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Rob-alicious
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      08-29-2005, 11:39 PM


Ive just put together my new system:

Elitegroup 755-A2 MB
Ge force 5500 fx 256MB Video card
Western digital 250GB HD

unfortunately after the initial boot I see nothing on the screen. I
have tried 128 and 64 MB video cards, a different monitor, and of
course unplug and replug. The ATX12v is IN so I know its not that.

However I have notice that the board did not come with onboard video,
SO...

1. Is it that the board cannot produce the graphics needed to display
the BIOS without first having installed the drivers?
2. If it is this how do I install the drivers without seeing what Im
doing?
3. Could I possibly hook the hard drive up to a seperate computer and
load the drivers and OS that way and then reinstall and reboot?

I have no idea what is preventing the motherboard from displaying the
initial BIOS setup, any ideas???

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      08-30-2005, 05:39 AM
"Rob-alicious" wrote:
> Ive just put together my new system:
>
> Elitegroup 755-A2 MB
> Ge force 5500 fx 256MB Video card
> Western digital 250GB HD
>
> unfortunately after the initial boot I see nothing on the
> screen. I have tried 128 and 64 MB video cards, a different
> monitor, and of course unplug and replug. The ATX12v is IN so
> I know its not that.
>
> However I have notice that the board did not come with
> onboard video, SO...
>
> 1. Is it that the board cannot produce the graphics needed to
> display the BIOS without first having installed the drivers?
> 2. If it is this how do I install the drivers without seeing
> what Im doing?
> 3. Could I possibly hook the hard drive up to a seperate
> computer and load the drivers and OS that way and then
> reinstall and reboot?
>
> I have no idea what is preventing the motherboard from
> displaying the initial BIOS setup, any ideas???


what psu do you have? you should have at least 12v/18amps to run the
64bit board. try disconnecting the hard drive, rom drive, case fans
and try posting . use just the vid card, 1 stick of ram and the cpu
heatsink and fan. i assume your fans are running when you try to boot.


ud
 
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      08-30-2005, 10:39 PM
"uddarts" wrote:
> what psu do you have? you should have at least 12v/18amps to
> run the 64bit board. try disconnecting the hard drive, rom
> drive, case fans and try posting . use just the vid card, 1
> stick of ram and the cpu heatsink and fan. i assume your fans
> are running when you try to boot.
>
>
> ud


the power supply is a Chiefmax 450w 115 Volt 10 Amp.

I tried using just the vid card, but still havent gotten anything.
All fans (CPU, vid card, HD, and case) operate without problem when
connected.

Another source suggested trying the card in another computer but I
have tried other vid cards that I know for a fact work.

Im fast running out of ideas, Im sure I can get this thing to work if
I could just get a display.
 
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      08-30-2005, 10:39 PM
"Rob-alicious" wrote:
> the power supply is a Chiefmax 450w 115 Volt 10 Amp.
>
> I tried using just the vid card, but still havent gotten
> anything. All fans (CPU, vid card, HD, and case) operate
> without problem when connected.
>
> Another source suggested trying the card in another computer
> but I have tried other vid cards that I know for a fact work.
>
> Im fast running out of ideas, Im sure I can get this thing to
> work if I could just get a display.


i found a link for the psu. unless they’re real big liars, it should
be fine.

try reseating the cpu. be very careful removing the heatsink if you
used the stock thermal pad. you might want to get some good thermal
grease to use from then on. when reseating, use firm pressure on the
cpu when flipping the the lock down lever. also check the pins to make
sure they are all straight.

ud
 
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      08-30-2005, 10:40 PM
"uddarts" wrote:
> i found a link for the psu. unless they're real big liars, it
> should be fine.
>
> try reseating the cpu. be very careful removing the heatsink
> if you used the stock thermal pad. you might want to get some
> good thermal grease to use from then on. when reseating, use
> firm pressure on the cpu when flipping the the lock down
> lever. also check the pins to make sure they are all straight.
>
> ud


Ive now completely disassembled the system. Cpu looks OK, no damage
to the pins... now that Ive taken it apart it just made me more sure
that I had done it right the first time. Ive tested the graphics card
in another machine with no problem, it got itself going without
installing new drivers. So I am now confident that the Video card is
not the problem either...

