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Barry Watzman
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      10-26-2009, 01:33 AM


1. I didn't say that there were none
2. I did say that "here are more older drives that do draw a bit more"

Two drives doesn't prove anything, either way.


BillW50 wrote:
> Barry Watzman" <> wrote in message
> news:hc24mh$cht$...
>> Very few 2.5" drives draw more than 500ma. Got to newegg, or zzf, or
>> the mfgrs sites and check the specs. VERY few draw over 500ma,
>> because that is the limit on a USB port. There are more older drives
>> that do draw a bit more. But the most I've EVER seen is between 800
>> and 900ma.

>
> I just popped two in and checked them. Both manufactured in 2005. The
> Hitachi even says 5V 1.0A right on the label. Go figure.
>
> Hitachi IC25N060ATMR04-0 60GB 4200rpm ATA-100 (940ma)
> Fujitsu MHV2060AT 60GB 4200rpm ATA-100 (1100ma)
>

 
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      10-26-2009, 03:28 PM
In news:hc2u8g$ddl$,
Barry Watzman typed on Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:33:02 -0400:
> 1. I didn't say that there were none
> 2. I did say that "here are more older drives that do draw a bit
> more"
> Two drives doesn't prove anything, either way.


You are missing my point. First off, I don't consider drives
manufactured in 2005 as old drives yet, do you? I do have three newer
drives:

WD1200BEVE 5400rpm 120GB (08 APR 2008)
WD1600BEVE 5400rpm 160GB (08 FEB 2009)
WD1600BEVE 5400rpm 160GB (08 FEB 2009)

And they all say 5V 0.55A. So that is five 2.5 inch drives that all use
more than 500ma. And I don't have any 2.5 inch drives at all in my
collection that uses 500ma or less. And I do use some of them in USB
enclosures as well. And I don't have any USB power problems from them
even using one USB port.

On a side note about USB power. I have two no-name DVD slimline burners
from China that does something interesting. When I plug them into any
one of my netbooks, the power blinks out for about 200ms and they
reboot. This doesn't happen on my Gateways. Nor does other USB devices
including my Samsung slimline DVD burner. So I don't know how much of a
surge those no-name burners draw, but it must be a lot.

> BillW50 wrote:
>> Barry Watzman" <> wrote in message
>> news:hc24mh$cht$...
>>> Very few 2.5" drives draw more than 500ma. Got to newegg, or zzf,
>>> or the mfgrs sites and check the specs. VERY few draw over 500ma,
>>> because that is the limit on a USB port. There are more older
>>> drives that do draw a bit more. But the most I've EVER seen is
>>> between 800 and 900ma.

>>
>> I just popped two in and checked them. Both manufactured in 2005. The
>> Hitachi even says 5V 1.0A right on the label. Go figure.
>>
>> Hitachi IC25N060ATMR04-0 60GB 4200rpm ATA-100 (940ma)
>> Fujitsu MHV2060AT 60GB 4200rpm ATA-100 (1100ma)


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~misfit~
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      10-28-2009, 11:15 AM
Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
> In news:hc2u8g$ddl$,
> Barry Watzman typed on Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:33:02 -0400:
>> 1. I didn't say that there were none
>> 2. I did say that "here are more older drives that do draw a bit
>> more"
>> Two drives doesn't prove anything, either way.

>
> You are missing my point. First off, I don't consider drives
> manufactured in 2005 as old drives yet, do you? I do have three newer
> drives:
>
> WD1200BEVE 5400rpm 120GB (08 APR 2008)
> WD1600BEVE 5400rpm 160GB (08 FEB 2009)
> WD1600BEVE 5400rpm 160GB (08 FEB 2009)
>
> And they all say 5V 0.55A. So that is five 2.5 inch drives that all
> use more than 500ma. And I don't have any 2.5 inch drives at all in my
> collection that uses 500ma or less. And I do use some of them in USB
> enclosures as well. And I don't have any USB power problems from them
> even using one USB port.


Don't be any more of a dick than God made you Bill.

From: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=312

[And they should know right?]

Current Requirements
5 VDC
Read/Write 500 mA
Idle 400 mA
Standby 45 mA
Sleep 38 mA

That's for the 160GB. It's the same for the others. But only according to
the manufacturer. Perhaps you know better?

k'wit.

--
Shaun.

"Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's
warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.
> On a side note about USB power. I have two no-name DVD slimline
> burners from China that does something interesting. When I plug them
> into any one of my netbooks, the power blinks out for about 200ms and
> they reboot. This doesn't happen on my Gateways. Nor does other USB
> devices including my Samsung slimline DVD burner. So I don't know how
> much of a surge those no-name burners draw, but it must be a lot.
>
>> BillW50 wrote:
>>> Barry Watzman" <> wrote in message
>>> news:hc24mh$cht$...
>>>> Very few 2.5" drives draw more than 500ma. Got to newegg, or zzf,
>>>> or the mfgrs sites and check the specs. VERY few draw over 500ma,
>>>> because that is the limit on a USB port. There are more older
>>>> drives that do draw a bit more. But the most I've EVER seen is
>>>> between 800 and 900ma.
>>>
>>> I just popped two in and checked them. Both manufactured in 2005.
>>> The Hitachi even says 5V 1.0A right on the label. Go figure.
>>>
>>> Hitachi IC25N060ATMR04-0 60GB 4200rpm ATA-100 (940ma)
>>> Fujitsu MHV2060AT 60GB 4200rpm ATA-100 (1100ma)




 
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      10-28-2009, 01:54 PM

"~misfit~" <> wrote in message
news:hc9959$mjn$...
> Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
>> In news:hc2u8g$ddl$,
>> Barry Watzman typed on Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:33:02 -0400:
>>> 1. I didn't say that there were none
>>> 2. I did say that "here are more older drives that do draw a bit
>>> more"
>>> Two drives doesn't prove anything, either way.

>>
>> You are missing my point. First off, I don't consider drives
>> manufactured in 2005 as old drives yet, do you? I do have three newer
>> drives:
>>
>> WD1200BEVE 5400rpm 120GB (08 APR 2008)
>> WD1600BEVE 5400rpm 160GB (08 FEB 2009)
>> WD1600BEVE 5400rpm 160GB (08 FEB 2009)
>>
>> And they all say 5V 0.55A. So that is five 2.5 inch drives that all
>> use more than 500ma. And I don't have any 2.5 inch drives at all in
>> my
>> collection that uses 500ma or less. And I do use some of them in USB
>> enclosures as well. And I don't have any USB power problems from them
>> even using one USB port.

>
> Don't be any more of a dick than God made you Bill.
>
> From: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=312
>
> [And they should know right?]
>
> Current Requirements
> 5 VDC
> Read/Write 500 mA
> Idle 400 mA
> Standby 45 mA
> Sleep 38 mA
>
> That's for the 160GB. It's the same for the others. But only according
> to the manufacturer. Perhaps you know better?
>
> k'wit.


Hi Shaun. A Dick, eh? We will see who is the Dick! And I am going by the
label on the three drives and they state 0.55A like this one does. If
you can't read it, I'll take a snapshot of one of mine. Or all of them
if you want.

http://www.epelmart.com/images/all/H...0BEVE-unit.jpg

Remember Shaun, read the fine print:

"Product specifications subject to change without notice".

http://www.wdc.com/WDProducts/librar...178-771119.pdf

If they really make 500ma 2.5 inch hard drives, I don't have one yet.
And I got five 2.5 inch drives in the last four years.

> "Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and
> he's warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.
>> On a side note about USB power. I have two no-name DVD slimline
>> burners from China that does something interesting. When I plug them
>> into any one of my netbooks, the power blinks out for about 200ms and
>> they reboot. This doesn't happen on my Gateways. Nor does other USB
>> devices including my Samsung slimline DVD burner. So I don't know how
>> much of a surge those no-name burners draw, but it must be a lot.
>>
>>> BillW50 wrote:
>>>> Barry Watzman" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:hc24mh$cht$...
>>>>> Very few 2.5" drives draw more than 500ma. Got to newegg, or zzf,
>>>>> or the mfgrs sites and check the specs. VERY few draw over 500ma,
>>>>> because that is the limit on a USB port. There are more older
>>>>> drives that do draw a bit more. But the most I've EVER seen is
>>>>> between 800 and 900ma.
>>>>
>>>> I just popped two in and checked them. Both manufactured in 2005.
>>>> The Hitachi even says 5V 1.0A right on the label. Go figure.
>>>>
>>>> Hitachi IC25N060ATMR04-0 60GB 4200rpm ATA-100 (940ma)
>>>> Fujitsu MHV2060AT 60GB 4200rpm ATA-100 (1100ma)


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Windows7 Ultimate (build 7100)
Gateway MX6124 - 2G RAM

 
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