Help needed on SATA dirve issue please

Discussion in 'Asus' started by Andy Rose, May 4, 2004.

  1. Andy Rose

    Andy Rose Guest

    Hello, I really need your help to get this running. I have a ASUS A7N8X-E
    Deluxe motherboard and would like to remove the old IDE 80 Gb drive.
    Instead, I'd like to install the Hitachi 160 Gb SATA drive I just bought.
    So far, so good. I removed the old hd and put the new one in. After
    connecting the cabels and power, I tried to boot the PC. The system said the
    was no valid Disk found - please check cable. (As far as I could tell,
    there's only one possible way to attach the SATA cable). So after a while, I
    put back the IDE drive, leaving the SATA one in place.
    Now, the SATA drive is ignored by the system, as if it weren' there. *sigh*
    I'm sick of spending my time without getting things to run.

    Any help is gladly accepted. Any information needed on your behalf is
    supplied upon request.

    Please have a heart. Btw: Is there any danger of using single SATA? Or is it
    much better than IDE?!?

    hmmm, *oh, dear*.......

    thanx - andy
     
    Andy Rose, May 4, 2004
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  2. Andy Rose

    John Guest

    On Tue, 4 May 2004 13:31:15 +0200, "Andy Rose" <>
    wrote:

    >Hello, I really need your help to get this running. I have a ASUS A7N8X-E
    >Deluxe motherboard and would like to remove the old IDE 80 Gb drive.
    >Instead, I'd like to install the Hitachi 160 Gb SATA drive I just bought.
    >So far, so good. I removed the old hd and put the new one in. After
    >connecting the cabels and power, I tried to boot the PC. The system said the
    >was no valid Disk found - please check cable. (As far as I could tell,
    >there's only one possible way to attach the SATA cable). So after a while, I
    >put back the IDE drive, leaving the SATA one in place.
    >Now, the SATA drive is ignored by the system, as if it weren' there. *sigh*
    >I'm sick of spending my time without getting things to run.
    >
    >Any help is gladly accepted. Any information needed on your behalf is
    >supplied upon request.
    >
    >Please have a heart. Btw: Is there any danger of using single SATA? Or is it
    >much better than IDE?!?
    >
    >hmmm, *oh, dear*.......
    >
    >thanx - andy
    >


    Sata is certainly worth using... single or otherwise.

    AFA the Sata drive not being detected, it may be worth setting the option under
    PNP in your bios settings to show you are using a PNP system.

    I have a ASUS K8V SE D/L board which would not show any connected Sata drives.

    However, the Sata drives would be detected if I changed the default NO setting
    to YES. This is under the PNP/IRQ settings in the bios.... usually the first
    option.

    I changed it to YES and all was okay.... very strange I know but it resolved my
    problem.... obviously a resource conflict of some sort.
    May not work for you but worth a try!

    Regards

    John
     
    John, May 4, 2004
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  3. Andy Rose

    Larry Guest

    "Andy Rose" <> wrote in message
    news:c77usd$2lk9$...
    > Hello, I really need your help to get this running. I have a ASUS A7N8X-E
    > Deluxe motherboard and would like to remove the old IDE 80 Gb drive.
    > Instead, I'd like to install the Hitachi 160 Gb SATA drive I just bought.
    > So far, so good. I removed the old hd and put the new one in. After
    > connecting the cabels and power, I tried to boot the PC. The system said

    the
    > was no valid Disk found - please check cable. (As far as I could tell,
    > there's only one possible way to attach the SATA cable). So after a while,

    I
    > put back the IDE drive, leaving the SATA one in place.
    > Now, the SATA drive is ignored by the system, as if it weren' there.

    *sigh*
    > I'm sick of spending my time without getting things to run.
    >
    > Any help is gladly accepted. Any information needed on your behalf is
    > supplied upon request.
    >
    > Please have a heart. Btw: Is there any danger of using single SATA? Or is

    it
    > much better than IDE?!?
    >
    > hmmm, *oh, dear*.......
    >
    > thanx - andy
    >
    >
    >

    Andy,

    First read your manual that came with your motherboard and you will see on
    page 2-21 and chapter 5 that you will have to install software drivers for
    your SATA controller.

