It didn't take me long to find a bug in Leopard

Discussion in 'Apple' started by Michelle Steiner, Oct 27, 2007.

  1. 1. In mail.app, select text in a received message.
    2. Right click (or control-click) on the From address to display a
    contextual menu.
    3. The selected text is unselected.

    The text should remain selected, and did remain selected in Panther and
    Tiger.

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  2. Bob Campbell

    Bob Campbell Guest

    In article <>,
    Michelle Steiner <> wrote:

    > 1. In mail.app, select text in a received message.
    > 2. Right click (or control-click) on the From address to display a
    > contextual menu.
    > 3. The selected text is unselected.
    >
    > The text should remain selected, and did remain selected in Panther and
    > Tiger.


    You're not alone:

    http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8300945231/m/343002228
    831

    Lots of reports coming in of weird stuff. It's to be expected, of
    course. Everything this complex ships with bugs.

    Bob Campbell
     
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  3. Tim McNamara

    Tim McNamara Guest

    In article <>,
    Michelle Steiner <> wrote:

    > 1. In mail.app, select text in a received message.
    > 2. Right click (or control-click) on the From address to display a
    > contextual menu.
    > 3. The selected text is unselected.
    >
    > The text should remain selected, and did remain selected in Panther
    > and Tiger.


    Did they fix the horribly bad threading in Mail? For some reason Apple
    seems unable to manage a simple technology that's been mastered for a
    couple of decades or more in newsreaders and in other mail clients.
     
  4. In article <261020072221119493%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>,
    Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:

    > > 1. In mail.app, select text in a received message.
    > > 2. Right click (or control-click) on the From address to display a
    > > contextual menu.
    > > 3. The selected text is unselected.
    > >
    > > The text should remain selected, and did remain selected in Panther
    > > and Tiger.

    >
    > Confirmed. Bug ID# 5563143 filed.


    Thanks. You saved me the trouble of filing it.

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  5. In article <261020072243148831%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>,
    Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:

    > > Thanks. You saved me the trouble of filing it.

    >
    > File! Duplicate reports count!


    Oh, all right. It's done.

    BTW, the bug introduced in Tiger that prevents Apple-scripting the
    creation of a signature still exists. It's been there for two and a
    half years now.

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  6. M-M

    M-M Guest

    In article <>,
    Michelle Steiner <> wrote:

    > 1. In mail.app, select text in a received message.
    > 2. Right click (or control-click) on the From address to display a
    > contextual menu.
    > 3. The selected text is unselected.
    >
    > The text should remain selected, and did remain selected in Panther and
    > Tiger.



    Why should it remain selected? Maybe it was a bug before.

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  7. In article
    <>,
    M-M <> wrote:

    > > 1. In mail.app, select text in a received message.
    > > 2. Right click (or control-click) on the From address to display a
    > > contextual menu.
    > > 3. The selected text is unselected.
    > >
    > > The text should remain selected, and did remain selected in Panther and
    > > Tiger.

    >
    >
    > Why should it remain selected? Maybe it was a bug before.


    1. Because clicking on a menu without selecting anything from the menu
    should not change anything.

    2. Because one of the options in that menu is "reply to sender". In
    previous versions, choosing that would create the reply message with
    only the selected text in the original being quoted in the reply. Now
    it quotes the entire original message.

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  8. In article <271020070053412335%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>,
    Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:

    > > BTW, the bug introduced in Tiger that prevents Apple-scripting the
    > > creation of a signature still exists. It's been there for two and
    > > a half years now.

    >
    > File an update... I did that on several of my open bug reports that
    > weren't resolved in 10.5


    Curiously, that bug does not appear in the "My originated problems"
    section any more. Two other bugs, one reported in May 04, and one in
    Jan 05, are the only ones still left. I'll file a new bug report.
    *sigh*

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  9. In article <271020070053412335%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>,
    Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:

    > > BTW, the bug introduced in Tiger that prevents Apple-scripting the
    > > creation of a signature still exists. It's been there for two and
    > > a half years now.

    >
    > File an update... I did that on several of my open bug reports that
    > weren't resolved in 10.5


    I should have checked further; it's listed as a duplicate. I updated it.

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  10. M-M

    M-M Guest

    In article <>,
    Michelle Steiner <> wrote:

    > In article
    > <>,
    > M-M <> wrote:
    >
    > > > 1. In mail.app, select text in a received message.
    > > > 2. Right click (or control-click) on the From address to display a
    > > > contextual menu.
    > > > 3. The selected text is unselected.
    > > >
    > > > The text should remain selected, and did remain selected in Panther and
    > > > Tiger.

    > >
    > >
    > > Why should it remain selected? Maybe it was a bug before.

    >
    > 1. Because clicking on a menu without selecting anything from the menu
    > should not change anything.
    >
    > 2. Because one of the options in that menu is "reply to sender". In
    > previous versions, choosing that would create the reply message with
    > only the selected text in the original being quoted in the reply. Now
    > it quotes the entire original message.



