Re: Hard Drive Problems

"Moosh" <> wrote in message
news:Gx9Ka.495$...
> Hi folks, I just bought a new cheapy system with an 8RDA+ mainboard with a
> Athlon 2000+ on it.
>
> It has a 40 GB Samsung hard drive as master on the primary IDE super ATA
> lead. The whole system works fine with Windows XP. Much too fast for me

>
> When I attach either of my two old "data rich" small hard drives to either
> the slave plug on the super ATA lead or as slave or master on my secondary
> IDE lead, the system usually recognises the drive in the BIOS setup, but
the
> computer merely starts with the Win XP logo for a minute or so and then
goes
> black for the duration. The computer can't then be turned off with the
front
> switch. The folks who sold me the system can't figure out what the problem
> is, they say it should just work and add another drive (letter) to the
> system. The two small drives are a Fujitsu (4GB) and a Seagate (2.1GB)
>
> Anyone with any suggestions please?
>
>
They sound like pretty old drives. are you sure that they are fully ATA
compatible???

I would not put them on the RAID IDE controller. I would use a 40 wire cable
to the old drives, rather than an 80, and I would not use cable select but
set them to master and slave. As said elsewhere, if your boot disk is on the
RAID controller set the BIOS to boot from SCSI, otherwise make the boot disk
the master on the standard IDE primary controller and put the oldies on the
secondary controller.

I don't know exactly when all drives could be assumed to be fully ATA
compatible, but certainly there were partly nonconforming drives on sale in
the very late 90s.
John

"John" <> wrote in message
news:3efb0166$...
>
> "Moosh" <> wrote in message
> news:Gx9Ka.495$...
> > Hi folks, I just bought a new cheapy system with an 8RDA+ mainboard with
a
> > Athlon 2000+ on it.
> >
> > It has a 40 GB Samsung hard drive as master on the primary IDE super ATA
> > lead. The whole system works fine with Windows XP. Much too fast for me
>
> >
> > When I attach either of my two old "data rich" small hard drives to
either
> > the slave plug on the super ATA lead or as slave or master on my
secondary
> > IDE lead, the system usually recognises the drive in the BIOS setup, but
> the
> > computer merely starts with the Win XP logo for a minute or so and then
> goes
> > black for the duration. The computer can't then be turned off with the
> front
> > switch. The folks who sold me the system can't figure out what the
problem
> > is, they say it should just work and add another drive (letter) to the
> > system. The two small drives are a Fujitsu (4GB) and a Seagate (2.1GB)
> >
> > Anyone with any suggestions please?
> >
> >
> They sound like pretty old drives. are you sure that they are fully ATA
> compatible???
>
> I would not put them on the RAID IDE controller. I would use a 40 wire
cable
> to the old drives, rather than an 80, and I would not use cable select but
> set them to master and slave. As said elsewhere, if your boot disk is on
the
> RAID controller set the BIOS to boot from SCSI, otherwise make the boot
disk
> the master on the standard IDE primary controller and put the oldies on
the
> secondary controller.
>
> I don't know exactly when all drives could be assumed to be fully ATA
> compatible, but certainly there were partly nonconforming drives on sale
in
> the very late 90s.
> John

Thanks John. What do you mean "ATA compatible"?
I thought the proper name for IDE was ATA.

I've NOT got a RAID controller. I've got an 80 wire cable (ultra ATA) on the
primary IDE and a 40 on the secondary.
I've tried both old drives (97 and 98) on both cables in various jumper
settings. I'm going to use a more modern drive in my old Win 95 box to
transfer the data to, so that this will hopefully be accepted in my WinXP
box.

