No more IDE support for Sol.10?

Benjamin Gawert wrote:
> * YTC#1:
>
>>> Right, at a time when their own Solaris machines were SPARC only and
>>> the x86 port was only a niche within the Solaris world.
>>
>> Because no one was listening that x86 was important......
>
> Sure, since Sun still believed that SPARC is the best thing since sliced
> bread.

It still is, why do you thin Oracle have bought them ?
:-)

>
>>> Sun might sometimes do something stupid, but they are not *that*
>>> stupid ;-)
>>
>> Maybe I am tainted, but there are/were some stupid decisions made.
>
> I never said Sun didn't make stupid decisions, in fact, they made quite
> a lot. Besides other problems like completely incompetent sales
> departments which made customers that have decided to buy turn away to
> other vendors.
>
> However, they didn't make their OS deliberately incompatible with all of
> their own hardware as the OP suggested. Even Sun wouldn't do that.

Still time :-)


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* YTC#1:

>> Sure, since Sun still believed that SPARC is the best thing since
>> sliced bread.
>
> It still is, why do you thin Oracle have bought them ?
> :-)

Because Oracle is more interested in other assets like MySQL and their
customer base, I don't think Oracle will ever do hardware. Why else
would they discuss about selling the hardware business to HP (if HP
wants it, ofo course)? ;-)

>> However, they didn't make their OS deliberately incompatible with all
>> of their own hardware as the OP suggested. Even Sun wouldn't do that.
>
> Still time :-)

They could produce a "Taliban" version that some time after installation
blows up the whole file system structure. Oh wait, that was Linux with
Ext4 ;-)

Ben

* shmerl:
>> I don't think Oracle will ever do hardware.
>
> They claim that they will: http://tinyurl.com/yzvv9rf

I don't know what is behind the link (I don't click on short URLs, if it
is relevant please post the original URL) but I know that Oracle said
they will. Of course they say that, because if they didn't customers
would abandon the Sun platform and go elsewhere which means the value of
the hardware business would decrease.

However, there also is the (not unfounded) rumor that Oracle wants to
get rid of the hardware part, probably to HP. I would be extremely
surprised if Oracle would engage in the hardware business, something
which has been very complicated for Sun already. All they are probably
interested in is the service business and MySQL.

Benjamin

* shmerl:
> I didn't make it a short URL. Probably your browser transforms long URLs
> in short ones. Check your addons (may be disable them for a test). Link
> it to the oracle official site.

A browser is for viewing html pages only and not for newsreading, and my
newsreader certainly didn't make it a tinyurl:


"They claim that they will: http://tinyurl.com/yzvv9rf" definitely came
from your part, including the URL.

Benjamin

shmerl wrote:
> I don't see my post as a tiny URL, but I see your quoute as such. So
> it's for sure somewhere from your part May be it's your forum setting
> or something. Forum engine can modify links I guess.

Nope, its not at his end.
I, and probably others, saw it as well.

And note I *do not* use forums, I read via newsgroups where no
conversion takes place.

(fire up thunderbird, much easier to navigate than web forums)

>
> Here is a screenshot:
> (I'm posting a FULL link here, following with a link without http
> prefix, so whatever messes up links if it does, won't interfere in
> second case).
>
> http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/593...lconverted.jpg
>
> img17.imageshack.us/img17/5936/tinyurlconverted.jpg
>
>


I note from the screen shot you are using FF, could you perhaps have
this installed ?
http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Interne...-Creator.shtml



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shmerl wrote:
> Nope. I don't have tiny url addons, and I don't like using tiny urls in
> general. Try to load the forum using simple Lynx and without logging in.
> You should see my URL as a normal address.
>
>

Must be the forum you posted through then.


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shmerl <> wrote:
>
> Nope. I don't have tiny url addons, and I don't like using tiny urls in
> general. Try to load the forum using simple Lynx and without logging in.
> You should see my URL as a normal address.

It was posted as a tinyurl. I check groups with tin, and what is posted is
what I see.

shmerl <> wrote:
>
> YTC#1;1133322 Wrote:
>> shmerl wrote:
>> > Nope. I don't have tiny url addons, and I don't like using tiny urls
>> in
>> > general. Try to load the forum using simple Lynx and without logging
>> in.
>> > You should see my URL as a normal address.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Must be the forum you posted through then.
>>
>
> Probably yes (when it propagates the post to e-mail). Try seeing it
> through the forum itself:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/y8w4eqv
>
>

Ha, very funny, another tinyurl.

Try seeing it through a news reader. Or even, if you must, through Google
groups:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/com...ardware/topics

The original comment still stands. The URL that ended up being propogated
through usenet is a tinyurl.

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Energy Consultant

shmerl wrote:
> YTC#1;1133322 Wrote:
>> shmerl wrote:
>>> Nope. I don't have tiny url addons, and I don't like using tiny urls
>> in
>>> general. Try to load the forum using simple Lynx and without logging
>> in.
>>> You should see my URL as a normal address.
>>>
>>>
>> Must be the forum you posted through then.
>>
>
> Probably yes (when it propagates the post to e-mail). Try seeing it
> through the forum itself:

Why would I want to ?

Forums are a bloated way of viewing newsgroups. And it is not
propagating to email. News is not email.

>
>



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