    Re: your point #2 above:

    In Tiger's Mail.app if I do as you describe, the entire message gets
    quoted in the reply. The selected text gets ignored.


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  11. In article
    <>,
    M-M <> wrote:

    > > 2. Because one of the options in that menu is "reply to sender".
    > > In previous versions, choosing that would create the reply message
    > > with only the selected text in the original being quoted in the
    > > reply. Now it quotes the entire original message.

    >
    > Re: your point #2 above:
    >
    > In Tiger's Mail.app if I do as you describe, the entire message gets
    > quoted in the reply. The selected text gets ignored.


    I don't know why; when I did it, it happened exactly as I described.
    There was no difference between doing that and clicking on the Reply
    button in the toolbar, except for the addressee of the reply message.
    (I use this feature when I want to make a private reply to the sender of
    a message to an email list; clicking on the Reply button addresses the
    reply to the list address.)

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  12. Tim McNamara <> writes:

    > Did they fix the horribly bad threading in Mail? For some reason Apple
    > seems unable to manage a simple technology that's been mastered for a
    > couple of decades or more in newsreaders and in other mail clients.


    I suspect they will never fix it, because "real" threading could mean
    putting newly arrived messages into an (old) thread that's way up the
    list and many users would complain about vanishing messages. I've seen
    too many people writing mails to someone by selecting some old mail from
    them and hitting Reply -- having these mails then put into a months old
    thread is just asking for trouble.


    Jochem

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  13. Király

    Király Guest

    Michelle Steiner <> wrote:
    > 1. In mail.app, select text in a received message.
    > 2. Right click (or control-click) on the From address to display a
    > contextual menu.
    > 3. The selected text is unselected.
    >
    > The text should remain selected, and did remain selected in Panther and
    > Tiger.


    Not on my Mac running Tiger. The text is unselected just like you say it
    is with Leopard. Are you *sure* the way you remember it is how it really
    worked for you?

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  14. In article <vj7Vi.75185$%B2.8508@edtnps82>,
    (Király) wrote:

    > > 1. In mail.app, select text in a received message.
    > > 2. Right click (or control-click) on the From address to display a
    > > contextual menu.
    > > 3. The selected text is unselected.
    > >
    > > The text should remain selected, and did remain selected in Panther and
    > > Tiger.

    >
    > Not on my Mac running Tiger. The text is unselected just like you
    > say it is with Leopard. Are you *sure* the way you remember it is
    > how it really worked for you?


    Yes. I'll ask a friend to check it out on her computer (which still has
    Tiger).

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  15. In article <>,
    Michelle Steiner <> wrote:

    > > > 1. In mail.app, select text in a received message.
    > > > 2. Right click (or control-click) on the From address to display
    > > > a contextual menu.
    > > > 3. The selected text is unselected.
    > > >
    > > > The text should remain selected, and did remain selected in
    > > > Panther and Tiger.

    > >
    > > Not on my Mac running Tiger. The text is unselected just like you
    > > say it is with Leopard. Are you *sure* the way you remember it is
    > > how it really worked for you?

    >
    > Yes. I'll ask a friend to check it out on her computer (which still
    > has Tiger).


    She told me that it remains selected in Tiger.

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  16. Andy

    Andy Guest

    On 29/10/07 10:28 AM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
    > In article <>,
    > Michelle Steiner <> wrote:
    >
    >>>> 1. In mail.app, select text in a received message.
    >>>> 2. Right click (or control-click) on the From address to display
    >>>> a contextual menu.
    >>>> 3. The selected text is unselected.
    >>>>
    >>>> The text should remain selected, and did remain selected in
    >>>> Panther and Tiger.
    >>> Not on my Mac running Tiger. The text is unselected just like you
    >>> say it is with Leopard. Are you *sure* the way you remember it is
    >>> how it really worked for you?

    >> Yes. I'll ask a friend to check it out on her computer (which still
    >> has Tiger).

    >
    > She told me that it remains selected in Tiger.



    It stays selected on my machine running Tiger too.

    Andy.
     
  17. Király

    Király Guest

    Michelle Steiner <> wrote:
    > In article <>,
    > Michelle Steiner <> wrote:
    >
    > > > > 1. In mail.app, select text in a received message.
    > > > > 2. Right click (or control-click) on the From address to display
    > > > > a contextual menu.
    > > > > 3. The selected text is unselected.
    > > > >
    > > > > The text should remain selected, and did remain selected in
    > > > > Panther and Tiger.
    > > >
    > > > Not on my Mac running Tiger. The text is unselected just like you
    > > > say it is with Leopard. Are you *sure* the way you remember it is
    > > > how it really worked for you?

    > >
    > > Yes. I'll ask a friend to check it out on her computer (which still
    > > has Tiger).

    >
    > She told me that it remains selected in Tiger.
    >


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