"Moosh" <> wrote in message
news:ZkNKa.209$...
>
> "John" <> wrote in message
> news:3efb0166$...
> >
> > "Moosh" <> wrote in message
> > news:Gx9Ka.495$...
> > > Hi folks, I just bought a new cheapy system with an 8RDA+ mainboard
with
> a
> > > Athlon 2000+ on it.
> > >
> > > It has a 40 GB Samsung hard drive as master on the primary IDE super
ATA
> > > lead. The whole system works fine with Windows XP. Much too fast for
me
> >
> > >
> > > When I attach either of my two old "data rich" small hard drives to
> either
> > > the slave plug on the super ATA lead or as slave or master on my
> secondary
> > > IDE lead, the system usually recognises the drive in the BIOS setup,
but
> > the
> > > computer merely starts with the Win XP logo for a minute or so and
then
> > goes
> > > black for the duration. The computer can't then be turned off with the
> > front
> > > switch. The folks who sold me the system can't figure out what the
> problem
> > > is, they say it should just work and add another drive (letter) to the
> > > system. The two small drives are a Fujitsu (4GB) and a Seagate (2.1GB)
> > >
> > > Anyone with any suggestions please?
> > >
> > >
> > They sound like pretty old drives. are you sure that they are fully ATA
> > compatible???
> >
> > I would not put them on the RAID IDE controller. I would use a 40 wire
> cable
> > to the old drives, rather than an 80, and I would not use cable select
but
> > set them to master and slave. As said elsewhere, if your boot disk is on
> the
> > RAID controller set the BIOS to boot from SCSI, otherwise make the boot
> disk
> > the master on the standard IDE primary controller and put the oldies on
> the
> > secondary controller.
> >
> > I don't know exactly when all drives could be assumed to be fully ATA
> > compatible, but certainly there were partly nonconforming drives on sale
> in
> > the very late 90s.
> > John
>
> Thanks John. What do you mean "ATA compatible"?
> I thought the proper name for IDE was ATA.
>
> I've NOT got a RAID controller. I've got an 80 wire cable (ultra ATA) on
the
> primary IDE and a 40 on the secondary.
> I've tried both old drives (97 and 98) on both cables in various jumper
> settings. I'm going to use a more modern drive in my old Win 95 box to
> transfer the data to, so that this will hopefully be accepted in my WinXP
> box.

Hi Moosh,
The IDE spec was around for a while before drive makers could decide on a
common interface. Slower CDROM drives could be a real problem and needed
special drivers, but even hard disks could be a problem if you mixed and
matched different brands. As I said, some not quite compatible drives were
still around in the late 90s. The test is to mount them separately. They
always worked fine as long as they were the only drive (master) on the
controller cable.

Sorry, about the misunderstanding. Someone else was talking RAID and I got
confused. I see someone has recomended you check the drives in the
Administrative Tools > Computer Management area. They should show up there.
If not, then you have a tricky problem. If it is a compatibility problem
perhaps XP cannot cope.

Cheers
John

"John" <> wrote in message
news:3efbde68$...
>
> "Moosh" <> wrote in message
> news:ZkNKa.209$...
> >
> > "John" <> wrote in message
> > news:3efb0166$...
> > >
> > > "Moosh" <> wrote in message
> > > news:Gx9Ka.495$...
> > > > Hi folks, I just bought a new cheapy system with an 8RDA+ mainboard
> with
> > a
> > > > Athlon 2000+ on it.
> > > >
> > > > It has a 40 GB Samsung hard drive as master on the primary IDE super
> ATA
> > > > lead. The whole system works fine with Windows XP. Much too fast for
> me
> > >
> > > >
> > > > When I attach either of my two old "data rich" small hard drives to
> > either
> > > > the slave plug on the super ATA lead or as slave or master on my
> > secondary
> > > > IDE lead, the system usually recognises the drive in the BIOS setup,
> but
> > > the
> > > > computer merely starts with the Win XP logo for a minute or so and
> then
> > > goes
> > > > black for the duration. The computer can't then be turned off with
the
> > > front
> > > > switch. The folks who sold me the system can't figure out what the
> > problem
> > > > is, they say it should just work and add another drive (letter) to
the
> > > > system. The two small drives are a Fujitsu (4GB) and a Seagate
(2.1GB)
> > > >
> > > > Anyone with any suggestions please?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > They sound like pretty old drives. are you sure that they are fully
ATA
> > > compatible???
> > >
> > > I would not put them on the RAID IDE controller. I would use a 40 wire
> > cable
> > > to the old drives, rather than an 80, and I would not use cable select
> but
> > > set them to master and slave. As said elsewhere, if your boot disk is
on
> > the
> > > RAID controller set the BIOS to boot from SCSI, otherwise make the
boot
> > disk
> > > the master on the standard IDE primary controller and put the oldies
on
> > the
> > > secondary controller.
> > >
> > > I don't know exactly when all drives could be assumed to be fully ATA
> > > compatible, but certainly there were partly nonconforming drives on
sale
> > in
> > > the very late 90s.
> > > John
> >
> > Thanks John. What do you mean "ATA compatible"?
> > I thought the proper name for IDE was ATA.
> >
> > I've NOT got a RAID controller. I've got an 80 wire cable (ultra ATA) on
> the
> > primary IDE and a 40 on the secondary.
> > I've tried both old drives (97 and 98) on both cables in various jumper
> > settings. I'm going to use a more modern drive in my old Win 95 box to
> > transfer the data to, so that this will hopefully be accepted in my
WinXP
> > box.
>
> Hi Moosh,
> The IDE spec was around for a while before drive makers could decide on a
> common interface. Slower CDROM drives could be a real problem and needed
> special drivers, but even hard disks could be a problem if you mixed and
> matched different brands. As I said, some not quite compatible drives were
> still around in the late 90s. The test is to mount them separately. They
> always worked fine as long as they were the only drive (master) on the
> controller cable.

