
> you.
> > > >
> > > > Where can I get the Via 2.58 driver? I did not see it listed on the
> ECS
> > > K7S5A
> > > > website.
> > > > Thanks
> > > > gm
> > > >
> > > If you would look for it on Google, thousands of pages come up where you
> can
> > > download it. It's a good idea if you learn to use Google before coming
> here,
> > > then we don't have to do it for you and you'll be better able to help
> > > yourself in the future.
> >
> > A Google search of the string [K7s5a driver "Via 2.58"] returns zero
> hits. I
> > was assuming that the person making the post in the first place would know
> a
> > location that was relavent to K7s5a and the Via 2.58 driver. I don't
> believe
> > asking for this was out of line anymore than your response!
> > gm
> >
> Simply type: Via 2.58 and click Search. K7S5A is not relevant to what
> you're looking for. How could ECS know you were going to buy a VIA
> controlled USB 2 card and install it in their mobo? There's no reason they
> should supply that driver "just in case" someone using an old OS that works
> with their USB 1.1 cares to upgrade, that's on you or if you bought the
> K7S5A Pro, it comes with USB 2.

My bad, I was under the impression that this driver was needed by my K7s5a mobo,
not a card! Thanks for clearing that up.
gm

larrymoencurly wrote:

> wrote in message news:<>...
>
> > > larrymoencurly wrote:
>
> > > without the USB 2.0 driver installed, it works only in USB 1.1
> > > modes, at least with Win98 and Win98SE. The current VIA driver
> > is 2.58, which fixes some wake-up problems with Win98-ME.
>
> > Where can I get the Via 2.58 driver? I did not see it listed on
> > the ECS K7S5A website.
>
> > A Google search of the string [K7s5a driver "Via 2.58"] returns
> > zero hits.
>
> Sometimes a search can be too specific, as Al Franken showed his last
> book, Lies And The Lying Liars Who Tell Them, pp. 15-16. But a search
> for just "VIA 2.58" returned lots of hits, including from ECS, Soyo,
> and DFI, and generally any VIA download can be found at
> www.viaarena.com, which also has several forums.

Thanks, for some reason I was thinking I needed these drivers for my k7s5a
motherboard, which Smoker just clarified, so I don't need them at this time,
where ever they come from!
gm