P4C800-E: Migrating a RAID 0 from Promise PATA to Intel Sata ?

Hi!
I have a stripeset of 2 Hitachi Deskstar 180 GXPs on the P4C800-E´s PATA
RAID-port (Promise 378). I also have a nice set of two Abit Serillel
PATA-to-SATA dongles.
Can I move this stripeset from PATA to SATA w/o having to reinstall the
whole f...ing system ?
Did anyone try this ?
Thanx in advance for your input !

Cya -

Joachim

You'll have to recreate everything. You cannot move the stripeset.

"Joachim Klein" <> wrote in message
news:bq0dbu$5d0$06$...
> Hi!
> I have a stripeset of 2 Hitachi Deskstar 180 GXPs on the P4C800-E´s PATA
> RAID-port (Promise 378). I also have a nice set of two Abit Serillel
> PATA-to-SATA dongles.
> Can I move this stripeset from PATA to SATA w/o having to reinstall the
> whole f...ing system ?
> Did anyone try this ?
> Thanx in advance for your input !
>
> Cya -
>
> Joachim
>
>

>Subject: Re: P4C800-E: Migrating a RAID 0 from Promise PATA to Intel Sata ?
>From: "DanO"
>Date: 11/25/2003 11:00 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <HzVwb.31257$ m>
>
>You'll have to recreate everything. You cannot move the stripeset.
>
>"Joachim Klein" <> wrote in message
>news:bq0dbu$5d0$06$...
>> Hi!
>> I have a stripeset of 2 Hitachi Deskstar 180 GXPs on the P4C800-E´s PATA
>> RAID-port (Promise 378). I also have a nice set of two Abit Serillel
>> PATA-to-SATA dongles.
>> Can I move this stripeset from PATA to SATA w/o having to reinstall the
>> whole f...ing system ?
>> Did anyone try this ?
>> Thanx in advance for your input !
>>
>> Cya -
>>
>> Joachim
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Make a Ghost, or equivalant, image and migrate that way.

"Joachim Klein" <> wrote in message
news:bq0dbu$5d0$06$...
> Hi!
> I have a stripeset of 2 Hitachi Deskstar 180 GXPs on the P4C800-E´s PATA
> RAID-port (Promise 378). I also have a nice set of two Abit Serillel
> PATA-to-SATA dongles.
> Can I move this stripeset from PATA to SATA w/o having to reinstall the
> whole f...ing system ?
> Did anyone try this ?
> Thanx in advance for your input !


i dont think the other who have replied to your post have actually tried it
! i can tell you that i succesfully moved 2x120gb from the one pata cable to
th 2 sata ports on the promise controller, also using pata to sata
converters....no problem, didnt even have to go into the promise bios or
anything....i just moved them !

also i moved them from an promise sx4000 controller to the onboard, and the
onboard promise recognised everything...

both times i was moving raid 0 arrays.....both times i had zero trouble !
promise controllers stores all information about the array on the HD so when
you move them the new promise controller will look on the disk for
info....no prob

you cant move the stripe to the southbrige (intel)controller that wont
work....only promise to promise

Lasse
p4c800-e 2.8 @ 3.4 2x512 hyperx 3200
4x120gb raid 0 on onboard promise controller
4x250gb raid 5 on promise sx4000 controller with 256 mb cache
2x36 gb raid 0 raptors on onboard intel controller
yamaha fs1 burner
some ugly 48 speed cdrom drive
audigy2
hauppauge PVR350
antec 550 w truepower in aopen hx08 highly modifyed to acommodate harddisks
without overheating
asetec waterchill cooling CPU, GPU, NB, and soon raid arrys...
only 2x120mm fans which are not silent but very low noise

I concur that you can move a Promise Stripeset from Promise controller to
Promise Controller. I understood the OP to mean move from Promise PATA to
Intel SATA. My bad... Although, it would seem to be a waste to not use the
Intel SATA Raid as it takes the load off of the PCI bus.

