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John Candy
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      07-06-2007, 03:38 PM




Not sure what this is, as it shows on the boot up bios. The drive is a
500 gig drive with a 120 gig NTFS partition and the rest unused.

It was a boot drive from my other system, but as that's not working
at the moment thought I would put it in the backup system and use it,
seems it will into show up.

Going to make a new drive for the backup system with an identical
drive, but partition it with 4 FAT32 partitions, see how that go's and
if it detect it in XP.

Thanks.\
 
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      07-06-2007, 04:31 PM
John Candy wrote:
|
| Not sure what this is, as it shows on the boot up bios. The drive is
| a 500 gig drive with a 120 gig NTFS partition and the rest unused.
|
| It was a boot drive from my other system, but as that's not working
| at the moment thought I would put it in the backup system and use it,
| seems it will into show up.
|
| Going to make a new drive for the backup system with an identical
| drive, but partition it with 4 FAT32 partitions, see how that go's and
| if it detect it in XP.
|
| Thanks.\


Hi John -

If you're running at least Windows XP SP1 you've got support for drives
larger than 137GB (decimal). 48-bit LBA was implemented with Windows XP
SP1.

That said, often when you attach a drive to a system you've got to go into
Disk Management and partition, format and assign a drive letter (in the case
of a raw drive) or assign a drive letter (in the case of a drive with
existing data).

Right-click on My Computer and select Manage from the menu. Under Storage,
click on Disk Management. You should be able to scroll down the pane on the
right to see your new drive. From there, right-click on partitions already
on the drive and choose the option to assign a drive letter. Follow the
wizard. For unused space, right-click and choose the option to partition.

If all you want to do is start from scratch with new partitions, right-click
on the existing partition and select the option to delete it. Right-click
on the unused space and partition, format and assign drive letters as
desired.

Jef


 
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Vanguard
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      07-06-2007, 05:51 PM
"John Candy" wrote in message
news:...
>
>
> Not sure what this is, as it shows on the boot up bios. The drive is a
> 500 gig drive with a 120 gig NTFS partition and the rest unused.
>
> It was a boot drive from my other system, but as that's not working
> at the moment thought I would put it in the backup system and use it,
> seems it will into show up.
>
> Going to make a new drive for the backup system with an identical
> drive, but partition it with 4 FAT32 partitions, see how that go's and
> if it detect it in XP.
>
> Thanks.\



Was there a question somewhere in your post? It was well hidden. Since
you never did ask a question then no one knows how to answer. There are
lots of ways to infer what you meant to ask but didn't.

Why would you think a 500GB hard drive that has a 120GB partition
defined would show up as a 500GB partition in Windows? The partition is
120GB and that is the size that any OS will show for that partition.
You never mentioned what the other 380GB was used for, if at all. If
the other 380GB is not allocated to a partition then no OS will show it
as available. You have to create a partition that uses the other 380GB
to have it show up in the OS. "the rest unused" indicates that the
other 380GB was never allocated to a partition so obviously all you will
ever see in the OS is the 120GB partition that you did create.

 
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John Candy
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      07-07-2007, 10:27 AM





Just not sure why the formated NTFS partition is not showing up,
though I hzve never tried to use a drive with raw unalocated data
before.

That drive was a emergency use disk, to install XP I just let XP do
its thing on the install and it left all what it did not need.

Thanks.


On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 11:51:52 -0500, "Vanguard" <> wrote:

>"John Candy" wrote in message
>news:.. .
>>
>>
>> Not sure what this is, as it shows on the boot up bios. The drive is a
>> 500 gig drive with a 120 gig NTFS partition and the rest unused.
>>
>> It was a boot drive from my other system, but as that's not working
>> at the moment thought I would put it in the backup system and use it,
>> seems it will into show up.
>>
>> Going to make a new drive for the backup system with an identical
>> drive, but partition it with 4 FAT32 partitions, see how that go's and
>> if it detect it in XP.
>>
>> Thanks.\

>
>
>Was there a question somewhere in your post? It was well hidden. Since
>you never did ask a question then no one knows how to answer. There are
>lots of ways to infer what you meant to ask but didn't.
>
>Why would you think a 500GB hard drive that has a 120GB partition
>defined would show up as a 500GB partition in Windows? The partition is
>120GB and that is the size that any OS will show for that partition.
>You never mentioned what the other 380GB was used for, if at all. If
>the other 380GB is not allocated to a partition then no OS will show it
>as available. You have to create a partition that uses the other 380GB
>to have it show up in the OS. "the rest unused" indicates that the
>other 380GB was never allocated to a partition so obviously all you will
>ever see in the OS is the 120GB partition that you did create.