Thanks John. I just pulled a late 1999 3.2GB drive from an old computer I
just inherited. (last week I owned two, now I own seven of the buggers
It happens to be a Samsung of the same ilk as my new 40GB drive. I am
rebuilding it in my old box and when I've deleted everything off the new
rebuild except the bare OS, I will introduce my old drives to the box one at
a time, and transfer the data I want to a separate folder on the 3.2GB
drive. I will then plug it into my new box and see if it will play nice

> Sorry, about the misunderstanding. Someone else was talking RAID and I got
> confused. I see someone has recomended you check the drives in the
> Administrative Tools > Computer Management area. They should show up
there.
> If not, then you have a tricky problem. If it is a compatibility problem
> perhaps XP cannot cope.

I will check. I can't explain the intermittent appearance of one of the
drives yesterday. I just hope the data is not corrupted.

Thanks again. Moosh

What you could try is leave the small hdd`s in the PC and use a usb file
transfer cable,transfer the data you want .Add new harder to your XP
computer,then that way you will still have plenty of h/w left over to put
together a spare or spare`s computer.

Here you will find info about a usb file transfer cable
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...d19wcm9kdWN0X2
92ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=39504


It will serve you well if you need it

I hope this help you out its another way of approaching your conflict

Regards,

KNOBBER
"Moosh" <> wrote in message
news:frRKa.408$...
>
> "John" <> wrote in message
> news:3efbde68$...
> >
> > "Moosh" <> wrote in message
> > news:ZkNKa.209$...
> > >
> > > "John" <> wrote in message
> > > news:3efb0166$...
> > > >
> > > > "Moosh" <> wrote in message
> > > > news:Gx9Ka.495$...
> > > > > Hi folks, I just bought a new cheapy system with an 8RDA+
mainboard
> > with
> > > a
> > > > > Athlon 2000+ on it.
> > > > >
> > > > > It has a 40 GB Samsung hard drive as master on the primary IDE
super
> > ATA
> > > > > lead. The whole system works fine with Windows XP. Much too fast
for
> > me
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > When I attach either of my two old "data rich" small hard drives
to
> > > either
> > > > > the slave plug on the super ATA lead or as slave or master on my
> > > secondary
> > > > > IDE lead, the system usually recognises the drive in the BIOS
setup,
> > but
> > > > the
> > > > > computer merely starts with the Win XP logo for a minute or so and
> > then
> > > > goes
> > > > > black for the duration. The computer can't then be turned off with
> the
> > > > front
> > > > > switch. The folks who sold me the system can't figure out what the
> > > problem
> > > > > is, they say it should just work and add another drive (letter) to
> the
> > > > > system. The two small drives are a Fujitsu (4GB) and a Seagate
> (2.1GB)
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone with any suggestions please?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > They sound like pretty old drives. are you sure that they are fully
> ATA
> > > > compatible???
> > > >
> > > > I would not put them on the RAID IDE controller. I would use a 40
wire
> > > cable
> > > > to the old drives, rather than an 80, and I would not use cable
select
> > but
> > > > set them to master and slave. As said elsewhere, if your boot disk
is
> on
> > > the
> > > > RAID controller set the BIOS to boot from SCSI, otherwise make the
