KT600-A mobo with power but no POST

"Gareth Tuckwell" <> wrote in message news:<utx9d.292$>...
> > Wow, I had no idea the foam could be conductive!
> > My concern was with heat, but never did I ever consider it to be a
> > conduction issue.
> > So, it's OK to have the board resting resting against the back of the
> > case??
>
> NO NO NO!!! The motherboard conducts electricity around the various
> components. On the back of the board are lots of metal 'bits' that must not
> touch anything conductive otherwise it will, at best, not work and at worst,
> blow up!
>

Sorry, the text didn't convey my verbal incredulousness. =) I meant to
imply that I did not believe it was a good idea to do so, while trying
to get across an assumed question of what the alternative is.
In deed, I do see about 10 brass hex screws, with a male on one end
and female on the other. I'd considered if those were necessary, but
they seem so tall that I didn't (and still don't) think that the board
will be able to sit down far enough for the I/O section to fit in the
cut hole in the case.
But, I'll give it a try when the board comes back. Since, well, that's
the way it's supposed to work. =)

>
> > Oh, and in answer to another reply, yeah, the clear CMOS jumper was in
> > normal position. But thanks for the suggestion. That one got me a
> > couple of years ago. =)
>
> Was still worth suggesting! Sometime we automatically assume it is something
> complicated and the obvious things can slip past us!

:::nods::: Oh no, it's cool. I've been doing tech support in one way
or another for about 7 years no, and now and then when I'm not paying
attention I still get thrown by something simply not being plugged in.
=)

Thanks for the replies!
Liam

(If this is a duplicate post, Sorry. My news client crashed in
mid-send.)

"Gareth Tuckwell" <> wrote in message news:<utx9d.292$>...
> > Wow, I had no idea the foam could be conductive!
> > My concern was with heat, but never did I ever consider it to be a
> > conduction issue.
> > So, it's OK to have the board resting resting against the back of the
> > case??
>
> NO NO NO!!! The motherboard conducts electricity around the various
> components. On the back of the board are lots of metal 'bits' that must not
> touch anything conductive otherwise it will, at best, not work and at worst,
> blow up!
>

Sorry, the text didn't convey my verbal incredulousness. =) I meant to
imply that I did not believe it was a good idea to do so, while trying
to get across an assumed question of what the alternative is.
In deed, I do see about 10 brass hex screws, with a male on one end
and female on the other. I'd considered if those were necessary, but
they seem so tall that I didn't (and still don't) think that the board
will be able to sit down far enough for the I/O section to fit in the
cut hole in the case.
But, I'll give it a try when the board comes back. Since, well, that's
the way it's supposed to work. =)

>
> > Oh, and in answer to another reply, yeah, the clear CMOS jumper was in
> > normal position. But thanks for the suggestion. That one got me a
> > couple of years ago. =)
>
> Was still worth suggesting! Sometime we automatically assume it is something
> complicated and the obvious things can slip past us!

:::nods::: Oh no, it's cool. I've been doing tech support in one way
or another for about 7 years no, and now and then when I'm not paying
attention I still get thrown by something simply not being plugged in.
=)

Thanks for the replies!
Liam

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:08:14 -0700, LRW wrote:

> Wow, I had no idea the foam could be conductive!
> My concern was with heat, but never did I ever consider it to be a
> conduction issue.
> So, it's OK to have the board resting resting against the back of the
> case??

No. Your case should have come with standoffs. the most common type are
brass that screw into to MB plate and then the MB screws into them. It
could also have some plastic standoffs that some case manufactures also
use in certain locations so there will be a mix of screwin standoffs, and
plastic standoffs.

> The back panel of the case is flat metal with screw holes. Nothing to
> lift the board up from touching the back of the case. Which is why I
> left the foam on (thinking the foam would NOT be a conductor.)
> The case and board are new; should one of them have come with
> something to lift the board? I can't imagine it though, since the I/O
> section of the board fits perfectly in the cut square in the case. If
> it was lifted any higher it wouldn't fit in there.
>
Explained above.

> I already RMA'ed the board as DOA since I tested it with only the PSU,
> a known working CPU, vid card, RAM, and PC speaker, and still no POST.
> I guess when the replacement comes I'll be sure to not use the foam.
> =)
>
And you better use the standoffs too or you may be RMAing another board.
What you really need to do is find someone that knows what they're doing
to help you.:-)

Oh, there's also PC assembly guides on the net. Might try tomshardware or
anandtech.com. I think I saw one listed at one or both of the sites. I
haven't looked at them, but they should at least cover the basics. Hmmm...

Results 1 - 10 of about 16,800 for installing standoffs - 0.20 sec.

http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000421.htm

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http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm

Here's one with pictures.

http://biorobots.cwru.edu/server/how...omp/mountmobo/

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"Big_Jerk" <> wrote in message
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> Could be a cheap power supply not giving the power good signal back to the
> mobo.
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I agree. It takes 3 watts to spin a fan and almost nothing to make LEDs
light up. Doesn't mean the PSU has enough to get you up and running. The
power supply is the heart of your system and people still want to buy the
cheapest 300W unit they can find, then wonder what happened when they get
problems.


>
>
> "LRW" <> wrote in message
> news: om...
> > Brand new ECS KT600-A mobo.
> > No matter what hardware I have plugged in, even if no hardware, I get
> > no POST beeps at all.
> > It gets power because fans plugged into the mobo turn on, keyboard
> > lights turn on, etc, but it never starts a POST.
> > I can have a known working video card and known working RAM plugged in
> > and the CPU fan (in the right place) and nothing else, and the PC
> > speaker (the right direction on the pins,) and I still get no beeps at
> > all.
> > Of course it goes without saying if I get no POST I also get nothing
> > on the screen. The monitor's power light comes on solid at the very
> > beginning of the power on, but then goes to flashing like it's getting
> > no signal.
> >
> > Any ideas what it could be? Or what I can do to narrow down the
> > problem?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Liam
>
>
>
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On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 01:16:27 GMT, "Smoker" <> wrote:

>
>"Big_Jerk" <> wrote in message
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>> Could be a cheap power supply not giving the power good signal back to the
>> mobo.
>---
>I agree. It takes 3 watts to spin a fan and almost nothing to make LEDs
>light up. Doesn't mean the PSU has enough to get you up and running. The
>power supply is the heart of your system and people still want to buy the
>cheapest 300W unit they can find, then wonder what happened when they get
>problems.
>

Well I had the exact same symptoms with a K7VTA3 board.
It would start spinning the fans, but no POST or video.
Finally bought me a power supply tester and figured out
the power supply was bad (cheap Kyoto).
Replaced power supply and problem solved.

But he may have other problems since he mounted the
foam under the board.

Wes Newell <> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.10.08.20.34.35.68486@TAKEOUTverizon .net>...

> No. Your case should have come with standoffs. the most common type are
> brass that screw into to MB plate and then the MB screws into them. It
> could also have some plastic standoffs that some case manufactures also
> use in certain locations so there will be a mix of screwin standoffs, and
> plastic standoffs.
>

Well, I guess I'll never know if the 1st board was really bad or
not...but by the sounds of it, I'm really doubting it was.

Got the new one, and installed it without the padding and on the brass
stays and guess what! Works like a charm. =)

So, now I know.
Thanks for all the help and suggestions everyone!
Liam

Unbelivable
The moron didn't put the standoffs in the case!! And gets all these
replies??