 
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John Candy
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      07-07-2007, 12:42 PM


I did a full format and partition of an idential SATA Samsung 500 gig
SATA 2 drive and did it with Partition magic in Dos mod via boot
floppys.

In the bios boot up it shows the drive, but it does not show the drive
and or the partitions. I'am running the latest chipset drivers for the
mobo, even though they are pretty old now, also SP2 for XP

Maybe there is a bios thing I have to turn on or something.

It should just detect the drive if its been formated to fat32 defaults
right, or is it a sata2 thing ?



Thanks.




On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 19:27:42 +1000, John Candy <> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
>Just not sure why the formated NTFS partition is not showing up,
>though I hzve never tried to use a drive with raw unalocated data
>before.
>
>That drive was a emergency use disk, to install XP I just let XP do
>its thing on the install and it left all what it did not need.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 11:51:52 -0500, "Vanguard" <> wrote:
>
>>"John Candy" wrote in message
>>news:. ..
>>>
>>>
>>> Not sure what this is, as it shows on the boot up bios. The drive is a
>>> 500 gig drive with a 120 gig NTFS partition and the rest unused.
>>>
>>> It was a boot drive from my other system, but as that's not working
>>> at the moment thought I would put it in the backup system and use it,
>>> seems it will into show up.
>>>
>>> Going to make a new drive for the backup system with an identical
>>> drive, but partition it with 4 FAT32 partitions, see how that go's and
>>> if it detect it in XP.
>>>
>>> Thanks.\

>>
>>
>>Was there a question somewhere in your post? It was well hidden. Since
>>you never did ask a question then no one knows how to answer. There are
>>lots of ways to infer what you meant to ask but didn't.
>>
>>Why would you think a 500GB hard drive that has a 120GB partition
>>defined would show up as a 500GB partition in Windows? The partition is
>>120GB and that is the size that any OS will show for that partition.
>>You never mentioned what the other 380GB was used for, if at all. If
>>the other 380GB is not allocated to a partition then no OS will show it
>>as available. You have to create a partition that uses the other 380GB
>>to have it show up in the OS. "the rest unused" indicates that the
>>other 380GB was never allocated to a partition so obviously all you will
>>ever see in the OS is the 120GB partition that you did create.

 
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Vanguard
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      07-07-2007, 06:07 PM
"John Candy" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
>
> I did a full format and partition of an idential SATA Samsung 500 gig
> SATA 2 drive and did it with Partition magic in Dos mod via boot
> floppys.
>
> In the bios boot up it shows the drive, but it does not show the drive
> and or the partitions. I'am running the latest chipset drivers for the
> mobo, even though they are pretty old now, also SP2 for XP
>
> Maybe there is a bios thing I have to turn on or something.
>
> It should just detect the drive if its been formated to fat32 defaults
> right, or is it a sata2 thing ?



The summary shown after the POST will only list the hard disk devices.
If there were 6 hard disks then it lists 6 hard disks, not the 6 to
hundred partitions on them all. At that point, the BIOS doesn't care
about how the hard disks have been partitioned, if at all, since it
hasn't gotten to booting an OS yet.

I'm wondering if you don't have the SATA BIOS enabled by the system
BIOS. If the SATA BIOS is not enabled, you can't use any SATA disk
attached to the SATA port on the motherboard. Boot and go into the
system BIOS and go to:

Integrated Peripherals -> Onboard PCI Device

Make sure the SATA Controller is enabled.

When you installed Windows, did you hit F6 at the first screen that says
to hit that key if you need to install SCSI devices? Windows sees SATA
as a SCSI type of device and you need to install the drivers to support
SATA. Presumably you already installed the nForce drivers for the
motherboard. Did you install the the SATA driver? The problem is that
if Windows needs the SATA driver then it can't use a SATA disk as the
boot drive because, well, it doesn't know about the device yet to use
it. Since you said that you just formatted the SATA drive using
PartitionMagic then you will be doing a fresh install of Windows XP on
it. When you boot the Windows XP install CD, make sure to hit the F6
key when prompted (it shows as a text line at the bottom of the screen).
Be sure to have the driver floppy ready.

