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Colin Wilson
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      04-30-2008, 06:48 PM


> If it ain't broke, I won't fix it, because XP SP3 could break
> something.


IIRC you'll have no option - it'll forcibly download and install
itself sometime around mid-June (I saw a timescale for it somewhere)
 
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Ben Myers
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      04-30-2008, 09:13 PM
Well, you can always turn off automagic updates... Ben Myers

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:48:14 +0100, Colin Wilson
< o.uk> wrote:

>> If it ain't broke, I won't fix it, because XP SP3 could break
>> something.

>
>IIRC you'll have no option - it'll forcibly download and install
>itself sometime around mid-June (I saw a timescale for it somewhere)

 
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Steve W.
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      04-30-2008, 09:50 PM
Colin Wilson wrote:
>> If it ain't broke, I won't fix it, because XP SP3 could break
>> something.

>
> IIRC you'll have no option - it'll forcibly download and install
> itself sometime around mid-June (I saw a timescale for it somewhere)


You ALWAYS have the option to not install updates.
You just turn off the nannyware that MS installs.
I only install updates that actually are needed. Being on dial-up also
limits my exposure to problems.

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Colin Wilson
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      04-30-2008, 10:22 PM
> Well, you can always turn off automagic updates... Ben Myers

Ooh, you mean like the update they forced a couple of months ago,
whether automatic updates were switched on _or_ off ?

I can find references if you like...
 
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Colin Wilson
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      04-30-2008, 10:23 PM
> You ALWAYS have the option to not install updates.

DING wrong answer.

Microsoft can and do force updates when they feel like it.
 
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      05-01-2008, 04:37 AM

"Colin Wilson" < o.uk> wrote
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>> Well, you can always turn off automagic updates... Ben Myers

>
> Ooh, you mean like the update they forced a couple of months ago,
> whether automatic updates were switched on _or_ off ?
>
> I can find references if you like...



So, if that is your understanding, you can explain why I'm still running IE6
having never installed IE7?

They attempted a forced "push" on IE7 most recently. I'd already
de-selected the update months earlier.

Not sure if it prompted me again during this latest MS forced "push", but I
can tell you that IE7 still hasn't made it down to my machine.

My update settings are configured to prompt me so as to allow a look at any
files coming down before I actually download them.

MS wouldn't dare shove SP3 down the throats of the corporates.

No flame, btw.


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      05-01-2008, 04:43 AM

"Colin Wilson" < o.uk> wrote
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>> You ALWAYS have the option to not install updates.

>
> DING wrong answer.
>
> Microsoft can and do force updates when they feel like it.



They may have that ability, but they wouldn't intentionally do that to major
corporate customers.

It would be suicide.

Imagine a company with an install base well into the thousands of machines.
MS has to leave the option(s) for businesses (and others with the proper
WinUpdate settings) to opt out.


 
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Fred
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      05-01-2008, 05:44 AM

"S.Lewis" <> wrote in message
news:H_aSj.45503$%.. .
>
> "Colin Wilson" < o.uk>
> wrote in message news: g...
>>> You ALWAYS have the option to not install updates.

>>
>> DING wrong answer.
>>
>> Microsoft can and do force updates when they feel like it.

>
>
> They may have that ability, but they wouldn't intentionally do that to
> major corporate customers.
>
> It would be suicide.
>
> Imagine a company with an install base well into the thousands of
> machines. MS has to leave the option(s) for businesses (and others with
> the proper WinUpdate settings) to opt out.


It's the Windows Update Service Program itself that silently updates without
notification regardless of user settings.
Microsoft spokesman spin on the matter here.
http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...e.aspx#1950960


 
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Colin Wilson
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      05-01-2008, 08:27 AM
> It's the Windows Update Service Program itself that silently updates without
> notification regardless of user settings.


That's the bugger, either way, the last time they did it, it caused
all manner of problems for sysadmins - besides, how do you KNOW it was
only the update service itself that was tweaked.
 
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Steve W.
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      05-01-2008, 01:33 PM
Colin Wilson wrote:
>> It's the Windows Update Service Program itself that silently updates without
>> notification regardless of user settings.

>
> That's the bugger, either way, the last time they did it, it caused
> all manner of problems for sysadmins - besides, how do you KNOW it was
> only the update service itself that was tweaked.


It can be disabled.

"Before closing, I would like to address another misconception that I
have seen publically reported. WU does not automatically update itself
when Automatic Updates is turned off, this only happens when the
customer is using WU to automatically install upgrades or to be notified
of updates."

Notice how it is ONLY updated if you use it? And that it CAN be turned off.


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