k7s5a. forgot cpu fan, now what?

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:08:11 -0800 Sat down laughing as it's habit to
keep on crying then "webrumor" <> wrote :

>thanks pj. were at VA in portland on 1/13 and will pick up whatever is on
>sale. i'll check "oregonian" today and this weekend. your thoughtful.
> Shep indicated boards that can read heat in cpu and then shut down if
>overheated. that's nice. when i get the new combo and my coolermaster
>(copper core/rheostat sp for fan) running i'll report back.
>"PJx" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .



My old ECS K7S5A died a while back(my fault-ish) and I'm now using an
Asrock k7s8xe
Re-badged Asus board.This has a,"No CPU fan" detection as do the very
cheap JetWay V266b boards.However I had to return one locally as it
had a faulty BIOS but the two I've used recently for builds also have
the above protection and thermal shutdown protection.
Even the Asrock I use had to be returned(bought locally though) and it
had a faulty PCI slot so even more expensive boards still have crap
Q/C but once I got a good one it's boringly stable.nothing to do to it
really<grin>.But with me that won't last<BFG>





>> Sad story.
>>
>> Fryes Electronics had a combo new duron and new motherboard for
>> $39.00.
>> PJ
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 15:58:20 -0800, "webrumor" <>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >shep: first off thanks for the prompt reply. it was just 5 seconds or so
>on.
>> >the case was not hooked up to monitor or anything with no os yet
>installed.
>> >i touched (like a fool) the back of the duron after p/s shut down: it was
>> >very very hot. i'm thinking your right. but i had already ordered a stick
>of
>> >512 pc 2100 kingston. i may drive to portland and get a new combo athlon
>> >offer. i guess the stick of 2100 will work in a newer elite board. i
>don't
>> >have to use the ddr 3200 or 2700 i presume. (p.s.: grandma and i still
>use
>> >the fic 503+ and k6 2 350)
>> >"Shep©" <> wrote in message
>> >news:.. .
>> >> On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 15:06:38 -0800 Sat down laughing as it's habit to
>> >> keep on crying then "webrumor" <> wrote :
>> >>
>> >> >i'm old, forgive me. my son mailed me the old board with duron
>inserted.
>> >i
>> >> >installed it in a new case and so forth. got in a hurry and just
>couldn't
>> >> >wait to see if case worked after installing power button lead to
>board,
>> >> >forgetting i didn't have the cpu fan. the new case and p/s started
>fine,
>> >but
>> >> >shut down Immediately.
>> >> >now, 2 weeks later, i've got all my parts,less memory. set up the cpu
>> >> >coolermaster and when i plugged case into a/c, the cpu fan stutters
>for a
>> >> >brief second, and stops. the case power supply doesn't even seem to
>> >start.
>> >> >is there a fuse i could check? is the duron toast? how can i check?
>> >> >thanks, tony, oregon
>> >>
>> >> Most likely toast :/
>> >> Yep.They can,"Super-heat" that fast and unlike some better boards they
>> >> don't have a CPU fan detection to stop users doing this.Sorry :/
>> >> Good news is Durons are pretty cheap now
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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"Shep©" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:08:11 -0800 Sat down laughing as it's habit to
> keep on crying then "webrumor" <> wrote :
>
> >thanks pj. were at VA in portland on 1/13 and will pick up whatever is on
> >sale. i'll check "oregonian" today and this weekend. your thoughtful.
> > Shep indicated boards that can read heat in cpu and then shut down if
> >overheated. that's nice. when i get the new combo and my coolermaster
> >(copper core/rheostat sp for fan) running i'll report back.
>
> My old ECS K7S5A died a while back(my fault-ish) and I'm not using an
> Asrock k7s8xe
> Re-badged Asus board.This has a,"No CPU fan" detection as do the very
> cheap JetWay V266b boards.However I had to return one locally as it
> had a faulty BIOS but the two I've used recently for builds also have
> the above protection and thermal shutdown protection.
> Even the Asrock I use had to be returned(bought locally though) and it
> had a faulty PCI slot so even more expensive boards still have crap
> Q/C but once I got a good one it's boringly stable.nothing to do to it
> really<grin>.But with me that won't last<BFG>

I have moved on to these Syntax SV266A boards from E Buyer at about £17 ish.
Very stable but not for novice builders, the setup CD is a nightmare and the
autosetup routine installs the wrong sound drivers! And guess what? No lost
CMOS problems, not power supply fussy and doesn't mind 2 sticks of SDRAM.
Not sure about no CPU fan protection though, but there are configurable CPU
temp. options in the BIOS.
>

"webrumor" <> wrote in message news:<>...

> set up the cpu coolermaster and when i plugged case into a/c,
> the cpu fan stutters for a brief second, and stops. the case
> power supply doesn't even seem to start. is there a fuse i
> could check? is the duron toast? how can i check?

I was surprised that the K7S5A didn't have a temperature alarm or
shutdown system built into its BIOS, so I resorted to a hardware
solution like a bimetal thermostatic switch attached to the heatsink
and shorts the power button wires when the CPU reaches about 60C. If
you install this, first test its trigger temperature because some
don't trigger until more than 10C hotter. I instead used a thermistor
and an electronic circuit because I had the parts for it and it's
easier to change the setting to allow testing at lower temperatures,
unlike the case with a bimetal switch.

That $40 Fry's ECS K7VTA3 mobo/1.6 GHz Duron that PJx mentioned does
have a high-temperature shutdown feature in its BIOS, selectable for
65-70C. But I don't have the guts to verify that it works.

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:26:14 -0000 Sat down laughing as it's habit to
keep on crying then "Mr. Slow"
<> wrote :

>
>"Shep©" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:08:11 -0800 Sat down laughing as it's habit to
>> keep on crying then "webrumor" <> wrote :
>>
>> >thanks pj. were at VA in portland on 1/13 and will pick up whatever is on
>> >sale. i'll check "oregonian" today and this weekend. your thoughtful.
>> > Shep indicated boards that can read heat in cpu and then shut down if
>> >overheated. that's nice. when i get the new combo and my coolermaster
>> >(copper core/rheostat sp for fan) running i'll report back.
>>
>> My old ECS K7S5A died a while back(my fault-ish) and I'm not using an
>> Asrock k7s8xe
>> Re-badged Asus board.This has a,"No CPU fan" detection as do the very
>> cheap JetWay V266b boards.However I had to return one locally as it
>> had a faulty BIOS but the two I've used recently for builds also have
>> the above protection and thermal shutdown protection.
>> Even the Asrock I use had to be returned(bought locally though) and it
>> had a faulty PCI slot so even more expensive boards still have crap
>> Q/C but once I got a good one it's boringly stable.nothing to do to it
>> really<grin>.But with me that won't last<BFG>
>
>I have moved on to these Syntax SV266A boards from E Buyer at about £17 ish.
>Very stable but not for novice builders, the setup CD is a nightmare and the
>autosetup routine installs the wrong sound drivers! And guess what? No lost
>CMOS problems, not power supply fussy and doesn't mind 2 sticks of SDRAM.
>Not sure about no CPU fan protection though, but there are configurable CPU
>temp. options in the BIOS.
>>
>

I've fitted a couple of Jetway v266b boards.Again one had to be
returned but the two good ones were a doddle to setup.Very slick with
Sdram using the RAM 4-way interleaving




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