> boot
> > > disk
> > > > the master on the standard IDE primary controller and put the oldies
> on
> > > the
> > > > secondary controller.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know exactly when all drives could be assumed to be fully
ATA
> > > > compatible, but certainly there were partly nonconforming drives on
> sale
> > > in
> > > > the very late 90s.
> > > > John
> > >
> > > Thanks John. What do you mean "ATA compatible"?
> > > I thought the proper name for IDE was ATA.
> > >
> > > I've NOT got a RAID controller. I've got an 80 wire cable (ultra ATA)
on
> > the
> > > primary IDE and a 40 on the secondary.
> > > I've tried both old drives (97 and 98) on both cables in various
jumper
> > > settings. I'm going to use a more modern drive in my old Win 95 box to
> > > transfer the data to, so that this will hopefully be accepted in my
> WinXP
> > > box.
> >
> > Hi Moosh,
> > The IDE spec was around for a while before drive makers could decide on
a
> > common interface. Slower CDROM drives could be a real problem and needed
> > special drivers, but even hard disks could be a problem if you mixed and
> > matched different brands. As I said, some not quite compatible drives
were
> > still around in the late 90s. The test is to mount them separately. They
> > always worked fine as long as they were the only drive (master) on the
> > controller cable.
>
> Thanks John. I just pulled a late 1999 3.2GB drive from an old computer I
> just inherited. (last week I owned two, now I own seven of the buggers
> It happens to be a Samsung of the same ilk as my new 40GB drive. I am
> rebuilding it in my old box and when I've deleted everything off the new
> rebuild except the bare OS, I will introduce my old drives to the box one
at
> a time, and transfer the data I want to a separate folder on the 3.2GB
> drive. I will then plug it into my new box and see if it will play nice

>
> > Sorry, about the misunderstanding. Someone else was talking RAID and I
got
> > confused. I see someone has recomended you check the drives in the
> > Administrative Tools > Computer Management area. They should show up
> there.
> > If not, then you have a tricky problem. If it is a compatibility problem
> > perhaps XP cannot cope.
>
> I will check. I can't explain the intermittent appearance of one of the
> drives yesterday. I just hope the data is not corrupted.
>
> Thanks again. Moosh
>
>

"KNOBBER" <> wrote in message
news:_UTKa.62$...
> What you could try is leave the small hdd`s in the PC and use a usb file
> transfer cable,transfer the data you want .Add new harder to your XP
> computer,then that way you will still have plenty of h/w left over to put
> together a spare or spare`s computer.
>
> Here you will find info about a usb file transfer cable
>
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...d19wcm9kdWN0X2
> 92ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=39504
>
>
> It will serve you well if you need it
>
> I hope this help you out its another way of approaching your conflict


Thanks Knobber. Good suggestion. I will save the site for later use.
Unfortunately, although I have SIX (6) USB2 outlets on my new box, there's
not another one in the house. What I might do, if my present strategy
doesn't work, (and so far so good, I've transferred much of my data to my
3.2 GB drive that hopefully will play with its Samsung stablemate in my new
box), is to get the crowbar to the pocket book and splash for a USB card for
another of my boxes. It won't go to waste.


