Re: Toshiba 1135-S155 at Circuit City

Tom Eisenmenger <> wrote:
: I'm looking at one of these as well, $899 after rebate or an open box
: at $809 after rebate at a nearby Circuit City. This is what Toshiba's
: own specs say about the video RAM:

: "32MB internal integrated Intel 852GM video memory"

: No mention of sharing system RAM, looks to me like it's 32MB dedicated
: to the video.

No, "integrated" does not mean "dedicated". "Integrated" most likely
means the video memory is part of the system memory. Some marketing
pipsqueaks may have figured out that "shared" has a negative
connotation. When you see "integrated" or "shared" think "cost
savings for the manufacturer" - exactly what they want for a low-end
laptop.

There's an easy "show me" way to test this for yourself: if you can
play with one of these laptops in the store, go into Control Panel ->
System and see how much RAM is available to the system. My Toshiba
1415, which has 512MB of system RAM, shows 512MB available here; the
16MB of video RAM is dedicated, not shared/integrated. If a machine
is using shared video memory, you'll see a lower number of MB
available on the Control Panel -> System popup.

Andrew
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In article <>, (Andrew) wrote:

>: "32MB internal integrated Intel 852GM video memory"
>
>: No mention of sharing system RAM, looks to me like it's 32MB dedicated
>: to the video.
>
>No, "integrated" does not mean "dedicated". "Integrated" most likely
>means the video memory is part of the system memory. Some marketing
>pipsqueaks may have figured out that "shared" has a negative
>connotation. When you see "integrated" or "shared" think "cost
>savings for the manufacturer" - exactly what they want for a low-end
>laptop.

Yes, Integrated means shared in this computer. My section at work just bought
one for a programmer, and we got to look at it first. It has about 478 Meg
free ram.

It is based on a similar design to my 2435-S255, which has 32 Meg
Dedicated/Separate Video Ram. It shows 512 Meg available.

Lee

On board Intel graphics benchmarks at about 1000 3DMarks (vs. 10000+ for
Radeon 9800). Dog slow by today's standards, if you're doing any sort
of gaming. Otherwise, fine for web browsing.

David Chien <> wrote:
: On board Intel graphics benchmarks at about 1000 3DMarks (vs. 10000+ for
: Radeon 9800). Dog slow by today's standards, if you're doing any sort
: of gaming. Otherwise, fine for web browsing.

Well, that's why they make more expensive laptops, right? I'm
surprised last year's 1415 (that I have now) had separate video RAM -
perhaps because at the time system RAM costs were more and machines
more often had 256MB not 512MB or more. Shared video RAM doesn't take
much away from a 512MB system.

Andrew
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