On 2007-12-28 20:23:34 +0200, C J Campbell
<> said:
> At the risk of being facetious, have you noticed that all these people
> with Leopard problems claim to have these problems after a 'clean
> install?' Whereas people who do things the way Apple says to do them,
> an update install, do not seem to have so many problems?
>
> Then the guys with problems talk about removing this or that 3rd party
> utility with which they tinker with their systems, re-installing it,
> and having problems. They do a 'clean install and restore,' which means
> they restore all the old settings and drivers and files which might
> have been updated by Leopard, but which get over-ridden by old drivers
> when they do the 'restore,' and then they blame Apple.
>
> What the heck is wrong with doing things the way Apple suggests? Do
> these guys assume that Apple does not know what it is doing or that
> they think Apple does no testing?
>
> And then, when anyone questions them, they potty-talk like a bunch of
> twelve-year olds out behind the gym. This group was once a useful
> source of information, but it has been a long time since anyone has
> posted an actual solution to a problem here.
quad:~ ilgaz$ diskutil list
/dev/disk0
#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER
0: Apple_partition_scheme *149.1 Gi disk0
1: Apple_partition_map 31.5 Ki disk0s1
2: Apple_HFS seagate 148.9 Gi disk0s3
^^^^^
ERASE and INSTALL, zero third party drivers or extra modifications,
even DOCK is how it came/installed.
1: Apple_partition_map 31.5 Ki disk1s1
2: Apple_HFS data 222.2 Gi disk1s3
^^^^^
Install from strach keeping the /Users/ directory on disk, only User
directories stay with their preferences. It has no third party apps
installed, not even Apple iWork, iMovie etc.
3: Apple_HFS repair 11.3 Gi disk1s5
/dev/disk2
^^^^
You will notice from its size, it is a stock Tiger, "repair" partition
with zero third party mods except 2-3 commercial disk utilities like
Diskwarrior.
If I get 188 FPS on Tiger OpenGL tests and 120 FPS on Leopard which
took total 26 hours to hardware test, software test, re-install monster
sized commercial tools, I will report it.
If Tiger "sees" Leopard installed Mini's shared Fax and Leopard doesn't
see even after doing Apple suggested (but needless on my config) CUPS
tricks, I will report it too. Poor mini also doesn't have a single clue
about an actual Postscript option installed Laser printer, lets forget
it. Our fault it must be!
If Leopard tricks me as sending a fax successfully while nothing
happened and multi million company calls me and asks about the fax
never arrived, I will report it. Also even if I buy PageSender or Smith
Micro Fax Stf, it will still happen because of printer issue above.
If Mail.app does fail with 100% CPU usage just because it doesn't do
constintency check on its Caches and dragging syslogd with it because
of massive console.log output, I will report it.
If you will be happy and we will get free of flaming, lets ignore the
errors or trick people saying it is a perfect OS which can be even used
at Mainframes with such stability?
This is Usenet, csms group yes? Not Digg.com Apple section or comment
area of a Mac fanatic blog?
Hard to tell difference lately.
Ilgaz
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