> KNOBBER
> "Moosh" <> wrote in message
> news:frRKa.408$...
> >
> > "John" <> wrote in message
> > news:3efbde68$...
> > >
> > > "Moosh" <> wrote in message
> > > news:ZkNKa.209$...
> > > >
> > > > "John" <> wrote in message
> > > > news:3efb0166$...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Moosh" <> wrote in message
> > > > > news:Gx9Ka.495$...
> > > > > > Hi folks, I just bought a new cheapy system with an 8RDA+
> mainboard
> > > with
> > > > a
> > > > > > Athlon 2000+ on it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It has a 40 GB Samsung hard drive as master on the primary IDE
> super
> > > ATA
> > > > > > lead. The whole system works fine with Windows XP. Much too fast
> for
> > > me
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I attach either of my two old "data rich" small hard drives
> to
> > > > either
> > > > > > the slave plug on the super ATA lead or as slave or master on my
> > > > secondary
> > > > > > IDE lead, the system usually recognises the drive in the BIOS
> setup,
> > > but
> > > > > the
> > > > > > computer merely starts with the Win XP logo for a minute or so
and
> > > then
> > > > > goes
> > > > > > black for the duration. The computer can't then be turned off
with
> > the
> > > > > front
> > > > > > switch. The folks who sold me the system can't figure out what
the
> > > > problem
> > > > > > is, they say it should just work and add another drive (letter)
to
> > the
> > > > > > system. The two small drives are a Fujitsu (4GB) and a Seagate
> > (2.1GB)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone with any suggestions please?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > They sound like pretty old drives. are you sure that they are
fully
> > ATA
> > > > > compatible???
> > > > >
> > > > > I would not put them on the RAID IDE controller. I would use a 40
> wire
> > > > cable
> > > > > to the old drives, rather than an 80, and I would not use cable
> select
> > > but
> > > > > set them to master and slave. As said elsewhere, if your boot disk
> is
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > RAID controller set the BIOS to boot from SCSI, otherwise make the
> > boot
> > > > disk
> > > > > the master on the standard IDE primary controller and put the
oldies
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > secondary controller.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know exactly when all drives could be assumed to be fully
> ATA
> > > > > compatible, but certainly there were partly nonconforming drives
on
> > sale
> > > > in
> > > > > the very late 90s.
> > > > > John
> > > >
> > > > Thanks John. What do you mean "ATA compatible"?
> > > > I thought the proper name for IDE was ATA.
> > > >
> > > > I've NOT got a RAID controller. I've got an 80 wire cable (ultra
ATA)
> on
> > > the
> > > > primary IDE and a 40 on the secondary.
> > > > I've tried both old drives (97 and 98) on both cables in various
> jumper
> > > > settings. I'm going to use a more modern drive in my old Win 95 box
to
> > > > transfer the data to, so that this will hopefully be accepted in my
> > WinXP
> > > > box.
> > >
> > > Hi Moosh,
> > > The IDE spec was around for a while before drive makers could decide
on
> a
> > > common interface. Slower CDROM drives could be a real problem and
needed
> > > special drivers, but even hard disks could be a problem if you mixed
and
> > > matched different brands. As I said, some not quite compatible drives
> were
> > > still around in the late 90s. The test is to mount them separately.
They
> > > always worked fine as long as they were the only drive (master) on the
> > > controller cable.
> >
> > Thanks John. I just pulled a late 1999 3.2GB drive from an old computer
I
> > just inherited. (last week I owned two, now I own seven of the buggers

> > It happens to be a Samsung of the same ilk as my new 40GB drive. I am
> > rebuilding it in my old box and when I've deleted everything off the new
> > rebuild except the bare OS, I will introduce my old drives to the box
one
> at
> > a time, and transfer the data I want to a separate folder on the 3.2GB
> > drive. I will then plug it into my new box and see if it will play nice
>
> >
> > > Sorry, about the misunderstanding. Someone else was talking RAID and I
> got
> > > confused. I see someone has recomended you check the drives in the
> > > Administrative Tools > Computer Management area. They should show up
> > there.
> > > If not, then you have a tricky problem. If it is a compatibility
problem
> > > perhaps XP cannot cope.
> >
> > I will check. I can't explain the intermittent appearance of one of the
> > drives yesterday. I just hope the data is not corrupted.
> >
> > Thanks again. Moosh
> >
> >
>
>

