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Old 06-26-2003, 04:51 PM
 
Leo Tick


I have a 503+ (of recent vintage) which has been running on c CYrix at
about 250. I swaped it for a amdk6-2 but I cant get the system to run at
any speed higher than 95 x 3 1/2. Now let me say what I mean by not
running. For now it means not being able to boot w98. It starts gets
partway through the early stage(the wavy line on the bottom) and then
stalls.
It a scsi system with a DPT controller some 5 years old. Now my question
is what components are likly to be effected by an increase in the
multplier. The cache? the pci bus , the scsi controller. Suggestions
as to what might be the failing component and how to test would be much
appreciated--or does W98 need a reinstallation.

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Old 06-27-2003, 12:39 AM
 
Jake
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http://www.villagegeek.com/techsupport/Drivers.htm
try amdupd
Leo Tick wrote:

> I have a 503+ (of recent vintage) which has been running on c CYrix at
> about 250. I swaped it for a amdk6-2 but I cant get the system to run at
> any speed higher than 95 x 3 1/2. Now let me say what I mean by not
> running. For now it means not being able to boot w98. It starts gets
> partway through the early stage(the wavy line on the bottom) and then
> stalls.
> It a scsi system with a DPT controller some 5 years old. Now my question
> is what components are likly to be effected by an increase in the
> multplier. The cache? the pci bus , the scsi controller. Suggestions
> as to what might be the failing component and how to test would be much
> appreciated--or does W98 need a reinstallation.


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Old 06-27-2003, 12:13 PM
 
Leo Tick
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Jake wrote:
> http://www.villagegeek.com/techsupport/Drivers.htm
> try amdupd

Thanks --but That's a win95 patch and I do know about that

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Old 06-27-2003, 12:42 PM
 
Leo Tick
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I am not sure I undrstand what that means about the agp speed (which is
66). The memory is sdram pc-100 and the settings for memory as per the
manual (unless that's in error) But The failure occurs when I change the
multiplier.. I dont believe this has anything to do with memory (or does
it) Where is this AGP thig described- We are not using an agp card

Robert Akins wrote:
> When you replaced the CPU did you set the memory to run at FSB speed or AGP?
> Is the memory PC66 or PC100?
> Robert
> "Leo Tick" <> wrote in message
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>
>>I have a 503+ (of recent vintage) which has been running on c CYrix at
>>about 250. I swaped it for a amdk6-2 but I cant get the system to run at
>>any speed higher than 95 x 3 1/2. Now let me say what I mean by not
>>running. For now it means not being able to boot w98. It starts gets
>>partway through the early stage(the wavy line on the bottom) and then
>>stalls.
>>It a scsi system with a DPT controller some 5 years old. Now my question
>>is what components are likly to be effected by an increase in the
>>multplier. The cache? the pci bus , the scsi controller. Suggestions
>>as to what might be the failing component and how to test would be much
>>appreciated--or does W98 need a reinstallation.
>>

>
>
>


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Old 06-27-2003, 03:05 PM
 
Leo Tick
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I made that eror before but this time no . It's not that is slow but
the it stalls My intuition goes to the controller. Is this reasonable


Kevin D wrote:
> Did you change the SRAM jumper from Linear Burst (2-3) to Intel
> Burst (1-2), and Disable the Linear Burst in the BIOS? If not, you'll
> get memory access errors that will really slow down the system.
> Kevin
>
> Leo Tick wrote:
>
>> I have a 503+ (of recent vintage) which has been running on c CYrix at
>> about 250. I swaped it for a amdk6-2 but I cant get the system to run
>> at any speed higher than 95 x 3 1/2. Now let me say what I mean by not
>> running. For now it means not being able to boot w98. It starts gets
>> partway through the early stage(the wavy line on the bottom) and then
>> stalls.
>> It a scsi system with a DPT controller some 5 years old. Now my question
>> is what components are likly to be effected by an increase in the
>> multplier. The cache? the pci bus , the scsi controller. Suggestions
>> as to what might be the failing component and how to test would be
>> much appreciated--or does W98 need a reinstallation.
>>

>


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Old 06-27-2003, 05:29 PM
 
Kyle Brant
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1. what exact k62 cpu model are you using? some k62 CPUs were 95 MHz
fsb rated.
2. to check your memory subsystem out for proper operation get
memtest86 at www.memtest86.com ; the d/l will create a boot test
floppy for memory testing
3. I had problems with my 503+ and cheap quality memory, had to buy
"good stuff" from Crucial to get rid of the problems. One way to test
this is to run the memory at 66 MHz and the cpu fsb at 100 mhz.