    Larry
     
    Larry, May 4, 2004
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  4. Andy Rose

    Andy Rose Guest

    Thanx John,
    I'll look into it as soon as I'm home again. Thanx for now,
    Andy Rose




    "Andy Rose" <> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
    news:c77usd$2lk9$...
    > Hello, I really need your help to get this running. I have a ASUS A7N8X-E
    > Deluxe motherboard and would like to remove the old IDE 80 Gb drive.
    > Instead, I'd like to install the Hitachi 160 Gb SATA drive I just bought.
    > So far, so good. I removed the old hd and put the new one in. After
    > connecting the cabels and power, I tried to boot the PC. The system said

    the
    > was no valid Disk found - please check cable. (As far as I could tell,
    > there's only one possible way to attach the SATA cable). So after a while,

    I
    > put back the IDE drive, leaving the SATA one in place.
    > Now, the SATA drive is ignored by the system, as if it weren' there.

    *sigh*
    > I'm sick of spending my time without getting things to run.
    >
    > Any help is gladly accepted. Any information needed on your behalf is
    > supplied upon request.
    >
    > Please have a heart. Btw: Is there any danger of using single SATA? Or is

    it
    > much better than IDE?!?
    >
    > hmmm, *oh, dear*.......
    >
    > thanx - andy
    >
    >
     
    Andy Rose, May 4, 2004
    #4
  5. Andy Rose

    dino Guest

    in order to use the SATA drive as your boot drive..if you are using XP you
    need to reformat and load the drivers for it when prompted...also did you
    enable SATA on the M/B by moving the jumper to enable position?..I know the
    A7N8X-Deluxe has a jumper..not sure about the E model though
     
    dino, May 4, 2004
    #5
  6. Andy Rose

    Doug Ramage Guest

    "dino" <> wrote in message
    news:B7Mlc.31586$...
    > in order to use the SATA drive as your boot drive..if you are using XP you
    > need to reformat and load the drivers for it when prompted...also did you
    > enable SATA on the M/B by moving the jumper to enable position?..I know

    the
    > A7N8X-Deluxe has a jumper..not sure about the E model though
    >
    >


    An alternative is to load the drivers from your "old" drive via Device
    Manager, then clone the old drive to your new SATA drive, using a program
    like Ghost or Drive Image.

    Although a fresh install is the better option, I use the cloning method
    myself. In fact, I shall probably do it this afternoon, I have just
    received a new SATA drive.
    --
    Doug Ramage
     
    Doug Ramage, May 4, 2004
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  7. Andy Rose

    anon Guest

    Doesnt matter whether you clone or not. If you dont install the sata drivers
    it wont detect.
    If changing hd you will have to repair the o/s installation, using the F6
    option to load the sata drivers from floppy.
    Same applies for a clean install.

    "Doug Ramage" <> wrote in message
    news:c784or$n102$-berlin.de...
    >
    > "dino" <> wrote in message
    > news:B7Mlc.31586$...
    > > in order to use the SATA drive as your boot drive..if you are using XP

    you
    > > need to reformat and load the drivers for it when prompted...also did

    you
    > > enable SATA on the M/B by moving the jumper to enable position?..I know

    > the
    > > A7N8X-Deluxe has a jumper..not sure about the E model though
    > >
    > >

    >
    > An alternative is to load the drivers from your "old" drive via Device
    > Manager, then clone the old drive to your new SATA drive, using a program
    > like Ghost or Drive Image.
    >
    > Although a fresh install is the better option, I use the cloning method
    > myself. In fact, I shall probably do it this afternoon, I have just
    > received a new SATA drive.
    > --
    > Doug Ramage
    >
    >
     
    anon, May 4, 2004
    #7
  8. Andy Rose

    Andy Rose Guest

    help.

    Thank you very much for your responses so far. Sadly, it still isn't
    working.
    I've checked the jumper settings. SATA support is on by default. The drive
    is mouted in the bay and connected to power as well as to the onboard SATA
    connector.
    I've also checked the PNP settings, there is no Y or N setting. It's set to
    auto at the moment.
    I also have booted of the XP cd and tried to install. I don't know where to
    supply the drivers from. There is a SATA driver download on the net, but
    it's over 4 mb, so I don't think that's what I need.
    I also flashed the bios to 1.008 version, the newest offered on asuscom.de.
    Reading the manual, (which I did already once), didn't help me much. (???)

