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Paul
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      08-18-2008, 06:42 PM


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> Hi, my PC is configured in this way.
> I have:
> 1 HD with OS (Win XP Pro)
> 2 HDs 160 GB (320 GB) in Raid0
> 2 HDs 250 Gb (500 GB) in RAID0
>
> I use Asus P5W DH DELUXE and the driver is: Intel ICH7R 32 bit RAID
> Driver
>
> Yesterday I have removed a cable of an HD from the raid0 for some
> minutes. Then I have plugged it again.
> Now when I turn on my PC, on the second black screening on the right I
> see some green writings (4-5 writings) NO RAID0
> But I think there is RAID0 and my PC works fine.
> Why I have that problem? Could I remove those writings?
> thanks


Go to PDF page 85.

ftp://download.intel.com/support/chi...nual50_oem.pdf

21 Troubleshooting
21.1.1 Failed RAID 0 Volume
Missing Hard Drive Member

"Missing Hard Drive Member

1. Make sure the system is powered off.
2. Reconnect the missing hard drive.
3. Power on the system. During the system startup, the Intel Matrix Storage Manager
option ROM user interface will display the RAID 0 volume as ‘Normal’.
4. After the operating system is running, select Intel Matrix Storage Console from the
Start menu or click the Intel Matrix Storage Manager tray icon.
5. From the View menu, select ‘Advanced Mode’ to see a detailed view of device storage
information.
6. Right click the RAID 0 volume in the device pane to confirm that it is operating
normally. The status in the information pane will display as ‘Normal’. "

In other words, a disconnected RAID0 drive, should be correctly
handled once it is plugged in again. But use the "Intel Matrix Storage Console"
you installed in Windows, to verify the array status.

Paul
 
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      08-19-2008, 12:46 AM
wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> thanks for your news. I am not an experte huy. I attach you the info
> of my HD (with Intel Matrix Storage Console) could yoy see it verify
> if my HDs are configured in RAID0?
>
> I think to have:
> 1 HD with OS (Win XP Pro)
> 2 HDs 160 GB (320 GB) in RAID0
> 2 HDs 250 Gb (500 GB) in RAID0
>
> Thanks again
>
>
> System Information
>
> Kit Installed: 6.0.0.1021
> Kit Install History: 6.0.0.1021
> Shell Version: 6.0.0.1021
>
> OS Name: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
> OS Version: 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
> System Name: EXPLORIN-8U26JT
> System Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
> System Model: P5W DH Deluxe
> Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
> BIOS Version/Date: American Megatrends Inc. 1901 , 01/24/2007
>
> Language: ITA
>
>
> Intel(R) RAID Technology
>
> Intel RAID Controller: Intel(R) 82801GR/GH SATA RAID Controller
> Number of Serial ATA ports: 4
>
> RAID Option ROM Version: 5.1.2.1002
> Driver Version: 6.0.0.1021
> RAID Plug-In Version: 6.0.0.1021
> Language Resource Version of the RAID Plug-In: 6.0.0.1021
> Create Volume Wizard Version: 6.0.0.1021
> Language Resource Version of the Create Volume Wizard: 6.0.0.1021
> Create Volume from Existing Hard Drive Wizard Version: 6.0.0.1021
> Language Resource Version of the Create Volume from Existing Hard
> Drive Wizard: 6.0.0.1021
> Modify Volume Wizard Version: 6.0.0.1021
> Language Resource Version of the Modify Volume Wizard: 6.0.0.1021
> Delete Volume Wizard Version: 6.0.0.1021
> Language Resource Version of the Delete Volume Wizard: 6.0.0.1021
> ISDI Library Version: 6.0.0.1021
> Event Monitor User Notification Tool Version: 6.0.0.1021
> Language Resource Version of the Event Monitor User Notification Tool:
> 6.0.0.1021
> Event Monitor Version: 6.0.0.1021
>
> Array_0000
> Status: No active migration(s)
> Hard Drive Write Cache Enabled: Yes
> Size: 298.1 GB
> Free Space: 0 GB
> Number of Hard Drives: 2
> Hard Drive Member 1: ST3160811AS
> Hard Drive Member 2: ST3160811AS
> Number of Volumes: 1
> Volume Member 1: Volume0
>
> Volume0
> Status: Normal
> System Volume: No
> Volume Write-Back Cache Enabled: No
> RAID Level: RAID 0 (striping)
> Strip Size: 128 KB
> Size: 298 GB
> Number of Hard Drives: 2
> Hard Drive Member 1: ST3160811AS
> Hard Drive Member 2: ST3160811AS
> Parent Array: Array_0000
>
> Hard Drive 0
> Usage: Non-RAID hard drive
> Status: Normal
> Device Port: 0
> Device Port Location: Internal
> Current Serial ATA Transfer Mode: Generation 2
> Model: ST3160815AS
> Serial Number: 5RA0GHGZ
> Firmware: 3.AAC
> Native Command Queuing Support: Yes
> System Hard Drive: Yes
> Size: 149 GB
>
> Hard Drive 1
> Usage: Non-RAID hard drive
> Status: Normal
> Device Port: 1
> Device Port Location: Internal
> Current Serial ATA Transfer Mode: Generation 2
> Model: External Disk 0
> Serial Number: 038B2DF__________0_8
> Firmware: RGL10364
> Native Command Queuing Support: No
> System Hard Drive: No
> Size: 465.7 GB
>
> Hard Drive 2
> Usage: Array member
> Status: Normal
> Device Port: 2
> Device Port Location: Internal
> Current Serial ATA Transfer Mode: Generation 2
> Model: ST3160811AS
> Serial Number: 6PT2C518
> Firmware: 3.AAE
> Native Command Queuing Support: Yes
> Hard Drive Write Cache Enabled: Yes
> Size: 149 GB
> Number of Volumes: 1
> Volume Member 1: Volume0
> Parent Array: Array_0000
>
> Hard Drive 3
> Usage: Array member
> Status: Normal
> Device Port: 3
> Device Port Location: Internal
> Current Serial ATA Transfer Mode: Generation 2
> Model: ST3160811AS
> Serial Number: 6PT29497
> Firmware: 3.AAE
> Native Command Queuing Support: Yes
> Hard Drive Write Cache Enabled: Yes
> Size: 149 GB
> Number of Volumes: 1
> Volume Member 1: Volume0
> Parent Array: Array_0000
>