"Lasse Lundberg" <> wrote in message
news:bq2a0s$950$...
> "Joachim Klein" <> wrote in message
> news:bq0dbu$5d0$06$...
> > Hi!
> > I have a stripeset of 2 Hitachi Deskstar 180 GXPs on the P4C800-E´s PATA
> > RAID-port (Promise 378). I also have a nice set of two Abit Serillel
> > PATA-to-SATA dongles.
> > Can I move this stripeset from PATA to SATA w/o having to reinstall the
> > whole f...ing system ?
> > Did anyone try this ?
> > Thanx in advance for your input !
>
>
> i dont think the other who have replied to your post have actually tried
it
> ! i can tell you that i succesfully moved 2x120gb from the one pata cable
to
> th 2 sata ports on the promise controller, also using pata to sata
> converters....no problem, didnt even have to go into the promise bios or
> anything....i just moved them !
>
> also i moved them from an promise sx4000 controller to the onboard, and
the
> onboard promise recognised everything...
>
> both times i was moving raid 0 arrays.....both times i had zero trouble !
> promise controllers stores all information about the array on the HD so
when
> you move them the new promise controller will look on the disk for
> info....no prob
>
> you cant move the stripe to the southbrige (intel)controller that wont
> work....only promise to promise
>
> Lasse
> p4c800-e 2.8 @ 3.4 2x512 hyperx 3200
> 4x120gb raid 0 on onboard promise controller
> 4x250gb raid 5 on promise sx4000 controller with 256 mb cache
> 2x36 gb raid 0 raptors on onboard intel controller
> yamaha fs1 burner
> some ugly 48 speed cdrom drive
> audigy2
> hauppauge PVR350
> antec 550 w truepower in aopen hx08 highly modifyed to acommodate
harddisks
> without overheating
> asetec waterchill cooling CPU, GPU, NB, and soon raid arrys...
> only 2x120mm fans which are not silent but very low noise
>
>

Precisely.
To move the array within the same controller indeed shouldn´t be very
critical as the RAID-BIOS is the same. But you gain nothing except the
stylish thin cables in the end as the Promise SATA-ports are attached to the
PCI bus in the same way the PATA-ports are...

I think I´ll backup my RAID 0 array and just try...

Thanx for your precious advice !

Cya -

Joachim
"DanO" <> wrote in message
news:Qj2xb.19617$. com...
> I concur that you can move a Promise Stripeset from Promise controller to
> Promise Controller. I understood the OP to mean move from Promise PATA to
> Intel SATA. My bad... Although, it would seem to be a waste to not use
the
> Intel SATA Raid as it takes the load off of the PCI bus.
>
> "Lasse Lundberg" <> wrote in message
> news:bq2a0s$950$...
> > "Joachim Klein" <> wrote in message
> > news:bq0dbu$5d0$06$...
> > > Hi!
> > > I have a stripeset of 2 Hitachi Deskstar 180 GXPs on the P4C800-E´s
PATA
> > > RAID-port (Promise 378). I also have a nice set of two Abit Serillel
> > > PATA-to-SATA dongles.
> > > Can I move this stripeset from PATA to SATA w/o having to reinstall
the
> > > whole f...ing system ?
> > > Did anyone try this ?
> > > Thanx in advance for your input !
> >
> >
> > i dont think the other who have replied to your post have actually tried
> it
> > ! i can tell you that i succesfully moved 2x120gb from the one pata
cable
> to
> > th 2 sata ports on the promise controller, also using pata to sata
> > converters....no problem, didnt even have to go into the promise bios or
> > anything....i just moved them !
> >
> > also i moved them from an promise sx4000 controller to the onboard, and
> the
> > onboard promise recognised everything...
> >
> > both times i was moving raid 0 arrays.....both times i had zero trouble
!
> > promise controllers stores all information about the array on the HD so
> when
> > you move them the new promise controller will look on the disk for
> > info....no prob
> >
> > you cant move the stripe to the southbrige (intel)controller that wont
> > work....only promise to promise
> >
> > Lasse
> > p4c800-e 2.8 @ 3.4 2x512 hyperx 3200
> > 4x120gb raid 0 on onboard promise controller
> > 4x250gb raid 5 on promise sx4000 controller with 256 mb cache
> > 2x36 gb raid 0 raptors on onboard intel controller
> > yamaha fs1 burner
> > some ugly 48 speed cdrom drive
> > audigy2
> > hauppauge PVR350
> > antec 550 w truepower in aopen hx08 highly modifyed to acommodate
> harddisks
> > without overheating
> > asetec waterchill cooling CPU, GPU, NB, and soon raid arrys...
> > only 2x120mm fans which are not silent but very low noise
> >
> >
>
>

