New Dell w/Ubuntu

On Jun 16, 8:25*am, "Tom Lake" <tl...@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> > Is he also a part time veterinarian, too? *Veterinarians have reputations
> > as good fixers, too! *... Ben Myers
>
> Why do they call it getting your animal "fixed" when it doesn't work right
> after?

It's more like..."I'll fix your wagon!" (It still may wag...but only
one purpose remains)

Tom Lake wrote:
>> Is he also a part time veterinarian, too? Veterinarians have
>> reputations as good fixers, too! ... Ben Myers
>
> Why do they call it getting your animal "fixed" when it doesn't work
> right after?
>
>
>

Whether or not the animal works right afterward depends on expectations.
The animal did not know what to expect, so it does not work right.
The owner and the vet know exactly what to expect, and they are not
disappointed... Ben Myers

On Jun 14, 11:23*am, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
> Bob Villa wrote:
> > If I need to change the OS to XP (on a new Dell 15n notebook) will
> > there be problems with hardware drivers?
> > TIA
>
> > b_v
>
> Probably not. *If the Dell web site does not have them, you have to
> identify all the chipsets (motherboard, graphics, audio, wifi, Ethernet
> and modem) and download the drivers from the chipset mfrs' web sites.
>
> ... Ben Myers

I am a bit cloudy on this...if I install XP and it presumably has no
drivers...will it ask for say "chip-set" driver and you put in another
CD?
Dell does list the XP drivers (Inspiron 1545) but there are multiple
files for many items.
Thanks
Bob

You will have to download each driver - depending on your laptop
configuration and install them individually starting with the chipset
driver. Depending on the version of XP you have, you may need to install
the SATA driver in the initial part of the XP installation or XP will not
see the hard drive. There is a step-by-step procedure on Dell's website.

"Bob Villa" <> wrote in message
news:d9554f01-1a3b-4d58-bc7a-...
> On Jun 14, 11:23 am, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
>> Bob Villa wrote:
>> > If I need to change the OS to XP (on a new Dell 15n notebook) will
>> > there be problems with hardware drivers?
>> > TIA
>>
>> > b_v
>>
>> Probably not. If the Dell web site does not have them, you have to
>> identify all the chipsets (motherboard, graphics, audio, wifi, Ethernet
>> and modem) and download the drivers from the chipset mfrs' web sites.
>>
>> ... Ben Myers
>
> I am a bit cloudy on this...if I install XP and it presumably has no
> drivers...will it ask for say "chip-set" driver and you put in another
> CD?
> Dell does list the XP drivers (Inspiron 1545) but there are multiple
> files for many items.
> Thanks
> Bob

Bob Villa wrote:
> On Jun 14, 11:23 am, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
>> Bob Villa wrote:
>>> If I need to change the OS to XP (on a new Dell 15n notebook) will
>>> there be problems with hardware drivers?
>>> TIA
>>> b_v
>> Probably not. If the Dell web site does not have them, you have to
>> identify all the chipsets (motherboard, graphics, audio, wifi, Ethernet
>> and modem) and download the drivers from the chipset mfrs' web sites.
>>
>> ... Ben Myers
>
> I am a bit cloudy on this...if I install XP and it presumably has no
> drivers...will it ask for say "chip-set" driver and you put in another
> CD?
> Dell does list the XP drivers (Inspiron 1545) but there are multiple
> files for many items.
> Thanks
> Bob

XP installs basic default drivers for any chipsets for which drivers are
not on the install CD/DVD (the latter for Media Edition.) It's all a
question of timing. XP was released in 2001, XP Media in 2005. Any
chipset initially shipped after the XP CD/DVD was produced will probably
(99+% chance) not have drivers. The system runs with the default
drivers, but in a greatly degraded mode with vanilla default video, hard
drive and optical drive drivers. XP does not nag you for drivers for
all the little yellow exclamation points in Device Manager.

You get the chocolate chip flavor of driver from either the Dell web
site or the web site of the chipset manufacturer. Dell has an extensive
(perhaps the most extensive) driver collection on its web site, so you
go to the support section, select the model or enter the service tag,
select your operating system and download the drivers one at a time.

To get best results, you MUST install the motherboard chipset driver
first. After that, you can do video, Ethernet, wifi, audio, touchpad,
etc in most any order until all the exclamation points go away.