 
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Richard Hopkins
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      07-09-2007, 02:51 PM
"John Candy" wrote in message...
> In the bios boot up it shows the drive, but it does not show the drive
> and or the partitions.


Grief, I see why Vanguard finds you hard to understand. First you say that
the BIOS shows the drive, but then you say that it does not show the drive.
You wouldn't expect the BIOS to show you all the partition information, but
it *should* list the drive. Does it or doesn't it?

> Maybe there is a bios thing I have to turn on or something.


As you have already been told, the first thing to check is inside Disk
Management in the system management console. If it shows the drive, you may
merely need to add a drive letter for the existing partition, then create
extra partion(s) for the unused space.

However, if you can't see it in Disk Management, and it's an SATA2 drive,
you may need to manually configure the drive to use the SATA1 interface.
This might be done via a driver, or via a software configuration utility,
consult your drive manufacturer's website for further details.
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      07-09-2007, 03:33 PM
On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 14:51:02 +0100, "Richard Hopkins"
<> wrote:

>However, if you can't see it in Disk Management, and it's an SATA2 drive,
>you may need to manually configure the drive to use the SATA1 interface.
>This might be done via a driver, or via a software configuration utility,
>consult your drive manufacturer's website for further details.


The Sata 2 drives I have used, Maxtor and Samsung all had jumpers to
turn them into Sata drives. They worked great on my NF7-S v2.0.

Al

 
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John Candy
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      07-09-2007, 07:48 PM




Yeah I think the mobo Just can't handel SATA 2 drives. No biggy as its
intened to go into my NEW system anyways. I guess I will have to get
some SATA 1 or ata drives for my backup system.


In disk managment No other disks or partitions showup other thanthe
boot drive an partitions.


Thanks all.


On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 14:51:02 +0100, "Richard Hopkins"
<> wrote:

>"John Candy" wrote in message...
>> In the bios boot up it shows the drive, but it does not show the drive
>> and or the partitions.

>
>Grief, I see why Vanguard finds you hard to understand. First you say that
>the BIOS shows the drive, but then you say that it does not show the drive.
>You wouldn't expect the BIOS to show you all the partition information, but
>it *should* list the drive. Does it or doesn't it?
>
>> Maybe there is a bios thing I have to turn on or something.

>
>As you have already been told, the first thing to check is inside Disk
>Management in the system management console. If it shows the drive, you may
>merely need to add a drive letter for the existing partition, then create
>extra partion(s) for the unused space.
>
>However, if you can't see it in Disk Management, and it's an SATA2 drive,
>you may need to manually configure the drive to use the SATA1 interface.
>This might be done via a driver, or via a software configuration utility,
>consult your drive manufacturer's website for further details.

 
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John Candy
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      07-10-2007, 04:56 AM



Yeah that's what I shoudl do I think. They would only be used for
storage anyways on the backup system anyways, so SATA 2 is not realy
needed

Thanks.



On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 04:48:53 +1000, John Candy <> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>Yeah I think the mobo Just can't handel SATA 2 drives. No biggy as its
>intened to go into my NEW system anyways. I guess I will have to get
>some SATA 1 or ata drives for my backup system.
>
>
>In disk managment No other disks or partitions showup other thanthe
>boot drive an partitions.
>
>
>Thanks all.
>
>
>On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 14:51:02 +0100, "Richard Hopkins"
><> wrote:
>
>>"John Candy" wrote in message...
>>> In the bios boot up it shows the drive, but it does not show the drive
>>> and or the partitions.

>>
>>Grief, I see why Vanguard finds you hard to understand. First you say that
>>the BIOS shows the drive, but then you say that it does not show the drive.
>>You wouldn't expect the BIOS to show you all the partition information, but
>>it *should* list the drive. Does it or doesn't it?
>>
>>> Maybe there is a bios thing I have to turn on or something.

>>
>>As you have already been told, the first thing to check is inside Disk
>>Management in the system management console. If it shows the drive, you may
>>merely need to add a drive letter for the existing partition, then create
>>extra partion(s) for the unused space.
>>
>>However, if you can't see it in Disk Management, and it's an SATA2 drive,
>>you may need to manually configure the drive to use the SATA1 interface.
>>This might be done via a driver, or via a software configuration utility,
>>consult your drive manufacturer's website for further details.

 
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