Strange Problem

I have a D-Link WBR-1310 Wireless Router

I am able to connect to the internet throughout the whole day but I am
unable to connect to the internet in the morning after a few hours on
inactivity. I am able to connect to the internet if the cable goes from
the modem to the computer's nic card. I can after a few seconds
connected from the modem to the nic card and than transfer the cable
from the modem to router and than put back the cable from the router to
the nic card, it works fine.

Is there a setting that I am forgetting to change so the router does not
do this because it will be a pain to do this every single day? I had to
do this for the 3 mornings I had this router.

Thanks
Dan

This is usually a sign of a bad router, when they need to be reset
periodically.


Dan Sgambelluri wrote:
> I have a D-Link WBR-1310 Wireless Router
>
> I am able to connect to the internet throughout the whole day but I am
> unable to connect to the internet in the morning after a few hours on
> inactivity. I am able to connect to the internet if the cable goes from
> the modem to the computer's nic card. I can after a few seconds
> connected from the modem to the nic card and than transfer the cable
> from the modem to router and than put back the cable from the router to
> the nic card, it works fine.
>
> Is there a setting that I am forgetting to change so the router does not
> do this because it will be a pain to do this every single day? I had to
> do this for the 3 mornings I had this router.
>
> Thanks
> Dan

Barry Watzman wrote:
> This is usually a sign of a bad router, when they need to be reset
> periodically.
>
>
> Dan Sgambelluri wrote:
>> I have a D-Link WBR-1310 Wireless Router
>>
>> I am able to connect to the internet throughout the whole day but I am
>> unable to connect to the internet in the morning after a few hours on
>> inactivity. I am able to connect to the internet if the cable goes
>> from the modem to the computer's nic card. I can after a few seconds
>> connected from the modem to the nic card and than transfer the cable
>> from the modem to router and than put back the cable from the router
>> to the nic card, it works fine.
>>
>> Is there a setting that I am forgetting to change so the router does
>> not do this because it will be a pain to do this every single day? I
>> had to do this for the 3 mornings I had this router.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Dan
just to be sure, you said a bad router like a bad batch or bad router
like router series is crap and get a different type?

Thanks
Dan

Bad router as in your particular router is no longer totally reliable.
This does not mean that another router of the exact same model would
necessarily have the same problem.

However, my one-year failure rate with the low cost routers has been
terrible, I've gone through one to two dozen since I started doing this
in the late 1990's. I've had more problems with Linksys than with
D-Link, and while I used to recommend Linksys, I no longer am able to do
so. I see both failures "out of the box", and also what is more
troubling is failures that develop after 3 to 12 months. These are not
"hard failures" .... the routers work, superficially. But they "lock
up" and need to be reset periodically (anywhere from every few hours to
every few days). If a router can't work reliably for weeks at a time
without locking up and needing to be reset, it has a problem. And this
kind of unreliability is especially unacceptable if you have Internet
phone service (as we do).


Dan Sgambelluri wrote:
> Barry Watzman wrote:
>> This is usually a sign of a bad router, when they need to be reset
>> periodically.
>>
>>
>> Dan Sgambelluri wrote:
>>> I have a D-Link WBR-1310 Wireless Router
>>>
>>> I am able to connect to the internet throughout the whole day but I
>>> am unable to connect to the internet in the morning after a few hours
>>> on inactivity. I am able to connect to the internet if the cable
>>> goes from the modem to the computer's nic card. I can after a few
>>> seconds connected from the modem to the nic card and than transfer
>>> the cable from the modem to router and than put back the cable from
>>> the router to the nic card, it works fine.
>>>
>>> Is there a setting that I am forgetting to change so the router does
>>> not do this because it will be a pain to do this every single day? I
>>> had to do this for the 3 mornings I had this router.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Dan
> just to be sure, you said a bad router like a bad batch or bad router
> like router series is crap and get a different type?
>
> Thanks
> Dan

Before you scrap the router, have your ISP check your modem for resets. My
network was experiencing the same symptoms. Two routers later, I called the
cable company and they reported my 6 year old Toshiba was resetting 300
times a day according to their logs.

"Dan Sgambelluri" <> wrote in message
news:_aalh.529582$1T2.483660@pd7urf2no...
> Barry Watzman wrote:
>> This is usually a sign of a bad router, when they need to be reset
>> periodically.
>>
>>
>> Dan Sgambelluri wrote:
>>> I have a D-Link WBR-1310 Wireless Router
>>>
>>> I am able to connect to the internet throughout the whole day but I am
>>> unable to connect to the internet in the morning after a few hours on
>>> inactivity. I am able to connect to the internet if the cable goes from
>>> the modem to the computer's nic card. I can after a few seconds
>>> connected from the modem to the nic card and than transfer the cable
>>> from the modem to router and than put back the cable from the router to
>>> the nic card, it works fine.
>>>
>>> Is there a setting that I am forgetting to change so the router does not
>>> do this because it will be a pain to do this every single day? I had to
>>> do this for the 3 mornings I had this router.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Dan
> just to be sure, you said a bad router like a bad batch or bad router like
> router series is crap and get a different type?
>
> Thanks
> Dan

SPD wrote:
> Before you scrap the router, have your ISP check your modem for resets. My
> network was experiencing the same symptoms. Two routers later, I called the
> cable company and they reported my 6 year old Toshiba was resetting 300
> times a day according to their logs.
>
What did your ISP do after you contacted them. Did the replace the
modem, fixed
the modem from their end, have a tech come to your place to fix it?
Was your modem bought or rented?