Save yourself some time and do not reboot the system after each driver
installation finishes, except for the most important motherboard chipset
driver... Ben Myers

On Jun 24, 9:27*am, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
> Bob Villa wrote:
> > On Jun 14, 11:23 am, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
> >> Bob Villa wrote:
> >>> If I need to change the OS to XP (on a new Dell 15n notebook) will
> >>> there be problems with hardware drivers?
> >>> TIA
> >>> b_v
> >> Probably not. *If the Dell web site does not have them, you have to
> >> identify all the chipsets (motherboard, graphics, audio, wifi, Ethernet
> >> and modem) and download the drivers from the chipset mfrs' web sites.
>
> >> ... Ben Myers
>
> > I am a bit cloudy on this...if I install XP and it presumably has no
> > drivers...will it ask for say "chip-set" driver and you put in another
> > CD?
> > Dell does list the XP drivers (Inspiron 1545) but there are multiple
> > files for many items.
> > Thanks
> > Bob
>
> XP installs basic default drivers for any chipsets for which drivers are
> not on the install CD/DVD (the latter for Media Edition.) *It's all a
> question of timing. *XP was released in 2001, XP Media in 2005. *Any
> chipset initially shipped after the XP CD/DVD was produced will probably
> (99+% chance) not have drivers. *The system runs with the default
> drivers, but in a greatly degraded mode with vanilla default video, hard
> drive and optical drive drivers. *XP does not nag you for drivers for
> all the little yellow exclamation points in Device Manager.
>
> You get the chocolate chip flavor of driver from either the Dell web
> site or the web site of the chipset manufacturer. *Dell has an extensive
> (perhaps the most extensive) driver collection on its web site, so you
> go to the support section, select the model or enter the service tag,
> select your operating system and download the drivers one at a time.
>
> To get best results, you MUST install the motherboard chipset driver
> first. *After that, you can do video, Ethernet, wifi, audio, touchpad,
> etc in most any order until all the exclamation points go away.
>
> Save yourself some time and do not reboot the system after each driver
> installation finishes, except for the most important motherboard chipset
> driver... Ben Myers

Thanks Ben, so XP WILL install and then install chipset and the
rest...got ya!

On Jun 24, 10:44*pm, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
> Bob Villa wrote:
> > On Jun 24, 9:27 am, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
> >> Bob Villa wrote:
> >>> On Jun 14, 11:23 am, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
> >>>> Bob Villa wrote:
> >>>>> If I need to change the OS to XP (on a new Dell 15n notebook) will
> >>>>> there be problems with hardware drivers?
> >>>>> TIA
> >>>>> b_v
> >>>> Probably not. *If the Dell web site does not have them, you have to
> >>>> identify all the chipsets (motherboard, graphics, audio, wifi, Ethernet
> >>>> and modem) and download the drivers from the chipset mfrs' web sites..
> >>>> ... Ben Myers
> >>> I am a bit cloudy on this...if I install XP and it presumably has no
> >>> drivers...will it ask for say "chip-set" driver and you put in another
> >>> CD?
> >>> Dell does list the XP drivers (Inspiron 1545) but there are multiple
> >>> files for many items.
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Bob
> >> XP installs basic default drivers for any chipsets for which drivers are
> >> not on the install CD/DVD (the latter for Media Edition.) *It's all a
> >> question of timing. *XP was released in 2001, XP Media in 2005. *Any
> >> chipset initially shipped after the XP CD/DVD was produced will probably
> >> (99+% chance) not have drivers. *The system runs with the default
> >> drivers, but in a greatly degraded mode with vanilla default video, hard
> >> drive and optical drive drivers. *XP does not nag you for drivers for
> >> all the little yellow exclamation points in Device Manager.
>
> >> You get the chocolate chip flavor of driver from either the Dell web
> >> site or the web site of the chipset manufacturer. *Dell has an extensive
> >> (perhaps the most extensive) driver collection on its web site, so you
> >> go to the support section, select the model or enter the service tag,
> >> select your operating system and download the drivers one at a time.
>
> >> To get best results, you MUST install the motherboard chipset driver
> >> first. *After that, you can do video, Ethernet, wifi, audio, touchpad,
> >> etc in most any order until all the exclamation points go away.
>
> >> Save yourself some time and do not reboot the system after each driver
> >> installation finishes, except for the most important motherboard chipset
> >> driver... Ben Myers
>
> > Thanks Ben, so XP WILL install and then install chipset and the
> > rest...got ya!
>
> Yes, unlike earlier Win 95/98/ME, you can install Windows 2000/XP/Vista
> and get the system sort of running without the right device drivers, and
> have both optical drive and flash drive available to use install the
> drivers.
>
> back in the dark Win 9x days of the last century, sometimes the system
> would end up not recognizing a CD-ROM drive under Windows. *This left
> you in a quandry as to what to do to install some drivers. *Microsoft
> has made some progress with Windows in the last 20+ years (I went to the
> Windows 1.03 seminar in 1985) with a lot of trial and error and millions
> of human guinea pigs to try out the software... Ben Myers