"Moosh" <> wrote in message
news:xXUKa.651$...
>
> "KNOBBER" <> wrote in message
> news:_UTKa.62$...
> > What you could try is leave the small hdd`s in the PC and use a usb file
> > transfer cable,transfer the data you want .Add new harder to your XP
> > computer,then that way you will still have plenty of h/w left over to
put
> > together a spare or spare`s computer.
> >
> > Here you will find info about a usb file transfer cable
> >
>
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...d19wcm9kdWN0X2
> > 92ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=39504
> >
> >
> > It will serve you well if you need it
> >
> > I hope this help you out its another way of approaching your conflict
>
>
> Thanks Knobber. Good suggestion. I will save the site for later use.
> Unfortunately, although I have SIX (6) USB2 outlets on my new box, there's
> not another one in the house. What I might do, if my present strategy
> doesn't work, (and so far so good, I've transferred much of my data to my
> 3.2 GB drive that hopefully will play with its Samsung stablemate in my
new
> box), is to get the crowbar to the pocket book and splash for a USB card
for
> another of my boxes. It won't go to waste.

Eureeka!!

I've had success. It appears that Samsung hard drives won't play nice with
other brands in the environment of my 8RDA+ board.
The trick is to get another Samsung drive to accept the data from foreign
drives in the environment of another (?older) main board and then when you
hook the two Samsungs on the same IDE lead in the new box, Voila! Works
like a bought one! Thanks everyone for all the help and suggestions.
Your support is invaluable.

"Graham W" <> wrote in message
news:IIiLa.44270$...
> Moosh <> uttered something about:
>
> [Moosh was having problems getting his 'small' 'data rich' HDDs
> seen by the new 8RDA+ system in any combination which included
> his new, 40GB Samsung system drive.]
> >
> > Eureeka!!
> >
> > I've had success. It appears that Samsung hard drives won't play nice
> > with other brands in the environment of my 8RDA+ board.
> > The trick is to get another Samsung drive to accept the data from
> > foreign drives in the environment of another (?older) main board and
> > then when you hook the two Samsungs on the same IDE lead in the new
> > box, Voila! Works like a bought one! Thanks everyone for all
> > the help and suggestions. Your support is invaluable.
>
> Perhaps you'd like to say which models the three drives were? Then
> it'll show up in the archives (Google) when someone searches by
> part number.
>
> Well done on solving it!

Thanks.

The 40GB is a Samsung SV4012H

The 3.2GB is a Samsung SV0322A

The 4GB is a Fujitsu MP83043AT (data rich)

The 2.1GB is a Seagate ST32120A (data rich)

I've finally transferred all the data from the Fujitsu and Seagate to the
small Samsung in my old Acer 200MHz box (no problems except that the
different hard drives often don't make it clear which end is which with the
jumper pins -- Seagate gets full marks for showing a diagram of the power
pins alongside -- I eventually had to refer to Scott Mueller, my Guru
And then I got my new 8DRA+ /Athlon 2000+ to see the smaller Samsung drive
and transferred the contained data to the 40GB Samsung drive.
The transfer in the new box was not without problems. The computer does not
run well with the small Samsung attached, and when trying to transfer from
this, there were several "hang" problems, and it baulked at transferring
large folders. I overcame this by transferring smaller chunks at a time.
Someone suggested droping the nVidia IDE drivers in favour of generic
drivers, and if I hadn't eventually succeeded in my task, I would have tried
this, as it seems to explain all my problems.

I may even do this, as I'm now having difficulty putting a new floppy drive
into this new box. I am using a lead from "the back room of the computer
shop" and as the drive light stays on permanently, Scott suspects the lead.
I will test the lead (and the drive), and if it works in another box, I will
look at drivers.