Thanks
Dan

Barry Watzman wrote:
> Bad router as in your particular router is no longer totally reliable.
> This does not mean that another router of the exact same model would
> necessarily have the same problem.
>
> However, my one-year failure rate with the low cost routers has been
> terrible, I've gone through one to two dozen since I started doing this
> in the late 1990's. I've had more problems with Linksys than with
> D-Link, and while I used to recommend Linksys, I no longer am able to do
> so. I see both failures "out of the box", and also what is more
> troubling is failures that develop after 3 to 12 months. These are not
> "hard failures" .... the routers work, superficially. But they "lock
> up" and need to be reset periodically (anywhere from every few hours to
> every few days). If a router can't work reliably for weeks at a time
> without locking up and needing to be reset, it has a problem. And this
> kind of unreliability is especially unacceptable if you have Internet
> phone service (as we do).
>
>

Do you recommend any non cheap low cost wireless router?

Thanks
Dan

> I have a D-Link WBR-1310 Wireless Router
> I am able to connect to the internet throughout the whole day but I am
> unable to connect to the internet in the morning after a few hours on
> inactivity.

I'll start by saying i'm no expert :-}

Check for the IP lease length time - you might need to bump it as high
as possible

There may be a setting to drop the connection after a period of
inactivity - have a good look around the settings !

It sounds like the computer itself isn't connecting, rather than the
router being an issue here - almost as if it isn't using the wireless
side by default until its managed to get "out" via the NIC - not sure
what you might be able to check to try to force it to connect via
wireless though :-(

Rather than connecting the modem to the computers' NIC, how about trying
to connect it to a port on the router, and go into the config from
there, see if it thinks its connected at that stage.

Colin Wilson wrote:
>> I have a D-Link WBR-1310 Wireless Router
>> I am able to connect to the internet throughout the whole day but I am
>> unable to connect to the internet in the morning after a few hours on
>> inactivity.
>
> I'll start by saying i'm no expert :-}
>
> Check for the IP lease length time - you might need to bump it as high
> as possible
>

It says 10080 minutes. I change it to all 9s and see if that helps.

> There may be a setting to drop the connection after a period of
> inactivity - have a good look around the settings !

I hope that is it but I can't find it.

>
> It sounds like the computer itself isn't connecting, rather than the
> router being an issue here - almost as if it isn't using the wireless
> side by default until its managed to get "out" via the NIC - not sure
> what you might be able to check to try to force it to connect via
> wireless though :-(
>
> Rather than connecting the modem to the computers' NIC, how about trying
> to connect it to a port on the router, and go into the config from
> there, see if it thinks its connected at that stage.

I don't understand, can you explain it even easier terms.
I connect the cable modem to the router than to the computer's NIC first
and it works fine until the morning than it does not work. I than
unplug the modem cable that is connected to the router and plug it into
the computer's NIC after I removed the cable that is connect from the
router to the computer's NIC. I am able to get onto the net. I can than re
I do not have wireless on my computer's NIC. It is a wired one.



Thanks
Dan

no cross-posting please. this reply only to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell where it
was read.

i suggest that you check if you have version a, b, or d and then look into
upgrading the firmware.
often these sorts of issues are related to firmware bugs that are resolved
by simply updating to the latest version.
here's the support page for download and instructions for all versions of
you model.
http://www.dlink.com/products/suppor...d=474#firmware
alternatively i suggest that you contact your internet provider. many now
offer a combination modem/wireless-router free of charge. this would be a
good alternative to a seperate modem/router.

"Dan Sgambelluri" <> wrote in message
news:NP9lh.533511$5R2.495089@pd7urf3no...
>I have a D-Link WBR-1310 Wireless Router
>
> I am able to connect to the internet throughout the whole day but I am
> unable to connect to the internet in the morning after a few hours on
> inactivity. I am able to connect to the internet if the cable goes from
> the modem to the computer's nic card. I can after a few seconds connected
> from the modem to the nic card and than transfer the cable from the modem
> to router and than put back the cable from the router to the nic card, it
> works fine.
>
> Is there a setting that I am forgetting to change so the router does not
> do this because it will be a pain to do this every single day? I had to
> do this for the 3 mornings I had this router.
>
> Thanks
> Dan