This is the hardware diagram for storage for your P5WDH motherboard.
Your report above, and the hardware numbers you quote, tell me there
are at least five hard drives present.

PCI-E x1 Hub_bus
| |
| |
JMB363 Southbridge ------ PRI_IDE
| | \ | | | \
SATA Ext Pri Sata Sata Sata \
RAID Sata EIDE 1 3 4 \
1 Silicon (Hardware
Image RAID
4723 Chip)
| |
(EZ_RAID1) Sata Sata (EZ_RAID2)

* FAST/RAID 0
* SAFE/RAID 1
* BIG/Spanning
* JBOD/Port Multiplier

This is what your report suggests to me.

PCI-E x1 Hub_bus
| |
| |
JMB363 S o u t h b r i d g e
| | \ | | | \
SATA Ext Pri Sata Sata Sata \
RAID Sata EIDE 1 3 4 \ (465GB)
1 (160GB) (160GB) (160GB) S i l i c o n
5RA0GHGZ 6PT2C518 6PT29497 I m a g e
\ / 4723
Array_0000 |<-- RAID0? -->|
320GB total Sata Span? Sata
(250GB) (250GB)

What cannot be shown in your report, is the configuration on the
SIL4723 chip. It is "hidden" from the Intel reporting software,
and simply is showing up as a "465GB" disk. It could be in RAID0
mode, or it could be running in Spanning mode.

If the diagram above is correct, you should be able to use the
"Asus EZ-Backup Software" from the motherboard CD, to view the
status of the two hard drives on the SIL4723. If the "(465GB)"
in the diagram above, had been used as part of a RAID array
at the Intel level, then the Asus EZ-Backup Software might not
work.