    So here's the situation :

    - Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe MoBo
    Bios ver. 1.008
    - Hitachi SATA HD 164 gb, bulk 'as it came'
    non formated
    - LiteOnDVD Burner on Sec. Slave IDE
    - Floppydisk
    - No OS installes
    - No other HD installed

    Please, how to get do I create a drivers disk - where to get the files. How
    do I install the single HD?

    I'm quite desperate about this, as I've spent over 4 nights on this matter
    and really need some sleep.
    (aaaargrgrhhhhh..... )


    best regards,

    Andy r.
     
    Andy Rose, May 4, 2004
    #8
  9. Andy Rose

    John Guest

    On Tue, 4 May 2004 19:29:41 +0200, "Andy Rose" <>
    wrote:

    >help.
    >
    >Thank you very much for your responses so far. Sadly, it still isn't
    >working.
    >I've checked the jumper settings. SATA support is on by default. The drive
    >is mouted in the bay and connected to power as well as to the onboard SATA
    >connector.
    >I've also checked the PNP settings, there is no Y or N setting. It's set to
    >auto at the moment.
    >I also have booted of the XP cd and tried to install. I don't know where to
    >supply the drivers from. There is a SATA driver download on the net, but
    >it's over 4 mb, so I don't think that's what I need.
    >I also flashed the bios to 1.008 version, the newest offered on asuscom.de.
    >Reading the manual, (which I did already once), didn't help me much. (???)
    >
    >So here's the situation :
    >
    >- Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe MoBo
    > Bios ver. 1.008
    >- Hitachi SATA HD 164 gb, bulk 'as it came'
    > non formated
    >- LiteOnDVD Burner on Sec. Slave IDE
    >- Floppydisk
    >- No OS installes
    >- No other HD installed
    >
    >Please, how to get do I create a drivers disk - where to get the files. How
    >do I install the single HD?
    >
    >I'm quite desperate about this, as I've spent over 4 nights on this matter
    >and really need some sleep.
    >(aaaargrgrhhhhh..... )
    >
    >
    >best regards,
    >
    >Andy r.
    >



    Andy... the drivers usually come on the support cd that comes with the
    motherboard.

    Its normally an executable file which creates a suitable driver floppy which can
    be inserted and read by XP by pressing F6 when prompted during the early
    installation of XP. No doubt they would be on the Asus site too somewhere.

    However, from what I gather from your first posting it sounds like the bios is
    throwing up a 'No Hard-drives Found message' if that is correct then no amount
    of drivers will help. The Sata drive MUST be recognised by the bios first!

    Both Ami and Award bioses both have the option to state whether you are using a
    PNP operating system, never known it to have an auto option, its usually Y or N.
    Its under the 'PCI/PNP' options. (unless your bios is completely different)
    If the bios is failing to see the Sata drive and your bios settings are correct
    and all else fails it may be worth lifting out all the cards except your
    graphics card just in case there's a clash somewhere.

    In my case... it was my Audigy-2 LS which was preventing my Sata from showing
    up, the Sata drive showed when I unplugged the sound card, even plugging into a
    different pci slot did'nt work for me. AIS changing that option in the bios
    fixed it for me... IME that setting usually doesn't seem to matter whether its
    set to yes or no normally... The joys of computers.. LOL

    1:
    Just to clarify again... is the system halting with a bios message saying it
    cannot find any hard-drives when first booting.?

    2:
    Or is it XP that cannot find the drives.?

    John
     
    John, May 4, 2004
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  10. Andy Rose

    Andy Rose Guest

    John, you seem to be my man. Stay with me now... ;))

    here goes:

    Nvidia boot agent:

    PXE-E61 Media test failiure, check cable
    PXE-MOF Exiting Nvidia boot agent
    Disk boot failure, insert sytemdisk and....


    that's the last I see.


    best regards,

    andy
     
    Andy Rose, May 4, 2004
    #10
  11. Andy Rose

    Andy Rose Guest

    Ok. As I said - you da man.