Joachim Klein wrote:
> Precisely.
> To move the array within the same controller indeed shouldn´t be very
> critical as the RAID-BIOS is the same. But you gain nothing except the
> stylish thin cables


Ribbon cables are bad enough when you only have a 4 drive
RAID and a couple of optical drives - but the OP has
10 hard drives and 2 optical drives. I would think that
getting down to just one ribbon cable for the optical
drives and using SATA cables would be critical. Even if
some of his hard drives are PATA, he should consider using
SATA cables and some SATA-to-PATA adapters.

In addition to merely making the interior of the case more
managable, the improved airflow can reduce temperatures in
the case enough that it will make a difference in the lifetimes
of the drives - not to mention the other components in the case.
I once saw a 6'C drop in the case temperature and an 4'C drop
in hard drive temperatures just by moving from 3 ribbon cables
to 1 ribbon and 4 SATA: the SATA-to-PATA bridges that I
had to use were well worth there small cost.
It also resulted in a noticably quieter system.


in the end as the Promise SATA-ports are attached to the
> PCI bus in the same way the PATA-ports are...
>
> I think I´ll backup my RAID 0 array and just try...
>
> Thanx for your precious advice !
>
> Cya -
>
> Joachim
> "DanO" <> wrote in message
> news:Qj2xb.19617$. com...
>
>>I concur that you can move a Promise Stripeset from Promise controller to
>>Promise Controller. I understood the OP to mean move from Promise PATA to
>>Intel SATA. My bad... Although, it would seem to be a waste to not use
>
> the
>
>>Intel SATA Raid as it takes the load off of the PCI bus.
>>
>>"Lasse Lundberg" <> wrote in message
>>news:bq2a0s$950$...
>>
>>>"Joachim Klein" <> wrote in message
>>>news:bq0dbu$5d0$06$...
>>>
>>>>Hi!
>>>>I have a stripeset of 2 Hitachi Deskstar 180 GXPs on the P4C800-E´s
>
> PATA
>
>>>>RAID-port (Promise 378). I also have a nice set of two Abit Serillel
>>>>PATA-to-SATA dongles.
>>>>Can I move this stripeset from PATA to SATA w/o having to reinstall
>
> the
>
>>>>whole f...ing system ?
>>>>Did anyone try this ?
>>>>Thanx in advance for your input !
>>>
>>>
>>>i dont think the other who have replied to your post have actually tried
>>
>>it
>>
>>>! i can tell you that i succesfully moved 2x120gb from the one pata
>
> cable
>
>>to
>>
>>>th 2 sata ports on the promise controller, also using pata to sata
>>>converters....no problem, didnt even have to go into the promise bios or
>>>anything....i just moved them !
>>>
>>>also i moved them from an promise sx4000 controller to the onboard, and
>>
>>the
>>
>>>onboard promise recognised everything...
>>>
>>>both times i was moving raid 0 arrays.....both times i had zero trouble
>
> !
>
>>>promise controllers stores all information about the array on the HD so
>>
>>when
>>
>>>you move them the new promise controller will look on the disk for
>>>info....no prob
>>>
>>>you cant move the stripe to the southbrige (intel)controller that wont
>>>work....only promise to promise
>>>
>>>Lasse
>>>p4c800-e 2.8 @ 3.4 2x512 hyperx 3200
>>>4x120gb raid 0 on onboard promise controller
>>>4x250gb raid 5 on promise sx4000 controller with 256 mb cache
>>>2x36 gb raid 0 raptors on onboard intel controller
>>>yamaha fs1 burner
>>>some ugly 48 speed cdrom drive
>>>audigy2
>>>hauppauge PVR350
>>>antec 550 w truepower in aopen hx08 highly modifyed to acommodate
>>
>>harddisks
>>
>>>without overheating
>>>asetec waterchill cooling CPU, GPU, NB, and soon raid arrys...
>>>only 2x120mm fans which are not silent but very low noise
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


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