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Naz
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      05-20-2008, 03:01 AM


It could be the memory i have to check. I know it isn't overheating, and the power supply is fine. If not the memory, overheating, or power supply then what else could it be?


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>I was wondering if anyone can shed some help with a problem i seem to
>incurring...
>
> I have an ASUS P4C800-e Deluxe motherboard, 2 X 512 MB DDR PC 3200, 1 X
> 320 WD HD, an ATI All-In-Wonder 9800 Pro, running with a 430 Watt Power
> supply
>
> Now the problem is that i recently bought a new hard drive (the 320GB) and
> tried formatting to use but every time it was in the middle of formatting
> the drive the pc would restart itself or shut off completely. After a
> while of trying it over and over I finally got it to format using the NTFS
> quick format and eventually after many restarts got it to install windows.
> The problem is that the computer still continues to randomly restart
> itself for no apparent reason. I have had this system running for over 3
> years in the past using a 120 GB HD that i replaced. I have read that if
> the cpu overheats it can cause restarting. MY ASUS Probe says my CPU is
> sometimes 49 C and sometimes 83 C. I have tried removing and replacing the
> RAM with no luck in fixing the problem. Could it be my power supply (which
> I doubt seeing that it has been working for over 3 years with no previous
> problems). Also i have switched the hard drive 3 times at best buy to
> ensure that it wasn't a bad disk. Any help would be appreciated.
>
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>I have the same board and graphic card. When I had a problem with random

restarting, it was a bad memory stick. I ran memory test and found it.





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      05-20-2008, 04:49 AM
Naz wrote:
> It could be the memory i have to check. I know it isn't overheating, and the power supply is fine. If not the memory, overheating, or power supply then what else could it be?
>
>

As I mentioned in an earlier post the capacitors could be failing, or
you could have an overheating video card. Both will give you the
problems you are seeing.


> "Naz" <> wrote in message
> news:027c48b2$0$25033$...
>> I was wondering if anyone can shed some help with a problem i seem to
>> incurring...
>>
>> I have an ASUS P4C800-e Deluxe motherboard, 2 X 512 MB DDR PC 3200, 1 X
>> 320 WD HD, an ATI All-In-Wonder 9800 Pro, running with a 430 Watt Power
>> supply
>>
>> Now the problem is that i recently bought a new hard drive (the 320GB) and
>> tried formatting to use but every time it was in the middle of formatting
>> the drive the pc would restart itself or shut off completely. After a
>> while of trying it over and over I finally got it to format using the NTFS
>> quick format and eventually after many restarts got it to install windows.
>> The problem is that the computer still continues to randomly restart
>> itself for no apparent reason. I have had this system running for over 3
>> years in the past using a 120 GB HD that i replaced. I have read that if
>> the cpu overheats it can cause restarting. MY ASUS Probe says my CPU is
>> sometimes 49 C and sometimes 83 C. I have tried removing and replacing the
>> RAM with no luck in fixing the problem. Could it be my power supply (which
>> I doubt seeing that it has been working for over 3 years with no previous
>> problems). Also i have switched the hard drive 3 times at best buy to
>> ensure that it wasn't a bad disk. Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>>
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>> I have the same board and graphic card. When I had a problem with random

> restarting, it was a bad memory stick. I ran memory test and found it.
>
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w_tom
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      05-21-2008, 08:12 AM
On May 19, 10:01 pm, "Naz" <Asusu...@asus.com> wrote:
> It could be the memory i have to check. I know it isn't overheating,
> and thepower supplyis fine. If not the memory, overheating
>, orpower supplythen what else could it be?


It could be those or other items. Will you replace parts until half
the computer has been replaced? That diagnostic procedure is called
shotgunning. Trained technicians, instead, first collect facts that
identify the suspect. IOW, follow the evidence.

What does the system (event) log report? A problem that maybe could
have existed for months - that Windows was working around - is
recorded awaiting a tech. A problem that always existed is finally
aggravated by the new drive.

Is this new drive replacing an old drive or added with that old
drive? If both drive, then which disk drive computer is controlling
both drives? Is it Intel or AMD CPU?

If a computer manufacturer is responsible, then the computer comes
with comprehensive hardware diagnostics. Diagnostics are exactly for
your situation - information maybe obtained in minutes. However if
the manufacturer is not so responsible, then download diagnostic from
each component manufacturer or third party.

Disk drives, (like keyboard, mouse, display, CD-Rom, etc) do not
cause system crashes. If system crash is due to failed hardware, that
list is short - CPU, memory, sound card, video controller, some
motherboard functions, and the many components of a power supply
'system'.

However, adding components (ie larger disk drive) to a power supply
'system' that was always defective can make things worse; cause
frequent restarts. Always defective? Yes, a defective power 'system'
can still boot a computer. A tiny added load (ie disk drive) may be
enough for a defective power 'system' to start crashing a computer.
Is the power 'system' good? Only answer comes from a less than two
minutes of labor and numbers from a tool so ubiquitous as to be sold
even in Kmart - a 3.5 digit multimeter. Procedure is summarized in
"When your computer dies without warning....." starting 6 Feb 2007 in
the newsgroup alt.windows-xp at:
http://tinyurl.com/yvf9vh
Connector chart to locate each color:
http://www.hardwarebook.net/connecto.../atxpower.html

In your case, most important numbers are voltages on any one orange,
red, purple and yellow wires when computer is running and before it
restarts. Those numbers also report things well beyond what you might
assume. Post those numbers here.

You can spend hours - even days - shotgunning this problem. Instead
follow the evidence to zero in on that problem. First collect data
from the system (event) logs, then measure voltages. Finally, execute
comprehensive hardware diagnostics. Results (especially numbers)
reported here and configuration questions answered up top can result
in more helpful information - without speculation. "It could be this
or could be that" will only result in shotgunning - spending more
money and more labor wildly replacing parts.
 
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