Re: sharing ical database between accounts?

thepixelfreak <> writes:

>
> Anyone know of a reliable method of sharing iCal database between two
> accounts on the same machine?

Google calendar. I set up google calendar once (I never look at it)
so that all my iCal's (on 3 different machines - one at home, and one
in each of my two offices) synchronize to that Google calendar.

It looks like I am using iCal, and I feel like I am using iCal, but I
can edit this calendar from any of these machines.

http://www.google.com/support/calend...y?answer=99357

This has the further advantage that I can give staff people in my
department permission to view, but not to edit, my calendar.

In article <>,
Doug Anderson <> wrote:

> Google calendar. I set up google calendar once (I never look at it)
> so that all my iCal's (on 3 different machines - one at home, and one
> in each of my two offices) synchronize to that Google calendar.

Excellent! I'm going to play with that, thanks.
--
Suddenly he realized that he was alone
with a giant halfwit on a dark deserted street.
-- Chester Himes

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:20:04 -0400, Doug Anderson wrote
(in article <>):

> thepixelfreak <> writes:
>
>>
>> Anyone know of a reliable method of sharing iCal database between two
>> accounts on the same machine?
>
> Google calendar. I set up google calendar once (I never look at it)
> so that all my iCal's (on 3 different machines - one at home, and one
> in each of my two offices) synchronize to that Google calendar.
>
> It looks like I am using iCal, and I feel like I am using iCal, but I
> can edit this calendar from any of these machines.
>
> http://www.google.com/support/calend...y?answer=99357
>
> This has the further advantage that I can give staff people in my
> department permission to view, but not to edit, my calendar.

Call me paranoid but I'm not about to give Google my personal
information. I use WebDav. See, for example:

http://www.shawnwall.com/teach/webdav-ical.php

--
Nelson

Nelson <> writes:

> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:20:04 -0400, Doug Anderson wrote
> (in article <>):
>
> > thepixelfreak <> writes:
> >
> >>
> >> Anyone know of a reliable method of sharing iCal database between two
> >> accounts on the same machine?
> >
> > Google calendar. I set up google calendar once (I never look at it)
> > so that all my iCal's (on 3 different machines - one at home, and one
> > in each of my two offices) synchronize to that Google calendar.
> >
> > It looks like I am using iCal, and I feel like I am using iCal, but I
> > can edit this calendar from any of these machines.
> >
> > http://www.google.com/support/calend...y?answer=99357
> >
> > This has the further advantage that I can give staff people in my
> > department permission to view, but not to edit, my calendar.
>
> Call me paranoid but I'm not about to give Google my personal
> information. I use WebDav. See, for example:
>
> http://www.shawnwall.com/teach/webdav-ical.php

Yeah - you pays your money (or not in my case), you takes your
chances.

My calendar information is just not that interesting. (In my other
life, as a secret agent, I don't share my calendar.)

I thought about the webdav solution. It doesn't work for me because I
don't want to leave one of my computers on 24/7 serving web pages, and
I have several computer to configure. I also want my office staff to
be able to read my calendar without using iCal. My previous solutions
was to use webdav and box.net, but at the time it was too hard to make
my calendar available to my office staff. (Actually, I also had a
hard time being able to edit the same calendar from more than one
computer, but at least I could _see_ it from more than one computer).

It probably won't work for people who aren't fairly technically
minded. Most such people probably will be discouraged by
"requirements are a mac running os x 10.2 with root enabled, ical
installed, and some knowledge of editing files in a unix shell using
an editor such as vi or emacs. also, for access of your stored
calendars from outside locations, you will need permanent broadband
access for your mac, and know its ip address."

But out of curiosity, if I was doing what you are doing, and if my
computer had a static IP, could I set it up for it to be easy for an
authorized Windows user to read my calendar (but not alter it)?

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:10:33 -0400, Doug Anderson wrote
(in article <>):

> Nelson <> writes:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:20:04 -0400, Doug Anderson wrote
>> (in article <>):
>>
>>> thepixelfreak <> writes:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know of a reliable method of sharing iCal database between two
>>>> accounts on the same machine?
>>>
>>> Google calendar. I set up google calendar once (I never look at it)
>>> so that all my iCal's (on 3 different machines - one at home, and one
>>> in each of my two offices) synchronize to that Google calendar.
>>>
>>> It looks like I am using iCal, and I feel like I am using iCal, but I
>>> can edit this calendar from any of these machines.
>>>
>>> http://www.google.com/support/calend...y?answer=99357
>>>
>>> This has the further advantage that I can give staff people in my
>>> department permission to view, but not to edit, my calendar.
>>
>> Call me paranoid but I'm not about to give Google my personal
>> information. I use WebDav. See, for example:
>>
>> http://www.shawnwall.com/teach/webdav-ical.php
>
> Yeah - you pays your money (or not in my case), you takes your
> chances.
>
> My calendar information is just not that interesting. (In my other
> life, as a secret agent, I don't share my calendar.)
>
> I thought about the webdav solution. It doesn't work for me because I
> don't want to leave one of my computers on 24/7 serving web pages, and
> I have several computer to configure. I also want my office staff to
> be able to read my calendar without using iCal. My previous solutions
> was to use webdav and box.net, but at the time it was too hard to make
> my calendar available to my office staff. (Actually, I also had a
> hard time being able to edit the same calendar from more than one
> computer, but at least I could _see_ it from more than one computer).
>
> It probably won't work for people who aren't fairly technically
> minded. Most such people probably will be discouraged by
> "requirements are a mac running os x 10.2 with root enabled, ical
> installed, and some knowledge of editing files in a unix shell using
> an editor such as vi or emacs. also, for access of your stored
> calendars from outside locations, you will need permanent broadband
> access for your mac, and know its ip address."
>
> But out of curiosity, if I was doing what you are doing, and if my
> computer had a static IP, could I set it up for it to be easy for an
> authorized Windows user to read my calendar (but not alter it)?