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Kyle
tired of spam, no email address
"Leo Tick" <> wrote in message
news:KDEKa.151$...
| I have a 503+ (of recent vintage) which has been running on c CYrix
at
| about 250. I swaped it for a amdk6-2 but I cant get the system to
run at
| any speed higher than 95 x 3 1/2. Now let me say what I mean by not
| running. For now it means not being able to boot w98. It starts gets
| partway through the early stage(the wavy line on the bottom) and
then
| stalls.
| It a scsi system with a DPT controller some 5 years old. Now my
question
| is what components are likly to be effected by an increase in the
| multplier. The cache? the pci bus , the scsi controller. Suggestions
| as to what might be the failing component and how to test would be
much
| appreciated--or does W98 need a reinstallation.
|

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Old 06-28-2003, 12:27 PM
 
Leo Tick
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Kyle Brant wrote:
> 1. what exact k62 cpu model are you using? some k62 CPUs were 95 MHz
> fsb rated.
> 2. to check your memory subsystem out for proper operation get
> memtest86 at www.memtest86.com ; the d/l will create a boot test
> floppy for memory testing
> 3. I had problems with my 503+ and cheap quality memory, had to buy
> "good stuff" from Crucial to get rid of the problems. One way to test
> this is to run the memory at 66 MHz and the cpu fsb at 100 mhz.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Kyle
>
>

1. I am using 95 fsb which is ok with me. I believe that when I used
this chip on my 2013 it would not work with 100. I don't see but that
may be only my ignorance, why memory should be effected by the multiplier
my weak logic says the fsb is the controlling memory speed. Is that no
so.
2. The memory is already crucial. Will try the test (my cycle time for
fooling with this machine is about a week) It is a collegue's who lives
some distance)

3. Would appreciate any comments about disk controller and cpu speed on
the 503+
Thank for the suggestions .

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Old 06-28-2003, 04:28 PM
 
Kyle Brant
Default Re: k6-2 on a 503+

Heh, well, ya tapped me out on the other suggestions, no idea about
that disk controller, except that the fsb will have no effect upon
it's bus interface to the cpu (except that 95 MHz fsb will give you a
PCI bus speed of 31.6 MHz which is very much within spec). You have
already identified why the CPU does not work at 100 MHz fsb.

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Kyle
tired of spam, no email address
"Leo Tick" <> wrote in message
news:GYeLa.174$...
| Kyle Brant wrote:
| > 1. what exact k62 cpu model are you using? some k62 CPUs were 95
MHz
| > fsb rated.
| > 2. to check your memory subsystem out for proper operation get
| > memtest86 at www.memtest86.com ; the d/l will create a boot test
| > floppy for memory testing
| > 3. I had problems with my 503+ and cheap quality memory, had to
buy
| > "good stuff" from Crucial to get rid of the problems. One way to
test
| > this is to run the memory at 66 MHz and the cpu fsb at 100 mhz.
| >
| >
| > --
| > Best regards,
| > Kyle
| >
| >
| 1. I am using 95 fsb which is ok with me. I believe that when I used
| this chip on my 2013 it would not work with 100. I don't see but
that
| may be only my ignorance, why memory should be effected by the
multiplier
| my weak logic says the fsb is the controlling memory speed. Is that
no
| so.
| 2. The memory is already crucial. Will try the test (my cycle time
for
| fooling with this machine is about a week) It is a collegue's who
lives
| some distance)
|
| 3. Would appreciate any comments about disk controller and cpu speed
on
| the 503+
| Thank for the suggestions .
|

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