Mail 4.1 in Snow Leopard

Have had new iMac with Snow Leopard since mid Oct. Sending mail is
unsatisafctory because of slow speed... 30 seconds for a one sentence
email.

Mail 4.1 Mac OS v 10.6.1

On previous iMac with Mail 3.X on Tiger OS was not a problem. Speed
test indicates upload with new speed is fine as is FTP. Using same
DSL modem and same ISP.

Have miniMac with Tiger and Mail 3.x and not a problem. It shares same
modem and same ISP. Have carefully checked (with supervision of Apple
Tech support and ISP Tech support) and every setting in both mail
applications is identical. Also webmail works fine.

Is there a bug in Mail 4.1? If not, what cause this and what is the
solution?

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<0194ee85-7bc6-425f-902b->,
Frank <> wrote:

> Have had new iMac with Snow Leopard since mid Oct. Sending mail is
> unsatisafctory because of slow speed... 30 seconds for a one sentence
> email.
>
> Mail 4.1 Mac OS v 10.6.1
>
> On previous iMac with Mail 3.X on Tiger OS was not a problem. Speed
> test indicates upload with new speed is fine as is FTP. Using same
> DSL modem and same ISP.
>
> Have miniMac with Tiger and Mail 3.x and not a problem. It shares same
> modem and same ISP. Have carefully checked (with supervision of Apple
> Tech support and ISP Tech support) and every setting in both mail
> applications is identical. Also webmail works fine.
>
> Is there a bug in Mail 4.1? If not, what cause this and what is the
> solution?

Seems so. Or else there's something in the network connection of Mail
(you've setup and used the command-line version of mail, right?). If
that's the case, it's time to reinstall with Leopard if it even runs on
your system. Or live with this until it's fixed.

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On Nov 4, 6:51*am, Frank <gn...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Have had new iMac with Snow Leopard since mid Oct. *Sending mail is
> unsatisafctory because of slow speed... 30 seconds for a one sentence
> email.
>
It's nice to finally hear someone, other than myself, voice their
opinion regarding Apple's Snow Leopord (10.6.1) OS.
My iMac was running perfectly when I was still using Leopard 10.5.8.
After upgrading to Leopard Snow, I encountered an overwhelming number
of computer catastrophes, icluding the same problem you're
experiencing with "Mail". It runs so slow now that I've had to stop
using it in order to keep my sanity.

I now have to use ROSETTA in order to run Photoshop, Illustrator, and
InDesign. My iMac is only 2 years old (2 gigs of RAM). It has an
Intel core dual processor. There is absolutely no reason I should now
be required to run my Adobe apps in Rosetta mode. As we all know,
ROSETTA is a "patch" that Intel Mac users had to use several years ago
when running programs that hadn't updated their software for Mac's new
Intel processor architecture. So why in the @&*% is Snow Leopard
requiring me to implement ancient Rosetta for these BRAND NEW versions
of my design software? I of course never had this problem with
10.5.8. But as soon as I Installed Leopard, my Mac turned into a
cripple. MS Office 2008 now runs SO, SO slow that it's beyond
ridiculous. Also, Safari now crashes about 5 times a day and when I
turn on my Mac, I have to wait twice as long for it to start up. I've
addressed all of these problems with Apple and they of course point
their finger at Adobe and Microsoft. Regarding the other isssues,
they just look at me like I'm completely making all of these scenarios
up.
Needless to say, I wish I woul have never upgraded to Leopard Snow.


> Mail 4.1 Mac OS v 10.6.1
>
> On previous iMac with Mail 3.X on Tiger OS was not a problem. *Speed
> test indicates upload with new speed is fine as is FTP. * Using same
> DSL modem and same ISP.
>
> Have miniMac with Tiger and Mail 3.x and not a problem. It shares same
> modem and same ISP. *Have carefully checked (with supervision of Apple
> Tech support and ISP Tech support) and every setting in both mail
> applications is identical. *Also webmail works fine.
>
> Is there a bug in Mail 4.1? * *If not, what cause this and what is the
> solution?

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<0b1cc13b-2417-4ee6-9d47->,
"" <> wrote:

> My iMac was running perfectly when I was still using Leopard 10.5.8.
> After upgrading to Leopard Snow, I encountered an overwhelming number of
> computer catastrophes, icluding the same problem you're experiencing
> with "Mail". It runs so slow now that I've had to stop using it in
> order to keep my sanity.

I installed Snow Leopard, upgrading from Leopard, the day it was released,
and I haven't encountered any of those problems.

> I now have to use ROSETTA in order to run Photoshop, Illustrator, and
> InDesign. My iMac is only 2 years old (2 gigs of RAM).

If you have to run them under Rosetta now, you had to run them under
Rosetta with Leopard. With Leopard (and Tiger), Rosetta was installed
automatically; with Snow Leopard, it is an optional install.

> It has an Intel core dual processor. There is absolutely no reason I
> should now be required to run my Adobe apps in Rosetta mode.

Yes there is; they are Power PC applications, and your computer is an Intel
computer; you need Rosetta to run them.

