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Darth Joules
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      12-22-2003, 11:25 PM
I need a little help, here are the parts I have already for my new PC
which I plan to overclock:

AMD Athlon XP 2800 Barton (week 39 don't know if its locked)
Swiftech MCX478-V heatsink with Delta 92mm HHE fan (@ 80CFM and yes
it's noisy)
Philips CD R/RW
IBM Deskstar 180GXP 60Gb HD
Panasonic Floppy Drive
Iomega internal Zip 100 drive
Lian-Li PC65B modded with 7x 80mm fans
Rounded cables

And these are the parts I plan to buy:

Chaintech 7NJS Zenith Ultra (or the non-Ultra version)
Sparkle GeForce FX5700 Ultra Platinum
Corsair Twinx 2x512MB XMS3200 Pro
IBM Deskstar 180GXP 60Gb HD x2 (or 120Gb x1)
Akasa Fan Controller Pro
Antec TrueBlue 480 PSU (or Enermax 460W ATX Power Supply)
Swiftech MCX159-A (northbridge cooling)

A few questions about waht I am going to get....

What's the difference between the Corsair Twinx 2x512MB XMS3200 Pro
and the Corsair Twinx 2x512MB XMS3200LL DDR? And which is better? I'm
not that keen on the new heatspreader on the Corsair XMS series.
Those LEDs, are they any use what so ever? Is OCZ PC3200 1024Mb
Platinum DDR (2 sticks) any better than Corsair?

Also would PC3500 DDR RAM work on the Zenith Ultra (or non-Ultra)
eventhough they are spec'd at taking up to 400Mhz DDR RAM?

Which is more reliable and quieter as a PSU the Antec TrueBlue or the
Enermax?

Which is the better mobo the Zenith Ultra or the non-Ultra version?
Both board are identical expect the Ultra version can go beyond 200Mhz
FSB (as far as I know the non-Ultra can't yet). And the Ultra version
has the N-Force 2 Ultra chipset, but is it better than the standard
N-Force 2 chipset on the non-Ultra board? So is the Ultra mobo worth
the extra cash for having the N-Force 2 Ultra chipset?

Please let me know what you all think and any advice you can give me.


Cheers,

Darth Joules

 
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LeeB18509
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      12-22-2003, 11:40 PM

"Darth Joules" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I need a little help, here are the parts I have already for my new PC
> which I plan to overclock:
>
> AMD Athlon XP 2800 Barton (week 39 don't know if its locked)
> Swiftech MCX478-V heatsink with Delta 92mm HHE fan (@ 80CFM and yes
> it's noisy)
> Philips CD R/RW
> IBM Deskstar 180GXP 60Gb HD
> Panasonic Floppy Drive
> Iomega internal Zip 100 drive
> Lian-Li PC65B modded with 7x 80mm fans
> Rounded cables
>
> And these are the parts I plan to buy:
>
> Chaintech 7NJS Zenith Ultra (or the non-Ultra version)
> Sparkle GeForce FX5700 Ultra Platinum
> Corsair Twinx 2x512MB XMS3200 Pro
> IBM Deskstar 180GXP 60Gb HD x2 (or 120Gb x1)
> Akasa Fan Controller Pro
> Antec TrueBlue 480 PSU (or Enermax 460W ATX Power Supply)
> Swiftech MCX159-A (northbridge cooling)


-----------------I'd definitely lose the 5700 Ultra, in that price range an
ATI 9600XT would be a much better card

>
> A few questions about waht I am going to get....
>
> What's the difference between the Corsair Twinx 2x512MB XMS3200 Pro
> and the Corsair Twinx 2x512MB XMS3200LL DDR? And which is better? I'm
> not that keen on the new heatspreader on the Corsair XMS series.
> Those LEDs, are they any use what so ever? Is OCZ PC3200 1024Mb
> Platinum DDR (2 sticks) any better than Corsair?
>


--------------No difference in the memory, the Pro just has those led's from
what I could gather at Newegg. I have the OCZ which is fine but I think
they're both about the same. At least they're rated for identical speeds
and timings. 2-3-2-6

> Also would PC3500 DDR RAM work on the Zenith Ultra (or non-Ultra)
> eventhough they are spec'd at taking up to 400Mhz DDR RAM?


---------------Yes. PC3500 is rated for a 217Mhz FSB. DDR rating 433. It
will run at 200. Or PC3200 speed.