So... That leaves me to believe that the motherboard is the problem.
The thing of it is that it came right out of the box and into the
machine within 10 minutes and when all the drives are hooked up they
all appear the be functioning normally (i.e fans work,LEDs work,
drives are active).

Therefore I can only guess that Im dealing with a compatability issue
or a faulty AGP 8x slot. Does this sound right? Or is there something
I havent thought of?

Regretably, I cant test the MB or CPU in the other machine... CPU was
out of box too and I dont think Id be getting the activity I am if the
motherboard or CPU were COMPLEATLY faulty...

If anyone has ever experienced something similar please help.
 
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      08-31-2005, 12:39 AM
"Rob-alicious" wrote:
> Ive now completely disassembled the system. Cpu looks OK, no
> damage to the pins... now that Ive taken it apart it just made
> me more sure that I had done it right the first time. Ive
> tested the graphics card in another machine with no problem,
> it got itself going without installing new drivers. So I am
> now confident that the Video card is not the problem either...
>
> So... That leaves me to believe that the motherboard is the
> problem. The thing of it is that it came right out of the box
> and into the machine within 10 minutes and when all the drives
> are hooked up they all appear the be functioning normally (i.e
> fans work,LEDs work, drives are active).
>
> Therefore I can only guess that Im dealing with a
> compatability issue or a faulty AGP 8x slot. Does this sound
> right? Or is there something I havent thought of?
>
> Regretably, I cant test the MB or CPU in the other machine...
> CPU was out of box too and I dont think Id be getting the
> activity I am if the motherboard or CPU were COMPLEATLY
> faulty...
>
> If anyone has ever experienced something similar please help.


just to cover the bases. you do have the p4 psu connector plugged in?
one last thought, do you have a digital multimeter or can you borrow,
beg or buy($15) one? check the 12v line, the yellow wire on a four
wire molex plug connector.

otherwise it’s rma time. you’ve done your best.


ud
 
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B Peter
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      09-04-2005, 07:53 AM
I'm no expert but could there be a 'clear CMOS' thingy that's shorted?

Or if you are a DIY system builder do you still have an old PCI graphics
card knocking about, sometimes AGP needs to be enabled in BIOS first.

BP


"uddarts" <> wrote in message
news:7_309660_2b2b4f0b62dca35794dedc6050b00c6c@har dwareforumz.com...
> "Rob-alicious" wrote:
> > Ive now completely disassembled the system. Cpu looks OK, no
> > damage to the pins... now that Ive taken it apart it just made
> > me more sure that I had done it right the first time. Ive
> > tested the graphics card in another machine with no problem,
> > it got itself going without installing new drivers. So I am
> > now confident that the Video card is not the problem either...
> >
> > So... That leaves me to believe that the motherboard is the
> > problem. The thing of it is that it came right out of the box
> > and into the machine within 10 minutes and when all the drives
> > are hooked up they all appear the be functioning normally (i.e
> > fans work,LEDs work, drives are active).
> >
> > Therefore I can only guess that Im dealing with a
> > compatability issue or a faulty AGP 8x slot. Does this sound
> > right? Or is there something I havent thought of?
> >
> > Regretably, I cant test the MB or CPU in the other machine...
> > CPU was out of box too and I dont think Id be getting the
> > activity I am if the motherboard or CPU were COMPLEATLY
> > faulty...
> >
> > If anyone has ever experienced something similar please help.

>
> just to cover the bases. you do have the p4 psu connector plugged in?
> one last thought, do you have a digital multimeter or can you borrow,
> beg or buy($15) one? check the 12v line, the yellow wire on a four
> wire molex plug connector.
>
> otherwise it's rma time. you've done your best.
>
>
> ud



 
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      09-05-2005, 06:49 PM

"Rob-alicious" <> wrote in message >
> Ive now completely disassembled the system. Cpu looks OK, no damage
> to the pins... now that Ive taken it apart it just made me more sure
> that I had done it right the first time. Ive tested the graphics card
> in another machine with no problem, it got itself going without
> installing new drivers. So I am now confident that the Video card is
> not the problem either...
>
> So... That leaves me to believe that the motherboard is the problem.
> The thing of it is that it came right out of the box and into the
> machine within 10 minutes and when all the drives are hooked up they
> all appear the be functioning normally (i.e fans work,LEDs work,
> drives are active).
>
> Therefore I can only guess that Im dealing with a compatability issue
> or a faulty AGP 8x slot. Does this sound right? Or is there something
> I havent thought of?
>
> Regretably, I cant test the MB or CPU in the other machine... CPU was
> out of box too and I dont think Id be getting the activity I am if the
> motherboard or CPU were COMPLEATLY faulty...
>
> If anyone has ever experienced something similar please help.