Should I be concerned about SATA? I know the HDD uses it...not sure
about the DVD/RW.
As WSZsr has stated...that could be a stumbling block. Both Dell XP
versions I have are SP1 and I have a disk for SP2.
bv

Bob Villa wrote:
> On Jun 24, 10:44 pm, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
>> Bob Villa wrote:
>>> On Jun 24, 9:27 am, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>> Bob Villa wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 14, 11:23 am, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Bob Villa wrote:
>>>>>>> If I need to change the OS to XP (on a new Dell 15n notebook) will
>>>>>>> there be problems with hardware drivers?
>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>> b_v
>>>>>> Probably not. If the Dell web site does not have them, you have to
>>>>>> identify all the chipsets (motherboard, graphics, audio, wifi, Ethernet
>>>>>> and modem) and download the drivers from the chipset mfrs' web sites.
>>>>>> ... Ben Myers
>>>>> I am a bit cloudy on this...if I install XP and it presumably has no
>>>>> drivers...will it ask for say "chip-set" driver and you put in another
>>>>> CD?
>>>>> Dell does list the XP drivers (Inspiron 1545) but there are multiple
>>>>> files for many items.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Bob
>>>> XP installs basic default drivers for any chipsets for which drivers are
>>>> not on the install CD/DVD (the latter for Media Edition.) It's all a
>>>> question of timing. XP was released in 2001, XP Media in 2005. Any
>>>> chipset initially shipped after the XP CD/DVD was produced will probably
>>>> (99+% chance) not have drivers. The system runs with the default
>>>> drivers, but in a greatly degraded mode with vanilla default video, hard
>>>> drive and optical drive drivers. XP does not nag you for drivers for
>>>> all the little yellow exclamation points in Device Manager.
>>>> You get the chocolate chip flavor of driver from either the Dell web
>>>> site or the web site of the chipset manufacturer. Dell has an extensive
>>>> (perhaps the most extensive) driver collection on its web site, so you
>>>> go to the support section, select the model or enter the service tag,
>>>> select your operating system and download the drivers one at a time.
>>>> To get best results, you MUST install the motherboard chipset driver
>>>> first. After that, you can do video, Ethernet, wifi, audio, touchpad,
>>>> etc in most any order until all the exclamation points go away.
>>>> Save yourself some time and do not reboot the system after each driver
>>>> installation finishes, except for the most important motherboard chipset
>>>> driver... Ben Myers
>>> Thanks Ben, so XP WILL install and then install chipset and the
>>> rest...got ya!
>> Yes, unlike earlier Win 95/98/ME, you can install Windows 2000/XP/Vista
>> and get the system sort of running without the right device drivers, and
>> have both optical drive and flash drive available to use install the
>> drivers.
>>
>> back in the dark Win 9x days of the last century, sometimes the system
>> would end up not recognizing a CD-ROM drive under Windows. This left
>> you in a quandry as to what to do to install some drivers. Microsoft
>> has made some progress with Windows in the last 20+ years (I went to the
>> Windows 1.03 seminar in 1985) with a lot of trial and error and millions
>> of human guinea pigs to try out the software... Ben Myers
>
> Should I be concerned about SATA? I know the HDD uses it...not sure
> about the DVD/RW.
> As WSZsr has stated...that could be a stumbling block. Both Dell XP
> versions I have are SP1 and I have a disk for SP2.
> bv