"Graham W" <> wrote in message
news:RNALa.45266$...
> Muush <> uttered something about:
>
> > "Graham W" <> wrote in message
> > news:IIiLa.44270$...
> >> Moosh <> uttered something about:
> >>
> >> [Moosh was having problems getting his 'small' 'data rich' HDDs
> >> seen by the new 8RDA+ system in any combination which included
> >> his new, 40GB Samsung system drive.]
> >>>
> >>> Eureeka!!
> >>>
> >>> I've had success. It appears that Samsung hard drives won't play
> >>> nice with other brands in the environment of my 8RDA+ board.
> >>> The trick is to get another Samsung drive to accept the data from
> >>> foreign drives in the environment of another (?older) main board and
> >>> then when you hook the two Samsungs on the same IDE lead in the new
> >>> box, Voila! Works like a bought one! Thanks everyone for all
> >>> the help and suggestions. Your support is invaluable.
> >>
> >> Perhaps you'd like to say which models the three drives were? Then
> >> it'll show up in the archives (Google) when someone searches by
> >> part number.
> >>
> >> Well done on solving it!
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > The 40GB is a Samsung SV4012H
> >
> > The 3.2GB is a Samsung SV0322A
> >
> > The 4GB is a Fujitsu MP83043AT (data rich)
> >
> > The 2.1GB is a Seagate ST32120A (data rich)
> >
> > <...> The computer does not run well with the small
> > Samsung attached, and when trying to transfer from this, there were
> > several "hang" problems, and it baulked at transferring large
> > folders. I overcame this by transferring smaller chunks at a time.
> > Someone suggested droping the nVidia IDE drivers in favour of generic
> > drivers, and if I hadn't eventually succeeded in my task, I would
> > have tried this, as it seems to explain all my problems.
> >
> > I may even do this, as I'm now having difficulty putting a new floppy
> > drive into this new box. I am using a lead from "the back room of the
> > computer shop" and as the drive light stays on permanently, Scott
> > suspects the lead. I will test the lead (and the drive), and if it
> > works in another box, I will look at drivers.
>
> The only thing wrong with the floppy lead is that you've plugged it on
> upside down!
>
> HTH


Nope. I checked that with much paranoia

If it were me I would address the following,

Try a new floppy lead.

Make sure everything is set up for the floppy in the bios.

Try a different floppy.

Maybe the floppy port on the motherboard has had it.

I hope this will resolve your problem if you have not already done so.


KNOBBER
"Muush" <> wrote in message
news:FkRLa.47$...
>
> "Graham W" <> wrote in message
> news:RNALa.45266$...
> > Muush <> uttered something about:
> >
> > > "Graham W" <> wrote in message
> > > news:IIiLa.44270$...
> > >> Moosh <> uttered something about:
> > >>
> > >> [Moosh was having problems getting his 'small' 'data rich' HDDs
> > >> seen by the new 8RDA+ system in any combination which included
> > >> his new, 40GB Samsung system drive.]
> > >>>
> > >>> Eureeka!!
> > >>>
> > >>> I've had success. It appears that Samsung hard drives won't play
> > >>> nice with other brands in the environment of my 8RDA+ board.
> > >>> The trick is to get another Samsung drive to accept the data from
> > >>> foreign drives in the environment of another (?older) main board and
> > >>> then when you hook the two Samsungs on the same IDE lead in the new
> > >>> box, Voila! Works like a bought one! Thanks everyone for all
> > >>> the help and suggestions. Your support is invaluable.
> > >>
> > >> Perhaps you'd like to say which models the three drives were? Then
> > >> it'll show up in the archives (Google) when someone searches by
> > >> part number.
> > >>
> > >> Well done on solving it!
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > The 40GB is a Samsung SV4012H
> > >
> > > The 3.2GB is a Samsung SV0322A
> > >
> > > The 4GB is a Fujitsu MP83043AT (data rich)
> > >
> > > The 2.1GB is a Seagate ST32120A (data rich)
> > >
> > > <...> The computer does not run well with the small
> > > Samsung attached, and when trying to transfer from this, there were
> > > several "hang" problems, and it baulked at transferring large
> > > folders. I overcame this by transferring smaller chunks at a time.
> > > Someone suggested droping the nVidia IDE drivers in favour of generic
> > > drivers, and if I hadn't eventually succeeded in my task, I would
> > > have tried this, as it seems to explain all my problems.
> > >
> > > I may even do this, as I'm now having difficulty putting a new floppy
> > > drive into this new box. I am using a lead from "the back room of the
> > > computer shop" and as the drive light stays on permanently, Scott
> > > suspects the lead. I will test the lead (and the drive), and if it
> > > works in another box, I will look at drivers.
> >
> > The only thing wrong with the floppy lead is that you've plugged it on
> > upside down!
> >
> > HTH
>
>
> Nope. I checked that with much paranoia
>
>