One thing to check is the Power Supply Unit. There is a switch on the back to
select the voltage. Make sure it is all the way in the correct position. ie:
115v-230v
Another is to clear your BIOS with the jumpers. Make sure you follow those
directions and put the jumper on the right pins.
One more: if possible, try a different PSU.


 
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      09-07-2005, 06:44 AM
"" wrote
> "Rob-alicious" <> wrote in
> message >
> > Ive now completely disassembled the system. Cpu looks OK,

> no damage
> > to the pins... now that Ive taken it apart it just made me

> more sure
> > that I had done it right the first time. Ive tested the

> graphics card
> > in another machine with no problem, it got itself going

> without
> > installing new drivers. So I am now confident that the Video

> card is
> > not the problem either...
> >
> > So... That leaves me to believe that the motherboard is the

> problem.
> > The thing of it is that it came right out of the box and

> into the
> > machine within 10 minutes and when all the drives are hooked

> up they
> > all appear the be functioning normally (i.e fans work,LEDs

> work,
> > drives are active).
> >
> > Therefore I can only guess that Im dealing with a

> compatability issue
> > or a faulty AGP 8x slot. Does this sound right? Or is there

> something
> > I havent thought of?
> >
> > Regretably, I cant test the MB or CPU in the other

> machine... CPU was
> > out of box too and I dont think Id be getting the activity I

> am if the
> > motherboard or CPU were COMPLEATLY faulty...
> >
> > If anyone has ever experienced something similar please

> help.
>
> One thing to check is the Power Supply Unit. There is a switch
> on the back to
> select the voltage. Make sure it is all the way in the correct
> position. ie:
> 115v-230v
> Another is to clear your BIOS with the jumpers. Make sure you
> follow those
> directions and put the jumper on the right pins.
> One more: if possible, try a different PSU


Finally success. The system is now up and running the only thing that
I have left to setup is the NIC it came onboard with the motherboard
but after install ing the drivers and setting up through the "add new
hardware" All I get is a message that tells me that the hardware has
been installed but wont work due to a Code 10. It wolnt elaborate any
further. Ive tried uninstalling and reinstalling but have gotten no
where so far any ideas?

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      09-07-2005, 05:35 PM
i built a computer with one of these and it turned out to be a bad
motherboard out of the box, take it back and make them swap it, if you bitch
hard enough they will even throw in a free stick of memory.
"Rob-alicious" <> wrote in message
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> "uddarts" wrote:
> > i found a link for the psu. unless they're real big liars, it
> > should be fine.
> >
> > try reseating the cpu. be very careful removing the heatsink
> > if you used the stock thermal pad. you might want to get some
> > good thermal grease to use from then on. when reseating, use
> > firm pressure on the cpu when flipping the the lock down
> > lever. also check the pins to make sure they are all straight.
> >
> > ud

>
> Ive now completely disassembled the system. Cpu looks OK, no damage
> to the pins... now that Ive taken it apart it just made me more sure
> that I had done it right the first time. Ive tested the graphics card
> in another machine with no problem, it got itself going without
> installing new drivers. So I am now confident that the Video card is
> not the problem either...
>
> So... That leaves me to believe that the motherboard is the problem.
> The thing of it is that it came right out of the box and into the
> machine within 10 minutes and when all the drives are hooked up they
> all appear the be functioning normally (i.e fans work,LEDs work,
> drives are active).
>
> Therefore I can only guess that Im dealing with a compatability issue
> or a faulty AGP 8x slot. Does this sound right? Or is there something
> I havent thought of?
>
> Regretably, I cant test the MB or CPU in the other machine... CPU was
> out of box too and I dont think Id be getting the activity I am if the
> motherboard or CPU were COMPLEATLY faulty...
>
> If anyone has ever experienced something similar please help.



 
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