Heat Issues with SN85G4

Discussion in 'Shuttle' started by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Netman_=AE?=, Dec 9, 2004.

  1. I've just sat and watched the CPU temp hit 102deg within two minutes of
    bootup, no wonder the box shut itself down during WinXP setup!! What
    temp should it be running at? I've still got the top off at the moment
    and sys temp is sitting at 30deg.

    This one has been a bit of a problem build for me. It's my sixth Shuttle
    build and the only one I've ever had a single problem with. The CPU in
    use is a 3.2 Athlon64.

    What's the deal with thermal paste application on the 64s? I think my
    initial bootup failures were due to too much, as I skimmed the processor
    applied more sparingly and re-fitted everything again and it booted up
    no problem. Could the problem now be too little?!

    Thanks for any help.
    Steve

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    =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Netman_=AE?=, Dec 9, 2004
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    Evert Meulie Guest

    102 degrees Celcius? Wow... Yeah, that is quite a bit, even for an
    Athlon... ;)
    And as to how to apply the paste... RTFM... ;)
    (it's pretty clear in the Shuttle manual.)

    http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm also contains
    usable info.

    Regards,
    Evert



    Netman ® wrote:
    > I've just sat and watched the CPU temp hit 102deg within two minutes of
    > bootup, no wonder the box shut itself down during WinXP setup!! What
    > temp should it be running at? I've still got the top off at the moment
    > and sys temp is sitting at 30deg.
    >
    > This one has been a bit of a problem build for me. It's my sixth Shuttle
    > build and the only one I've ever had a single problem with. The CPU in
    > use is a 3.2 Athlon64.
    >
    > What's the deal with thermal paste application on the 64s? I think my
    > initial bootup failures were due to too much, as I skimmed the processor
    > applied more sparingly and re-fitted everything again and it booted up
    > no problem. Could the problem now be too little?!
    >
    > Thanks for any help.
    > Steve
    >
    > [email: REMOVE THE SPAMTRAP]
     
    Evert Meulie, Dec 10, 2004
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  3. > Netman ® wrote:
    >
    >> I've just sat and watched the CPU temp hit 102deg within two minutes
    >> of bootup, no wonder the box shut itself down during WinXP setup!!
    >> What temp should it be running at? I've still got the top off at the
    >> moment and sys temp is sitting at 30deg.
    >>
    >> This one has been a bit of a problem build for me. It's my sixth
    >> Shuttle build and the only one I've ever had a single problem with.
    >> The CPU in use is a 3.2 Athlon64.
    >>
    >> What's the deal with thermal paste application on the 64s? I think my
    >> initial bootup failures were due to too much, as I skimmed the
    >> processor applied more sparingly and re-fitted everything again and it
    >> booted up no problem. Could the problem now be too little?!
    >>
    >> Thanks for any help.
    >> Steve
    >>
    >> [email: REMOVE THE SPAMTRAP]

    Evert Meulie wrote:

    > 102 degrees Celcius? Wow... Yeah, that is quite a bit, even for an
    > Athlon... ;)
    > And as to how to apply the paste... RTFM... ;)
    > (it's pretty clear in the Shuttle manual.)
    >
    > http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm also contains
    > usable info.
    >
    > Regards,
    > Evert


    Yeah, well the manual was of no use at all - following that resulted in
    the Shuttle not starting! As I have a few Shuttle builds under my belt
    and am capable of applying paste properly to countless other systems, I
    thought something else may be at fault :)

    Steve
     
    =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Netman_=AE?=, Dec 13, 2004
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    Christo Guest

    "Netman ®" <> wrote in message
    news:41b8b7b0$0$9333$...
    > I've just sat and watched the CPU temp hit 102deg within two minutes of
    > bootup, no wonder the box shut itself down during WinXP setup!! What temp
    > should it be running at? I've still got the top off at the moment and sys
    > temp is sitting at 30deg.
    >
    > This one has been a bit of a problem build for me. It's my sixth Shuttle
    > build and the only one I've ever had a single problem with. The CPU in use
    > is a 3.2 Athlon64.
    >
    > What's the deal with thermal paste application on the 64s? I think my
    > initial bootup failures were due to too much, as I skimmed the processor
    > applied more sparingly and re-fitted everything again and it booted up no
    > problem. Could the problem now be too little?!
    >
    > Thanks for any help.
    > Steve
    >
    > [email: REMOVE THE SPAMTRAP]


    normal Athlon 64 temp in a normal system should probs be about 45 C - 50 C
    you can get it lower with the right heatsink, 35 C etc

    silly i know but little things make a dif, check the fan is spinning... lol

    as for the thermal paste, just a very thin layer, it probably isnt the
    problem though

    maybe the processor is DoA, or maybe even the board is bust, one other thing
    might be the power supply, i am no shuttle expert pro but i know they dont
    come with very high rated PSU's (220w - 350w) i would say you will need a
    very good quality 350w at least to run A64, be safer with 400w

    not sure about the temp though, how are you monitoring it? a panel with
    display and thermal sensor or through BIOS?
     