Yes, be concerned about SATA. Very much! Chances are the DVD/RW is
PATA. If your system has a floppy drive, you can use the decidedly
retro (so last century! I cannot understand though why XP does not
support older 8" floppy diskette drives. ) approach of finding the
necessary SATA drivers somewhere, starting up SP1 and inserting a floppy
with some SATA stuff when the installer asked you to press F6. I have
never suffered through this, so I cannot begin to tell you how exactly
to do it... Ben

On Jun 25, 11:41*am, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
> Bob Villa wrote:
> > On Jun 24, 10:44 pm, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
> >> Bob Villa wrote:
> >>> On Jun 24, 9:27 am, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
> >>>> Bob Villa wrote:
> >>>>> On Jun 14, 11:23 am, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> Bob Villa wrote:
> >>>>>>> If I need to change the OS to XP (on a new Dell 15n notebook) will
> >>>>>>> there be problems with hardware drivers?
> >>>>>>> TIA
> >>>>>>> b_v
> >>>>>> Probably not. *If the Dell web site does not have them, you haveto
> >>>>>> identify all the chipsets (motherboard, graphics, audio, wifi, Ethernet
> >>>>>> and modem) and download the drivers from the chipset mfrs' web sites.
> >>>>>> ... Ben Myers
> >>>>> I am a bit cloudy on this...if I install XP and it presumably has no
> >>>>> drivers...will it ask for say "chip-set" driver and you put in another
> >>>>> CD?
> >>>>> Dell does list the XP drivers (Inspiron 1545) but there are multiple
> >>>>> files for many items.
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>> Bob
> >>>> XP installs basic default drivers for any chipsets for which driversare
> >>>> not on the install CD/DVD (the latter for Media Edition.) *It's all a
> >>>> question of timing. *XP was released in 2001, XP Media in 2005. *Any
> >>>> chipset initially shipped after the XP CD/DVD was produced will probably
> >>>> (99+% chance) not have drivers. *The system runs with the default
> >>>> drivers, but in a greatly degraded mode with vanilla default video, hard
> >>>> drive and optical drive drivers. *XP does not nag you for drivers for
> >>>> all the little yellow exclamation points in Device Manager.
> >>>> You get the chocolate chip flavor of driver from either the Dell web
> >>>> site or the web site of the chipset manufacturer. *Dell has an extensive
> >>>> (perhaps the most extensive) driver collection on its web site, so you
> >>>> go to the support section, select the model or enter the service tag,
> >>>> select your operating system and download the drivers one at a time.
> >>>> To get best results, you MUST install the motherboard chipset driver
> >>>> first. *After that, you can do video, Ethernet, wifi, audio, touchpad,
> >>>> etc in most any order until all the exclamation points go away.
> >>>> Save yourself some time and do not reboot the system after each driver
> >>>> installation finishes, except for the most important motherboard chipset
> >>>> driver... Ben Myers
> >>> Thanks Ben, so XP WILL install and then install chipset and the
> >>> rest...got ya!
> >> Yes, unlike earlier Win 95/98/ME, you can install Windows 2000/XP/Vista
> >> and get the system sort of running without the right device drivers, and
> >> have both optical drive and flash drive available to use install the
> >> drivers.
>
> >> back in the dark Win 9x days of the last century, sometimes the system
> >> would end up not recognizing a CD-ROM drive under Windows. *This left
> >> you in a quandry as to what to do to install some drivers. *Microsoft
> >> has made some progress with Windows in the last 20+ years (I went to the
> >> Windows 1.03 seminar in 1985) with a lot of trial and error and millions
> >> of human guinea pigs to try out the software... Ben Myers
>
> > Should I be concerned about SATA? *I know the HDD uses it...not sure
> > about the DVD/RW.
> > As WSZsr has stated...that could be a stumbling block. *Both Dell XP
> > versions I have are SP1 and I have a disk for SP2.
> > bv
>
> Yes, be concerned about SATA. *Very much! *Chances are the DVD/RW is
> PATA. *If your system has a floppy drive, you can use the decidedly
> retro (so last century! I cannot understand though why XP does not
> support older 8" floppy diskette drives. ) approach of finding the
> necessary SATA drivers somewhere, starting up SP1 and inserting a floppy
> with some SATA stuff when the installer asked you to press F6. *I have
> never suffered through this, so I cannot begin to tell you how exactly
> to do it... Ben- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The Dell site lists the DVD/RW as SATA and has no floppy
(3.5,5.25,or8")...so I guess flashdrive will work...I hope!