(Your two 250GB disks could be connected here.)
http://csg.cizgi.com.tr/images/raid/image070.jpg

"Asus EZ-Backup Software" - check the status of the two 250GB disks
http://csg.cizgi.com.tr/images/raid/image072.jpg

(Pictures are from this page...)
http://www.hololu.net/wordpress/inde...netleyicileri/

The question now, is where is the message coming from ? Is the
message issued by the Intel ports with 6PT2C518 and 6PT29497 ?
Or is the message coming from some Silicon Image BIOS code,
indicating an issue with the two 250GB drives ?

(View the ASCII diagrams above in a fixed font, such as Courier. Copy
the diagram to a text editor, like Notepad, and use Courier font to
view them.)

Paul
 
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      08-23-2008, 12:51 PM
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> If I format my HD and if I have RAID really, could you tell me if
> those green writings (no RAID) will disappear?
> thanks


No, I don't think so.

The status you're getting, is probably coming from a check of
the "reserved sectors" on each drive.

When you format the partition on that array while in Windows,
the reserved sectors are not touched by the formatting operation.
So the annoying error message will remain.

To change the reserved sector information content, you'd
have to use the motherboard jumper procedure. In the BIOS,
is a setting which causes the jumpers to be re-read. Go
to the BIOS and set...

"Enable Backup RAID Mode Change" [Enabled]

You then "Save and Exit", so that the new BIOS value is stored.
(When you read it later on, it will revert to [Disabled], as the
control is a one-shot operation, and clears itself when the update
operation is finished. So after the next computer startup, it will
say it is Disabled, and you leave it alone and don't change it
again. Setting it to Enabled once, should be enough to fix your
problem.)

When the computer starts again, you'll see this printed on the screen.

"EZ Backup RAID Mode will change.
Press F1 to continue."

When you press F1, the computer should then continue the boot sequence.

The "reserved sectors" should get overwritten with new RAID disk information.
The contents (the data) on the array could be *erased* by this
operation, if, for example, the disks are put in a different order.
(On a pair of RAID0 disks, one is the "odd" disk, and the other one
is the "even" disk. That relationship should remain fixed the same
way, for the data to be retrievable from the array. Swapping the cables
on the disks, and then doing the above BIOS operation, would exchange
the odd and even disks and spoil the data on the array.)

The jumpers are shown in the manual, this way. You say that you're
using RAID0, so there should be one jumper present, as shown in
the figure on the right hand side here. Check your user manual, for
a more realistic version of this picture. Using the
"Enable Backup RAID Mode Change" BIOS setting, is what causes
the jumper value to be re-read and applied to the two disks
on the EZ_RAID1 and EZ_RAID2 SATA ports. This 2x3 jumper block
is near the IDE ribbon cable connector.

X X X X X X X X X
^ ^ ^ ^
| | | |
v v v v
X X X X X X X X X

RAID1 BIG mode RAID0

I was hoping the "EzRaid Manager V3.0.0.44A" would tell you something,
so you would at least understand what happened. But I guess we'll
never know. When you do the above operation, the Event Log will
likely get flushed out.

I was also hoping that you would mention whether the diagram I drew
of your disk configuration was correct or not. As the above operation
is dangerous, and can cause a problem with the EZ_RAID disks, you
should be absolutely sure that the two 250MB disks are connected to
the EZ_RAID1 and EZ_RAID2 connectors. And, that any data stored
on the two 250MB disks, is backed up somewhere. I don't want
your next question to be - "how do I get my data back ?"

PCI-E x1 Hub_bus
| |
| |
JMB363 S o u t h b r i d g e
| | \ | | | \
SATA Ext Pri Sata Sata Sata \
RAID Sata EIDE 1 3 4 \ (465GB)
1 (160GB) (160GB) (160GB) S i l i c o n
5RA0GHGZ 6PT2C518 6PT29497 I m a g e
\ / 4723
Array_0000 |<-- RAID0? -->|
320GB total Sata Span? Sata
(250GB) (250GB)
^ ^
| |
| |
"Enable Backup RAID Mode Change"
and the 2x3 jumper block, control
and affect the data on these two
disks !!! Be careful!

Your motherboard is very very complicated. And playing with
disks at any time is dangerous. I hope you have a good
backup plan, so that if any of your disks get erased,
you can recover from the data loss.

HTH,
Paul
 
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