IBM thought Ken Kutaragi was OUT OF HIS MIND wanting PS3-Cell to be 1,000 times PS2 Emotion Engine p

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    "Kutaragi, known for the bold stroke and the grand vision, swung for the
    fences from the get-go. "We want to do something that has never been done
    before," he told Davari and a group of IBMers at their first meeting. "let's
    work together to change the world." The movie The Matrix had just come out,
    and Kutaragi relished itspremise of a world that is actually a giant
    computer simulation "Think about creating a crude version of that world," he
    said, "where millions of people can play in a realistically rendered virtual
    Tokyo or New Yourk City as if they are really living there." Creating that
    magical realm, Kutaragi told the team, would require a chip 1,000 times as
    powerful as the one in the PlayStation 2. The IBMers tried not to roll their
    eyes. They tended to like all that Matrix stuff, but when it came to
    1,000-fold chip boosts, they thought Kutaragi was out of his mind."

    "Davari tapped to lead the project was Kahle...He had designed IBM's first
    dual core chip, the Power4, and was just coming off a project that produced
    the IBM chip that powers Apple's G5 computers. "I don't want to do the
    normal stuff," he says with a shrug. Normal obviously want what Kutaragi had
    in mind. Still, one of Kahle's first moves was to talk Kutaragi down from
    that fantasy of a 1,000-fold power increase. Kahle figured a goal of a 100-
    fold boost from one chip generation to the next, having rarely if ever been
    achieved in the history of semiconductors, was ambitious enough."


    "Kutaragi was incredibly demanding and repeatedly sent Kahle back to the
    drawing board. At one point about a year into the project, Kutaragi made the
    team scrap the whole system structure and start over nearly from scratch.
    Another time Kutaragi decided he wanted two more cores. Why? "He just wanted
    to squeeze the engineering team," expains Masakazu Suzuoki, Sony's top Cell
    engineer, wringing his hands as if strangling a snake. "it hurt your head,"
    Kahle recalls. Making the pain worse: The team still had to deliver the chip
    on the original schedule."


    "To this day, few people even inside the allied companies know the details
    of Cell's development or the high hopes its backers hold. The Cell engineers
    are still not supposed to talk about much of their work to anyone outside
    the Austin facility. One day the air-conditioning broke down in the lab, and
    as the temperature soared, the engineers propped open the doors. Word got
    around. The company had to post guards to turn back rubbernecking colleagues
    eager for a glimpse of what was going on in there."




    "IBM, in paticular, says it's making headway in defense, medical imaging,
    internet switching, and industrial inspection equipment. The company
    suggests that the chip could be especially useful in crunching the mammoth
    amounts of data the military will collect as it develops so-called
    network-centric operations, where heavy armor is replaced by more perfect
    information--such as torrents of broadband video--that must be processed on
    the fly."
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    note that the Cell processor going into PlayStation3 is "only" about 35
    times more powerful (in floating point) than the Emotion Engine CPU in
    PlayStation2.

    even *if* Sony and IBM were to unleash the 8th SPE (only 7 SPEs are active
    in PS3's Cell CPU) and unleash the full clockspeed that Cell is capable of
    ( 4 to 5 GHz ) it would still only be, roughly, a 50x increase over PS2's
    Emotion Engine. therefore, that would still not even come close to the
    ambitious but fairly reasonable goal of a 100-fold increase over PS2's
    Emotion Engine CPU that IBM / Kahle suggested that Kutaragi and the
    Cell-team aim for.

    .....let alone Ken Kutaragi's original goal of *1000* times the performance
    of Emotion Engine, which was insanely unreasonable and just pure fantasy.

    oh well, poor Kutaragi ...he can try again with PS4 !
     
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    Re: IBM thought Ken Kutaragi was OUT OF HIS MIND wanting PS3-Cellto be 1,000 times PS2 Emotion Engine performance

    xenon360 wrote:

    > http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23852
    > [snip]


    Why did you post this to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips?
    (It is off-topic there.)

    Why did you post this to comp.sys.intel?
    (It is off-topic there.)

    Why did you cross-post to *nine* groups?
    (It seems your post is off-topic for most of them.)

    Why did you not set a follow-up to?

    Why do you show so much disregard for Usenet etiquette?

    I don't even know where to follow-up to, nothing seems appropriate.

    Let's say comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips because it is one I read...
     
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