> So why in the @&*% is Snow Leopard requiring me to implement ancient
> Rosetta for these BRAND NEW versions of my design software?

Because those applications are Power PC applications.

> I of course never had this problem with 10.5.8.

What problem? You were using Rosetta under 10.5.8.

> I've addressed all of these problems with Apple and they of course point
> their finger at Adobe and Microsoft.

Of course they did, because that's where the blame lies.

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In article <michelle->,
Michelle Steiner <> wrote:

> > It has an Intel core dual processor. There is absolutely no reason I
> > should now be required to run my Adobe apps in Rosetta mode.
>
> Yes there is; they are Power PC applications, and your computer is an Intel
> computer; you need Rosetta to run them.

rosetta is only needed *if* they are powerpc apps.

adobe creative suite cs3 and later is intel native and does not require
rosetta unless the user explicitly configures it to run under rosetta
(for compatibility with old plugins).

> > So why in the @&*% is Snow Leopard requiring me to implement ancient
> > Rosetta for these BRAND NEW versions of my design software?
>
> Because those applications are Power PC applications.

see above. a 'brand new' version of photoshop (cs4) does *not* require
rosetta.

> > I've addressed all of these problems with Apple and they of course point
> > their finger at Adobe and Microsoft.
>
> Of course they did, because that's where the blame lies.

the current version of microsoft office is also intel native, no
rosetta needed.

"" <> writes:
> On Nov 4, 6:51*am, Frank <gn...@windstream.net> wrote:
> > Have had new iMac with Snow Leopard since mid Oct. *Sending mail is
> > unsatisafctory because of slow speed... 30 seconds for a one sentence
> > email.
> After upgrading to Leopard Snow, I encountered an overwhelming number
> of computer catastrophes, icluding the same problem you're
> experiencing with "Mail". It runs so slow now that I've had to stop
> using it in order to keep my sanity.

Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, Mail.app sucks least of
the various mail programs I've used over the years on the
Mac. About once a week, it hangs so badly that I have to
force quit. But even so, it still generally works great.
I've used every version of Mail.app since OS X came out,
and sure, the earliest ones were terrible -- I used other
programs for mail until, I don't know, perhaps 10.3. But
other current programs all seem even less stable or more
resource starving. (ie. Thunderbird is getting to be
very very nice - but every once in a while, it just starts
pounding the CPU for no reason which is obvious to me).

> I now have to use ROSETTA in order to run Photoshop, Illustrator, and
> InDesign. My iMac is only 2 years old (2 gigs of RAM). It has an
> Intel core dual processor. There is absolutely no reason I should now
> be required to run my Adobe apps in Rosetta mode. As we all know,

What makes you think that the fault in this lies with Apple?

Apple makes Rosetta available so that folks like you who use
software from companies which don't keep up can still use
their latest machines.

The one you want to bitch at is Adobe. But save your breath.
Adobe just doesn't care what you or I think.

> Intel processor architecture. So why in the @&*% is Snow Leopard
> requiring me to implement ancient Rosetta for these BRAND NEW versions
> of my design software? I of course never had this problem with
> 10.5.8.

Do you actually know what Rosetta does? Really? If you were
Rosetta was there in 10.5. It was there back at the beginning
of 2006 when the first Intel based Macs came out. Back then
there was very little Mac software which had been compiled
for Intel processors and it was essential. Nowadays, vastly
more software comes in Intel versions or Universal versions,
so it's possible - only now - to run a Mac without Rosetta.
But that happens if and only if all the software you use -
particularly third-party software - is built to the Intel cpu.
That's up to the software vendors, not Apple.

But make no mistake - if you have an Intel mac, you've been
using Rosetta since the day you got it, Snow Leopard or not.


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NEW DISCOVERY WITH MT PROB!
Thought I picked up a new observation that was not random the other
day and just tested it.
My normal upload time with everything other than email is over 300
kbps. With my email sending is 5 kbps. This is not a typo and this
is a dsl connection. 5 kbps on sending email.

My discovery:
One word email .. 5 kbps... compose identical email and send to same
address... 311 kbps!

I repeated late with same results 1st with dial up speed... 2nd
same size & addy dsl speed.

What is going on?

On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:31:27 UTC, Frank <> wrote:

> NEW DISCOVERY WITH MT PROB!
> Thought I picked up a new observation that was not random the other
> day and just tested it.
> My normal upload time with everything other than email is over 300
> kbps. With my email sending is 5 kbps. This is not a typo and this
> is a dsl connection. 5 kbps on sending email.
>
> My discovery:
> One word email .. 5 kbps... compose identical email and send to same
> address... 311 kbps!
>
> I repeated late with same results 1st with dial up speed... 2nd
> same size & addy dsl speed.
>
> What is going on?

Problem at the server end?

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On Nov 10, 10:37*am, Juan I. Cahis <jiclbchSINBAS...@attglobal.net>
wrote:
> Dear Frank, do you have a Mail Plug in called "Mail Growler" or "Mail
> Growl" installed?
no


> Also, I would recommend you to upgrade to Snow Leopard 10.6.2 using
> the "Combo Upgrade".

Since my initial post system as upgraded to 10.6.2