    I put the Wlan card in when i installed the hd. Now, after removing the wlan
    card, presto! At least now the SATA setup too is available.

    problem is the menu only offers raid or mirrored - i cant find a single
    drive entry. Any ideas?

    best regards,

    Andy
     
    Andy Rose, May 4, 2004
    #11
  12. Andy Rose

    Rivergoat Guest

    I just built a system on the A7N8X-E deluxe with Win2K, so perhaps
    it's a little different than the XP setup, but using F6 during the
    install I was easily able to load the SATA drivers (yes, they are on
    the ASUS support CD and I transferred those to a floppy via another
    machine) and continue the full OS install without a hitch.

    The jumpers have to enable SATA, the BIOS needs to tell which drive to
    boot to when done, and while SATA isn't a specific choice there are 2
    options I found. Enable "boot other device" and it will work, BUT if
    you have a secondary drive such as an IDE with an OS (MBR) installed
    the system kept trying to boot to that no matter what. However, enable
    SCSI as a boot drive (the SATA appears to be seen as SCSI) I boot just
    fine onto SATA and can even hang an IDE drive with a complete OS and
    not have it boot, just act as a slave drive that I can explore.

    This may be getting a bit beyond where you are, it seems you're having
    issues with SATA even being seen for the install, right? Follow other
    XP guru's advice, as I say I've done only a little with XP, but with
    2K it was pretty straight forward.
     
    Rivergoat, May 5, 2004
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  13. Andy Rose

    Doug Ramage Guest

    Indeed - but as already posted, I had already loaded the SATA drivers on my
    PATA drive before cloning it to SATA drive.
    --
    Doug Ramage

    "anon" <> wrote in message
    news:HqNlc.52$...
    > Doesnt matter whether you clone or not. If you dont install the sata

    drivers
    > it wont detect.
    > If changing hd you will have to repair the o/s installation, using the F6
    > option to load the sata drivers from floppy.
    > Same applies for a clean install.
    >
    > "Doug Ramage" <> wrote in message
    > news:c784or$n102$-berlin.de...
    > >
    > > "dino" <> wrote in message
    > > news:B7Mlc.31586$...
    > > > in order to use the SATA drive as your boot drive..if you are using XP

    > you
    > > > need to reformat and load the drivers for it when prompted...also did

    > you
    > > > enable SATA on the M/B by moving the jumper to enable position?..I

    know
    > > the
    > > > A7N8X-Deluxe has a jumper..not sure about the E model though
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > > An alternative is to load the drivers from your "old" drive via Device
    > > Manager, then clone the old drive to your new SATA drive, using a

    program
    > > like Ghost or Drive Image.
    > >
    > > Although a fresh install is the better option, I use the cloning method
    > > myself. In fact, I shall probably do it this afternoon, I have just
    > > received a new SATA drive.
    > > --
    > > Doug Ramage
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    Doug Ramage, May 5, 2004
    #13
  14. Andy Rose

    Andy Rose Guest

    Ok - all up and running. Here's the solution:

    - SATA setup was not available during bootup. After removing internal Wifi
    Card, setup was accessible via F4. Thanx to John for pointing out the
    possibility of a hardware conflict - that was the initial key.

    - Found a forum on the web where they tell you, how to create a driver disk
    for the WinXP installation. (I think I threw mine in the trash, as many
    others did b4 they bought a sata drive......).

    - Popped in the CD, slammed F6, waited for the boot to finish and supplied
    the disk when promoted. Presto! 164gb up and running. ......(Fast,
    too.)

    Thanx to all of you, for all the help supplied. Wouldn't have made it
    without you.
     
    Andy Rose, May 5, 2004
    #14
  15. Andy Rose

    Ken Maltby Guest

    "Andy Rose" <> wrote in message
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    > Ok. As I said - you da man.
    >
    > I put the Wlan card in when i installed the hd. Now, after removing the

    wlan
    > card, presto! At least now the SATA setup too is available.
    >
    > problem is the menu only offers raid or mirrored - i cant find a single
    > drive entry. Any ideas?
    >
    > best regards,
    >
    > Andy
    >


    The only single drive option that I remember is for a "low level
    format". You needed the driver loaded, but you can just ignore
    the Raid options. I have two 10,000RPM WD Raptors one is
    smaller than the other and I don't use and Raid functions. Once
    the driver is installed, the end of the boot (before you go the
    Windows loading part) you should see your SATA drive(s) listed.

    Of course you will still have to set an active partition and format
    the drive(s).

    Luck;
    Ken
     
    Ken Maltby, May 6, 2004
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