    Christo, Dec 14, 2004
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  5. =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Netman_=AE?=

    Jonathan Guest

    "Christo" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > "Netman ®" <> wrote in message
    > news:41b8b7b0$0$9333$...
    > > I've just sat and watched the CPU temp hit 102deg within two minutes of
    > > bootup, no wonder the box shut itself down during WinXP setup!! What

    temp
    > > should it be running at? I've still got the top off at the moment and

    sys
    > > temp is sitting at 30deg.
    > >
    > > This one has been a bit of a problem build for me. It's my sixth Shuttle
    > > build and the only one I've ever had a single problem with. The CPU in

    use
    > > is a 3.2 Athlon64.
    > >
    > > What's the deal with thermal paste application on the 64s? I think my
    > > initial bootup failures were due to too much, as I skimmed the processor
    > > applied more sparingly and re-fitted everything again and it booted up

    no
    > > problem. Could the problem now be too little?!
    > >
    > > Thanks for any help.
    > > Steve
    > >
    > > [email: REMOVE THE SPAMTRAP]

    >
    > normal Athlon 64 temp in a normal system should probs be about 45 C - 50 C
    > you can get it lower with the right heatsink, 35 C etc
    >
    > silly i know but little things make a dif, check the fan is spinning...

    lol
    >
    > as for the thermal paste, just a very thin layer, it probably isnt the
    > problem though
    >
    > maybe the processor is DoA, or maybe even the board is bust, one other

    thing
    > might be the power supply, i am no shuttle expert pro but i know they dont
    > come with very high rated PSU's (220w - 350w) i would say you will need a
    > very good quality 350w at least to run A64, be safer with 400w
    >
    > not sure about the temp though, how are you monitoring it? a panel with
    > display and thermal sensor or through BIOS?


    Actually, not silly about the fan... my SN85G4V2's ICE module fan just
    failed a few weeks ago; the machine is only 5 mos. old.
    I, too, have an A64 3200+.

    Maybe there's been a string of bad fans or something...

    -Jonathan
     
    Jonathan, Dec 15, 2004
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  6. =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Netman_=AE?=

    Christo Guest

    "Jonathan" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > "Christo" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >>
    >> "Netman ®" <> wrote in message
    >> news:41b8b7b0$0$9333$...
    >> > I've just sat and watched the CPU temp hit 102deg within two minutes of
    >> > bootup, no wonder the box shut itself down during WinXP setup!! What

    > temp
    >> > should it be running at? I've still got the top off at the moment and

    > sys
    >> > temp is sitting at 30deg.
    >> >
    >> > This one has been a bit of a problem build for me. It's my sixth
    >> > Shuttle
    >> > build and the only one I've ever had a single problem with. The CPU in

    > use
    >> > is a 3.2 Athlon64.
    >> >
    >> > What's the deal with thermal paste application on the 64s? I think my
    >> > initial bootup failures were due to too much, as I skimmed the
    >> > processor
    >> > applied more sparingly and re-fitted everything again and it booted up

    > no
    >> > problem. Could the problem now be too little?!
    >> >
    >> > Thanks for any help.
    >> > Steve
    >> >
    >> > [email: REMOVE THE SPAMTRAP]

    >>
    >> normal Athlon 64 temp in a normal system should probs be about 45 C - 50
    >> C
    >> you can get it lower with the right heatsink, 35 C etc
    >>
    >> silly i know but little things make a dif, check the fan is spinning...

    > lol
    >>
    >> as for the thermal paste, just a very thin layer, it probably isnt the
    >> problem though
    >>
    >> maybe the processor is DoA, or maybe even the board is bust, one other

    > thing
    >> might be the power supply, i am no shuttle expert pro but i know they
    >> dont
    >> come with very high rated PSU's (220w - 350w) i would say you will need a
    >> very good quality 350w at least to run A64, be safer with 400w
    >>
    >> not sure about the temp though, how are you monitoring it? a panel with
    >> display and thermal sensor or through BIOS?

    >
    > Actually, not silly about the fan... my SN85G4V2's ICE module fan just
    > failed a few weeks ago; the machine is only 5 mos. old.
    > I, too, have an A64 3200+.
    >
    > Maybe there's been a string of bad fans or something...
    >
    > -Jonathan
    >
    >


    i bet it got REAL hot when that happened, i wouldnt like to be you right
    now, A64's aren't cheap and if it was left for a long time... new processor
     
    Christo, Dec 17, 2004
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