>
> Which is more reliable and quieter as a PSU the Antec TrueBlue or the
> Enermax?
>
> Which is the better mobo the Zenith Ultra or the non-Ultra version?
> Both board are identical expect the Ultra version can go beyond 200Mhz
> FSB (as far as I know the non-Ultra can't yet). And the Ultra version
> has the N-Force 2 Ultra chipset, but is it better than the standard
> N-Force 2 chipset on the non-Ultra board? So is the Ultra mobo worth
> the extra cash for having the N-Force 2 Ultra chipset?
>
> Please let me know what you all think and any advice you can give me.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Darth Joules
>


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rms
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      12-23-2003, 12:08 AM
> -----------------I'd definitely lose the 5700 Ultra, in that price range
an
> ATI 9600XT would be a much better card


Or the 5900FX + CoD bundle for $200.

rms


 
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      12-23-2003, 12:53 AM

"rms" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> > -----------------I'd definitely lose the 5700 Ultra, in that price range

> an
> > ATI 9600XT would be a much better card

>
> Or the 5900FX + CoD bundle for $200.
>
> rms
>
>

I'd rather buy COD, get HL2 free and have a card that can play them both.


 
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DaveL
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      12-23-2003, 02:15 AM
The 5900 smokes the 9600xt for the same cost. All of the review sites are
now saying the 5900 is the best buy. Plus, at this moment, HL2 is nothing
but vaporware.

Dave


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> "rms" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> > > -----------------I'd definitely lose the 5700 Ultra, in that price

range
> > an
> > > ATI 9600XT would be a much better card

> >
> > Or the 5900FX + CoD bundle for $200.
> >
> > rms
> >
> >

> I'd rather buy COD, get HL2 free and have a card that can play them both.
>
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      12-23-2003, 02:43 AM
Darth Joules wrote:
> I need a little help, here are the parts I have already for my new PC
> which I plan to overclock:


<snip>
> IBM Deskstar 180GXP 60Gb HD


I dunno if they ever fixed the 60 Gb deskstar, but a year or so ago, it had
the highest failure rate of any hard drive ever.

Western Digital 8meg Buffer HDDs have been my choice for awhile. An 80 Gb 8
meg buffer Western Digital should be available just about anywhere right
around $80.00 USD


 
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      12-23-2003, 05:48 AM

"i'm_tired" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Darth Joules wrote:
> > I need a little help, here are the parts I have already for my new PC
> > which I plan to overclock:

>
> <snip>
> > IBM Deskstar 180GXP 60Gb HD

>
> I dunno if they ever fixed the 60 Gb deskstar, but a year or so ago, it

had
> the highest failure rate of any hard drive ever.
>


The new IBMs get great reviews now. I remember the horror stories associated
with those drives but theyre supposed to outperform the WD 8mb drives.

> Western Digital 8meg Buffer HDDs have been my choice for awhile. An 80 Gb

8
> meg buffer Western Digital should be available just about anywhere right
> around $80.00 USD
>


I have one of these Drives. I dont see a performance gain with the extra
cache. I'm not impressed at all. Every now & then the drive makes a click
like its coming out of suspend or like I unplugged it. None of my other WDs
did that before. Anybody else getting this?

Happy holidays!
Adam
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Ed
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      12-23-2003, 06:06 AM
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 05:48:41 GMT, "A. Paris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

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>"i'm_tired" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:xZNFb.114842$8y1.357043@attbi_s52...
>> Darth Joules wrote:
>> > I need a little help, here are the parts I have already for my new PC
>> > which I plan to overclock:

>>
>> <snip>
>> > IBM Deskstar 180GXP 60Gb HD

>>
>> I dunno if they ever fixed the 60 Gb deskstar, but a year or so ago, it

>had
>> the highest failure rate of any hard drive ever.
>>

>
>The new IBMs get great reviews now. I remember the horror stories associated
>with those drives but theyre supposed to outperform the WD 8mb drives.
>
>> Western Digital 8meg Buffer HDDs have been my choice for awhile. An 80 Gb

>8
>> meg buffer Western Digital should be available just about anywhere right
>> around $80.00 USD
>>

>
>I have one of these Drives. I dont see a performance gain with the extra
>cache. I'm not impressed at all. Every now & then the drive makes a click
>like its coming out of suspend or like I unplugged it. None of my other WDs
>did that before. Anybody else getting this?


No, mine work great and a have noticeable performance boost, you must
have bad one/install or something?
>
>Happy holidays!
>Adam
>>

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rms
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      12-23-2003, 05:07 PM
As far as the rest of the system, if I was buying now I'd get a AThlon64
3000+ and a Asus K8V, $350 or so for the bundle.

rms


 
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Frank Jelenko
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      12-24-2003, 02:56 AM
As I remember, it was the 120GXP's that are known as Deathstars.

In following the newsgroup on storage, the 180GXP's and on seem to have
fixed the deathstar problems.
"i'm_tired" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Darth Joules wrote:
> > I need a little help, here are the parts I have already for my new PC
> > which I plan to overclock:

>
> <snip>
> > IBM Deskstar 180GXP 60Gb HD

>
> I dunno if they ever fixed the 60 Gb deskstar, but a year or so ago, it

had
> the highest failure rate of any hard drive ever.
>
> Western Digital 8meg Buffer HDDs have been my choice for awhile. An 80 Gb

8
> meg buffer Western Digital should be available just about anywhere right
> around $80.00 USD
>
>



 
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