Bob Villa wrote:
> On Jun 25, 11:41 am, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
>> Bob Villa wrote:
>>> On Jun 24, 10:44 pm, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>> Bob Villa wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 24, 9:27 am, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Bob Villa wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jun 14, 11:23 am, Ben Myers <ben_my...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Bob Villa wrote:
>>>>>>>>> If I need to change the OS to XP (on a new Dell 15n notebook) will
>>>>>>>>> there be problems with hardware drivers?
>>>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>>>> b_v
>>>>>>>> Probably not. If the Dell web site does not have them, you have to
>>>>>>>> identify all the chipsets (motherboard, graphics, audio, wifi, Ethernet
>>>>>>>> and modem) and download the drivers from the chipset mfrs' web sites.
>>>>>>>> ... Ben Myers
>>>>>>> I am a bit cloudy on this...if I install XP and it presumably has no
>>>>>>> drivers...will it ask for say "chip-set" driver and you put in another
>>>>>>> CD?
>>>>>>> Dell does list the XP drivers (Inspiron 1545) but there are multiple
>>>>>>> files for many items.
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>> XP installs basic default drivers for any chipsets for which drivers are
>>>>>> not on the install CD/DVD (the latter for Media Edition.) It's all a
>>>>>> question of timing. XP was released in 2001, XP Media in 2005. Any
>>>>>> chipset initially shipped after the XP CD/DVD was produced will probably
>>>>>> (99+% chance) not have drivers. The system runs with the default
>>>>>> drivers, but in a greatly degraded mode with vanilla default video, hard
>>>>>> drive and optical drive drivers. XP does not nag you for drivers for
>>>>>> all the little yellow exclamation points in Device Manager.
>>>>>> You get the chocolate chip flavor of driver from either the Dell web
>>>>>> site or the web site of the chipset manufacturer. Dell has an extensive
>>>>>> (perhaps the most extensive) driver collection on its web site, so you
>>>>>> go to the support section, select the model or enter the service tag,
>>>>>> select your operating system and download the drivers one at a time.
>>>>>> To get best results, you MUST install the motherboard chipset driver
>>>>>> first. After that, you can do video, Ethernet, wifi, audio, touchpad,
>>>>>> etc in most any order until all the exclamation points go away.
>>>>>> Save yourself some time and do not reboot the system after each driver
>>>>>> installation finishes, except for the most important motherboard chipset
>>>>>> driver... Ben Myers
>>>>> Thanks Ben, so XP WILL install and then install chipset and the
>>>>> rest...got ya!
>>>> Yes, unlike earlier Win 95/98/ME, you can install Windows 2000/XP/Vista
>>>> and get the system sort of running without the right device drivers, and
>>>> have both optical drive and flash drive available to use install the
>>>> drivers.
>>>> back in the dark Win 9x days of the last century, sometimes the system
>>>> would end up not recognizing a CD-ROM drive under Windows. This left
>>>> you in a quandry as to what to do to install some drivers. Microsoft
>>>> has made some progress with Windows in the last 20+ years (I went to the
>>>> Windows 1.03 seminar in 1985) with a lot of trial and error and millions
>>>> of human guinea pigs to try out the software... Ben Myers
>>> Should I be concerned about SATA? I know the HDD uses it...not sure
>>> about the DVD/RW.
>>> As WSZsr has stated...that could be a stumbling block. Both Dell XP
>>> versions I have are SP1 and I have a disk for SP2.
>>> bv
>> Yes, be concerned about SATA. Very much! Chances are the DVD/RW is
>> PATA. If your system has a floppy drive, you can use the decidedly
>> retro (so last century! I cannot understand though why XP does not
>> support older 8" floppy diskette drives. ) approach of finding the
>> necessary SATA drivers somewhere, starting up SP1 and inserting a floppy
>> with some SATA stuff when the installer asked you to press F6. I have
>> never suffered through this, so I cannot begin to tell you how exactly
>> to do it... Ben- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> The Dell site lists the DVD/RW as SATA and has no floppy
> (3.5,5.25,or8")...so I guess flashdrive will work...I hope!

Flash drive will NOT work. Thank Bill Gates & Co for their unbelievable
stupidity. A floppy is the ONLY way to load drivers after pressing
F6!!! State of the art feature... Ben