Re: Rosetta benchmarks

G.T. <> wrote:

> I'm starting to think about picking up a 17" iMac to replace my 2x800MHz G4
> tower. The one thing holding me back is that it sounds like Adobe won't be
> releasing a Universal binary for Photoshop until next year. The Adobe
> Lightroom beta is a Universal binary already, though, and most of my imaging
> needs are just RAW conversion with a little cropping and downsizing.
>
> Anyway, for Photoshop, are there benchmarks that compare Photoshop
> performance on the Intel Macs to performance on something the class of my
> G4?
>
> If not, can I get some honest opinions on the speed difference I will see,
> faster or slower, with Photoshop on the 1.83GHz Core Duo?
>
> I'm also thinking about picking up an iMac G5 but I don't know how much
> better the performance will be going from the dual 800 G4 to a single 2.1GHz
> G5.

The UK MacWorld magazine did a benchmark test last month, they found
that most processes are about 50% in Rosetta compared running on a true
G5.

They listed the following tests:

iTunes - 45 mins of music converted from MP3 to AAC.

Dual Core 3:41 mins. G5 1:16 mins = 0.34x speed.

Photoshop - 14 scripted tasks on a 50MB file.

Dual Core 2:50 mins. G5 1:16 mins = 0.45x speed.

A word document scroll was a similar difference.

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Andy Hewitt <> wrote:

> The UK MacWorld magazine did a benchmark test last month, they found
> that most processes are about 50% in Rosetta compared running on a true
> G5.
>
> They listed the following tests:
>
> iTunes - 45 mins of music converted from MP3 to AAC.
>
> Dual Core 3:41 mins. G5 1:16 mins = 0.34x speed.

That's strange ... surely iTunes is a Universal application.

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Adrian

Adrian <> wrote:

> Andy Hewitt <> wrote:
>
> > The UK MacWorld magazine did a benchmark test last month, they found
> > that most processes are about 50% in Rosetta compared running on a true
> > G5.
> >
> > They listed the following tests:
> >
> > iTunes - 45 mins of music converted from MP3 to AAC.
> >
> > Dual Core 3:41 mins. G5 1:16 mins = 0.34x speed.
>
> That's strange ... surely iTunes is a Universal application.

It is, but you can set apps to run in either mode.

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Andy Hewitt <> wrote:

> It is, but you can set apps to run in either mode.

That's taking things to extremes! Why force a Universal application to
run in Rossetta? I suppose it's a curiosity, but it comes as no surprise
that it is considerably slower than running natively or on an old (!)
G5.


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Milton Aupperle <> wrote:

> So if you have old plugins that are PowerPC and want to use them in an
> universal app on MacIntel, then you have to run the universal app in
> PPC Rosetta mode. Otherwsie ti will never see the PPC Plugins.

My own comment was in relation to iTunes ... is it affected by such
issues?

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Adrian <> wrote:

> Milton Aupperle <> wrote:
>
> > So if you have old plugins that are PowerPC and want to use them in an
> > universal app on MacIntel, then you have to run the universal app in
> > PPC Rosetta mode. Otherwsie ti will never see the PPC Plugins.
>
> My own comment was in relation to iTunes ... is it affected by such
> issues?

Indeed it isn't (or at least not that I know of).

However, it was only done as a test to obtain a benchmark, and in this
case was only some extra data for the analysis. They could easily have
picked another app I'm sure, in any case it had almost the same results
as the other apps tried.

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(updated Jan 2006)

Andy Hewitt <> wrote:

> Adrian <> wrote:
>
> > Milton Aupperle <> wrote:
> >
> > > So if you have old plugins that are PowerPC and want to use them in an
> > > universal app on MacIntel, then you have to run the universal app in
> > > PPC Rosetta mode. Otherwsie ti will never see the PPC Plugins.
> >
> > My own comment was in relation to iTunes ... is it affected by such
> > issues?
>
> Indeed it isn't (or at least not that I know of).

What about the iTunes-LAME import module ?

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Anders Eklöf <andekl_no@saaf_spam.se> wrote:

> Andy Hewitt <> wrote:
>
> > Adrian <> wrote:
> >
> > > Milton Aupperle <> wrote:
> > >
> > > > So if you have old plugins that are PowerPC and want to use them in an
> > > > universal app on MacIntel, then you have to run the universal app in
> > > > PPC Rosetta mode. Otherwsie ti will never see the PPC Plugins.
> > >
> > > My own comment was in relation to iTunes ... is it affected by such
> > > issues?
> >
> > Indeed it isn't (or at least not that I know of).
>
> What about the iTunes-LAME import module ?

Never used it, although I did also wonder about the visualiser plug-ins
too.

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(updated Jan 2006)

On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 20:50:34 +0000, (Andy Hewitt)
wrote:

>Anders Eklöf <andekl_no@saaf_spam.se> wrote:
>
>> Andy Hewitt <> wrote:
>>
>> > Adrian <> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Milton Aupperle <> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > So if you have old plugins that are PowerPC and want to use them in an
>> > > > universal app on MacIntel, then you have to run the universal app in
>> > > > PPC Rosetta mode. Otherwsie ti will never see the PPC Plugins.
>> > >
>> > > My own comment was in relation to iTunes ... is it affected by such
>> > > issues?
>> >
>> > Indeed it isn't (or at least not that I know of).
>>
>> What about the iTunes-LAME import module ?
>
>Never used it, although I did also wonder about the visualiser plug-ins
>too.
This is very strange, I just finished watching the WWDC 2005 Keynote
and it clearly shows that the UB code can also load the PPC plug-ins
(Adobe was CS2 was shown).
Does this mean that Steve was just pulling a worm out of the apple?

<aelaan_spamfree_@nospam.shaw.ca> wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 20:50:34 +0000, (Andy Hewitt)
> wrote:
>
> >Anders Eklöf <andekl_no@saaf_spam.se> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> What about the iTunes-LAME import module ?
> >
> >Never used it, although I did also wonder about the visualiser plug-ins
> >too.
> This is very strange, I just finished watching the WWDC 2005 Keynote
> and it clearly shows that the UB code can also load the PPC plug-ins
> (Adobe was CS2 was shown).

Was CS2 UB code ? Find that hard to beleive, as Adobe still haven't
release a version of Acrobat that works properly in WinXP x64 Edition.
And that OS was released publicly last April 30. At least that is what
Adobe themselves say in their support pages:

http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/331732.html

I haven't seen XP x64 Edition until last week.

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