I don't know anything about Windows and calendars, so I can't answer
your question.

Note that the OP wanted to share his calendar with his wife on the same
machine, so being available 24/7 is not an issue. In fact, in this
case, WebDav is better because you don't even have to be online.

I wouldn't be so cavalier about Google. The ability to accumulate and
correlate massive amounts of individually insignificant data is at best
an intrusion and at worst a threat. It is not hard to envision a
scenario where knowing your past or planned schedule could cause you
some unpleasantness in the wrong hands.

--
Nelson

Nelson <> writes:

> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:10:33 -0400, Doug Anderson wrote
> (in article <>):
>
> > Nelson <> writes:
> >
> >> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:20:04 -0400, Doug Anderson wrote
> >> (in article <>):
> >>
> >>> thepixelfreak <> writes:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone know of a reliable method of sharing iCal database between two
> >>>> accounts on the same machine?
> >>>
> >>> Google calendar. I set up google calendar once (I never look at it)
> >>> so that all my iCal's (on 3 different machines - one at home, and one
> >>> in each of my two offices) synchronize to that Google calendar.
> >>>
> >>> It looks like I am using iCal, and I feel like I am using iCal, but I
> >>> can edit this calendar from any of these machines.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.google.com/support/calend...y?answer=99357
> >>>
> >>> This has the further advantage that I can give staff people in my
> >>> department permission to view, but not to edit, my calendar.
> >>
> >> Call me paranoid but I'm not about to give Google my personal
> >> information. I use WebDav. See, for example:
> >>
> >> http://www.shawnwall.com/teach/webdav-ical.php
> >
> > Yeah - you pays your money (or not in my case), you takes your
> > chances.
> >
> > My calendar information is just not that interesting. (In my other
> > life, as a secret agent, I don't share my calendar.)
> >
> > I thought about the webdav solution. It doesn't work for me because I
> > don't want to leave one of my computers on 24/7 serving web pages, and
> > I have several computer to configure. I also want my office staff to
> > be able to read my calendar without using iCal. My previous solutions
> > was to use webdav and box.net, but at the time it was too hard to make
> > my calendar available to my office staff. (Actually, I also had a
> > hard time being able to edit the same calendar from more than one
> > computer, but at least I could _see_ it from more than one computer).
> >
> > It probably won't work for people who aren't fairly technically
> > minded. Most such people probably will be discouraged by
> > "requirements are a mac running os x 10.2 with root enabled, ical
> > installed, and some knowledge of editing files in a unix shell using
> > an editor such as vi or emacs. also, for access of your stored
> > calendars from outside locations, you will need permanent broadband
> > access for your mac, and know its ip address."
> >
> > But out of curiosity, if I was doing what you are doing, and if my
> > computer had a static IP, could I set it up for it to be easy for an
> > authorized Windows user to read my calendar (but not alter it)?
>
> I don't know anything about Windows and calendars, so I can't answer
> your question.
>
> Note that the OP wanted to share his calendar with his wife on the same
> machine, so being available 24/7 is not an issue. In fact, in this
> case, WebDav is better because you don't even have to be online.
>
> I wouldn't be so cavalier about Google. The ability to accumulate and
> correlate massive amounts of individually insignificant data is at best
> an intrusion and at worst a threat.

My life may be simpler than yours, but from my perspective, giving
google my calendar information is at best nothing at all, and at
worst an intrustion.

Nevertheless, I can certainly see the value in your solutions for
those who can and are willing to get it working.

> It is not hard to envision a
> scenario where knowing your past or planned schedule could cause you
> some unpleasantness in the wrong hands.

It is a little hard for me. I think I'd have to envision a scenario
where I have a crazy malicious stalker. As common as this seems to be
in Hollywood, it doesn't seem to happen to most of the people I know,
and Glenn Close seems otherwise occupied.

In article < >,
Nelson <> wrote:

> I wouldn't be so cavalier about Google. The ability to accumulate and
> correlate massive amounts of individually insignificant data is at best
> an intrusion and at worst a threat. It is not hard to envision a
> scenario where knowing your past or planned schedule could cause you
> some unpleasantness in the wrong hands.

Yah, and the Mayan calendar's ending any minute now. Jeeeeeesus is
cummin.
--
Suddenly he realized that he was alone
with a giant halfwit on a dark deserted street.
-- Chester Himes

In article <>,
Doug Anderson <> wrote:

> It is a little hard for me. I think I'd have to envision a scenario
> where I have a crazy malicious stalker. As common as this seems to be
> in Hollywood, it doesn't seem to happen to most of the people I know,
> and Glenn Close seems otherwise occupied.

I wish she'd leave me alone. Coming around here, unzipping my fly, it's
annoying.
--
Suddenly he realized that he was alone
with a giant halfwit on a dark deserted street.
-- Chester Himes